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The 2016 Major League Baseball Player Chatter, News and Fantasy Thread...
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Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
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koz-manSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-21-08
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#2907Starting pitchers who are willing to sign short-term deals are doing quite well financially. Jeremy Hellickson will make $17.2 million with the Phillies in 2017.
Charlie Morton got a guaranteed $14 million over 2 years from the Astros after pitching 17 1/3 innings this season, and Atlanta invested $20.5 million in one-year deals for Bartolo Colon and R.A. Dickey.
We'll find out soon enough if the market is as kind to Rich Hill, Ivan Nova and starters seeking longer contracts.Comment -
BigSpoonSBR MVP
- 11-04-10
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#2908Rick Porcello wins the AL Cy Young, Max Scherzer wins the NL Cy Young.
Porcello would have been like my 4th choice behind Kluber, Verlander and Britton. No problem with Scherzer winning, Kershaw just missed too many starts.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
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#2909Max Scherzer of the Nationals and Rick Porcello of the Red Sox have won the Cy Young Awards in their respective leagues, the Baseball Writers Association of America announced tonight.
That’s the second time the 32-year-old has taken home the hardware, though his prior award came in the American League (in 2013, with the Tigers). Scherzer led the N.L. with 228 1/3 innings, twenty wins, and a 0.968 WHIP. He ended the year with 2.96 ERA with 11.2 K/9 against 2.2 BB/9.
That showing was good enough to beat out Cubs hurlers Jon Lester and Kyle Hendricks — who finished second and third, respectively. Scherzer ended up with 25 of the 30 first-place votes, reflecting a strong consensus, but in truth it was a widespread field full of worthwhile contenders. That includes the absurdly dominant Clayton Kershaw, who probably would have run away with the award had he not missed a dozen starts due to injury, and the dearly departed Jose Fernandez, who garnered down-ballot consideration after a dominant season that ended in tragedy.
Porcello’s win came over fellow finalists Justin Verlander of the Tigers and Corey Kluber of the Indians. All were worthy contenders in a year in which nobody put up a truly dominant year. The best A.L. pitchers on a rate basis was reliever Zach Britton, who managed a fourth-place finish despite the innings limitations inherent to his job.
The vote came with its share of controversy. Verlander received 14 of the 30 available first-place votes, but narrowly missed the award when he was left off of two ballots altogether. The 33-year-old threw 227 2/3 innings of 3.04 ERA ball, with 10.0 K/9 against 2.3 BB/9, whereas Porcello racked up 223 frames of 3.15 ERA pitching on the back of 7.6 K/9 and 1.3 BB/9. The difference, perhaps, was that the ultimate victor managed a sparkling 22-4 win-loss record, whereas Verlander carried a less notable 16-and-9 mark.Comment -
CrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-11
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#2910Fair enough, as long as KB gets MVP.Comment -
El NinoSBR Posting Legend
- 05-03-12
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#2911Kate Upton shot off yesterday more than Verlander did in those fappening pics.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
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#2914Mike Trout has won the AL MVP award, the Baseball Writers' Association of America announced Thursday, the second time the Los Angeles Angels outfielder has won the award in his six-year career.
The Chicago Cubs' Kris Bryant has been named National League MVP.
The 24-year-old Bryant hit .292 with 39 home runs and 102 RBI in his second year in the majors and helped the Cubs win their first World Series since 1908. He becomes just the sixth player to win rookie of the year and MVP in the same season or consecutive seasons.
Bryant received 29 first-place votes, and Washington second baseman Daniel Murphy was the runner-up.
The 25-year-old Trout batted .315 with 29 home runs, 100 RBI and 30 steals this season, leading the league in runs (123), OBP (.441) and WAR (10.6).
Trout, who is the first MVP from a team that missed the playoffs since Alex Rodriguez (Texas Rangers) in 2003, received 19 of 30 first-place votes.
Boston Red Sox's Mookie Betts finished second in the voting. Houston Astros' Jose Altuve was third.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39995
#2915Kris Bryant:
2013 = college player of the year
2014 = minor league player of the year
2015 = rookie of the year
2016 = MVP (and World Series champion)
What's left at 24? Unreal.Comment -
mr. leisureSBR Posting Legend
- 01-29-08
- 17507
#2916Congrats to Trout and Bryant .Comment -
BigSpoonSBR MVP
- 11-04-10
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#2917Astros acquire C Brian McCann for a pair of minor league pitchers from the Yankees. They also signed free agent OF Josh Reddick for 4 years-$52M. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...w-york-yankeesComment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15579
#2918There’s an expectation among rival executives that the Rays will trade one of either Drew Smyly or Chris Archer this winter, writes ESPN’s Buster Olney in his latest blog (Insider subscription required and recommended). Other teams are also expecting that Tampa Bay will trade closer Alex Colome, who moved into the ninth inning following an injury to Brad Boxberger and delivered a brilliant breakout season in the Rays’ bullpen, though we haven’t really heard any specific clubs tied to him. Smyly is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $6.9MM this winter in his latest trip through the arbitration process, while Colome is not yet eligible for arbitration (though he’s building a nice case for himself when he does reach that point). Because Colome hasn’t reached arbitration and comes with an additional four years of club control, the Rays should be able to ask for a sizable haul. Of course, those same factors also mean that Tampa Bay doesn’t need to feel an urgency to move Colome, as he’d earn scarcely over the league minimum in 2017. The 27-year-old posted a pristine 1.91 ERA and averaged 11.3 K/9 against 2.4 BB/9 to go along with a 47.1 percent ground-ball rate in 56 2/3 innings.
A bit more on some other possible trade and free agent scenarios around the league…
- The Athletics are “actively listening to offers” for right-hander Sonny Gray, per Olney. Gray’s name has been a mainstay in trade rumors over the past year and a half, but with a $3.7MM salary projection for next season and Oakland looks more likely to move veteran pieces, there’s a better chance this winter that he’s moved than there has been in previous trade seasons. Of course, teams may be wary of Gray’s 5.69 ERA and time on the disabled list this past season, and the A’s aren’t likely to consider selling Gray at a discounted price, so agreeing on price with interested teams certainly presents some hurdles. Gray is still just 27 and is controlled for another three seasons.
- With Brian McCann shipped out today, the Yankees appear to be turning their attention to additions to the roster. Pitching is at the top of the list, with Rich Hill a possible target, Olney tweets. And he adds that slugger Carlos Beltran remains a target. As James Wagner of the New York Times reports (Twitter links), GM Brian Cashman says that the organization is looking to add bats. While it isn’t committed to spending big, he says he expects to continue discussions with top-of-the-market hitter Yoenis Cespedes. “I’m sure we’ll talk again,” said Cashman of his contact with Cespedes’s reps. “Now that we have more flexibility, it gives us more choices.”
- Though the Braves have been connected to several top young starters, their focus is on trying to work a deal with the White Sox for Chris Sale, according to David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. It’s still unclear just how hard Atlanta will push to pry him loose, and certainly Chicago isn’t in a position where it needs to move its affordable, excellent, and still-youthful ace. And as O’Brien notes, the Braves have signaled previously that they aren’t interested in emptying their farm to move toward contention — though there may be an added willingness to give up some premium assets in this case, as would certainly be necessary to get something done.
- The Blue Jays are looking into infielder/outfielder Sean Rodriguez, Shi Davidi of Sportsnet.ca reports. It seems that Toronto would like to add a right-handed-hitting piece with some defensive versatility, with Rodriguez joining Steve Pearce as plausible targets. The idea would be to utilize such a player as a platoon complement to first baseman Justin Smoak (a switch-hitter who struggles against lefties) and in the corner outfield.
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BarkingToadSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-31-08
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#2919Astros acquire C Brian McCann for a pair of minor league pitchers from the Yankees. They also signed free agent OF Josh Reddick for 4 years-$52M. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...w-york-yankeesComment -
Otters27BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-14-07
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#2920Two MVPS well deserved. is trout on juice and Bryant is not?Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63167
#2922The moves are beginning to happen. Love it!Comment -
Otters27BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-14-07
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#2924Starting pitchers who are willing to sign short-term deals are doing quite well financially. Jeremy Hellickson will make $17.2 million with the Phillies in 2017.
Charlie Morton got a guaranteed $14 million over 2 years from the Astros after pitching 17 1/3 innings this season, and Atlanta invested $20.5 million in one-year deals for Bartolo Colon and R.A. Dickey.
We'll find out soon enough if the market is as kind to Rich Hill, Ivan Nova and starters seeking longer contracts.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15579
#2925Quite a bit of competition is lining up for Carlos Beltran, who is now being pursued by both the Red Sox and Yankees, as Evan Drellich of the Boston Herald writes. The Blue Jays, too, have reached out, and the Astros seemingly remain a possibility, providing yet more evidence that multiple organizations currently have more interest in a limited commitment to Beltran than they do a lengthier pact with Edwin Encarnacion. While Toronto’s addition of Kendrys Morales has started the movement on sluggers, there are a wide variety still available, and it promises to remain an area of intrigue for much of the offseason.
A few more late-night notes from around the league…
- Pirates skipper Clint Hurdle certainly didn’t sound like he’s convinced center fielder Andrew McCutchen will remain with the organization when the 2017 season begins, as Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports. “I’ll take it one day at a time,” said Hurdle when asked about the possibility of a McCutchen trade. “I think any general manager that’s in a market similar to the one we’re in has to explore the possibility of (trading) players who have one or two years left on their contracts. You have to see what value is there to keep or to move.” While McCutchen is hopeful of spending his career in Pittsburgh, Biertempfel writes that the Pirates haven’t approached him about extending his current six-year, $51.5MM contract, which has one more guaranteed year (2017) and an affordable club option (2018).
- The Brewers are getting trade inquiries on right-hander Junior Guerra, reports Jon Morosi of the MLB Network (via Twitter). That Milwaukee would receive interest isn’t necessarily a shock, given Guerra’s controllable nature and the strong debut season he had in Milwaukee. It’ll be interesting to see if further reports emerge about GM David Stearns seriously entertaining offers on Guerra, whose 2016 success was certainly unique in nature. This past year marked Guerra’s rookie season, but unlike most first-year success stories, Guerra is a 31-year-old (32 in January) that was plucked off waivers by Stearns last offseason and enjoyed a terrific but somewhat out-of-the-blue debut. The former Braves, Mets and White Sox farmhand made 20 starts for Milwaukee and quietly pitched to a 2.81 ERA with 7.4 K/9, 3.2 BB/9 and a 45.3 percent ground-ball rate while averaging a tick over 93 mph on his fastball. Guerra still holds tremendous appeal for the the 2017 season, but it seems likely that the Brewers will at least listen to offers on him, as Milwaukee may not contend until 2018 or even 2019, at which point Guerra will be in his age-33 or age-34 season.
- First baseman Mitch Moreland is a free agent for the first time in his career, but he said in an appearance on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM yesterday (Twitter link) that if things go his way, he’d be back with the Rangers in 2017 and beyond. “Texas would be my first choice,” said the 31-year-old. “I love it there.” Whether the Rangers reciprocate that interest isn’t yet known, but the team does have a need at first base and DH with Moreland hitting the open market and Prince Fielder’s sudden retirement. Texas does have the option of letting the much-ballyhooed Joey Gallo take some of those at-bats in 2017, though there have been indications that the organization feels he’d benefit from opening next year in the minors. Texas has presently been focused on other matters and is reportedly on the verge of completing a one-year deal with righty Andrew Cashner. Moreland, meanwhile, turned in another 20-homer season in 2016 but saw his OBP dip as well. Overall, he hit .233/.298/.422 with 22 big flies in 503 trips to the plate.
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Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63167
#2926wonder how fat Prince Fielder will be in a yearComment -
JAKEPEAVY21BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-11-11
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#2929that Reddick signing was awful for HoustonComment -
CrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-11
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#2930Free agent market just not very exciting this year.Comment -
BigSpoonSBR MVP
- 11-04-10
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#2932On his Wiki page it says he only lasted 3 months before giving it up.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...#Personal_life
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mr. leisureSBR Posting Legend
- 01-29-08
- 17507
#2933On his Wiki page it says he only lasted 3 months before giving it up.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...#Personal_life
That sounds about right .Comment -
CrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-11
- 5777
#2934Prince doesn't fool me, a meat eater for sure.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15579
#2935The Yankees have received trade inquiries about both third baseman Chase Headley and left fielder Brett Gardner, GM Brian Cashman told reporters (including MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch). “They’re still here and they’re here for a reason, but we’ll see,” Cashman said. “We have our interest in getting younger and stronger and more flexible, and improve our present and our future. If all that provides that opportunity, then I think I’ll be talking to our owner and see if he’ll consider it.”
The switch-hitting Headley hit .253/.331/.385 with 14 homers over 529 PA last season, as he sandwiched four months of pretty good hitting between a dreadful April and a mediocre September. While he posted below-average numbers at the plate (92 wRC+) for the second consecutive year, Headley rebounded from a poor defensive year in 2015 to deliver his usual strong performance at the hot corner in 2016, with +7 Defensive Runs Runs Saved and 8.6 UZR/150.
Powered by his defense and a tremendous year on the basepaths (3.9 on Fangraphs’ Baserunning metric), Headley was worth 2.6 fWAR in 2016, which made him more than worth his $13MM salary. The veteran will earn $13MM in each of the next two seasons and turns 33 in May, however, so it makes sense that New York is at least open to listening to offers for Headley’s services as part of the club’s continuing effort to get both younger and cheaper. Since the Yankees don’t have another obvious third base option immediately ready to step in, trading Headley could be a precursor to another move to adding a third baseman.
Gardner is also entering his age-33 season, and is guaranteed $25MM over the next two seasons (counting the $2MM buyout of his $12.5MM club option for 2019). The veteran outfielder hit .261/.351/.362 with seven home runs over 634 PA and ended up with a pretty similar season to Headley — 2.4 fWAR built on excellent defense and baserunning moreso than hitting. Aside from his injury-shortened 2012, Gardner has produced at least 2.3 fWAR in every season since 2009, so it’s no surprise that teams looking for an outfield upgrade have been in touch with Cashman.
If Gardner is dealt, the Yankees could replace him in a big way in left field with Yoenis Cespedes. Cashman confirmed that he had spoken to Cespedes’ representatives and that he expects more talks to take place now that the Yankees have freed up some payroll by dealing Brian McCann.
Signing the 31-year-old Cespedes (MLBTR’s top-rated free agent on the market) would obviously cost the Yankees over $100MM and commit them to a deal well into Cespedes’ mid-30’s, which may not jibe with the team’s overall desire to get younger. Cespedes is quite a bit younger and probably more likely to remain productive in 2017 than veterans like Carlos Beltran or Jose Bautista, though those older players would also be available on much shorter contracts. Cespedes in particular would be able to replace Gardner’s defense as well, while Beltran or Bautista have defensive limitations.
“I’m going to be open-minded to what’s available,” Cashman said. “We now will pursue bats, but we’ll see if it takes us anywhere. It could be a DH-only situation; obviously the preference always is going to be someone that can provide positional ability so you have more flexibility on your roster. We’ll see where it takes us.”
The general manager acknowledged interest in reunions with Beltran and Aroldis Chapman, both dealt by the Yankees in the leadup to last year’s trade deadline.
Hoch also reports that “the Yankees have started the information-gathering process” in regards to both Rich Hill and Jason Hammel. Hill was already known to be a potential New York target this winter, while this is the first time Hammel has been linked to the Yankees (or any team) since the Cubs surprisingly declined his option after the World Series. The 34-year-old Hammel is a reliable and productive innings-eater who would be a good fit in the Yankees rotation, though his price tag could be driven up since free agent pitching is so scarce this offseason.Comment -
koz-manSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-21-08
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#2936The St. Louis Cardinals have agreed to terms with left-handed reliever Brett Cecil on a 4-year $30.5 million dollar deal confirmed by a club source and first reported by Yahoo.com.
The Cardinals were desperate to replace Zach Duke who underwent Tommy John surgery and will miss all of next year as a left-handed reliever in their pen. However, giving a 4th year with an AVG of of over 7.6m is a market changer. I had predicted 3yrs at $6m per year.
This signing will have ramifications for the rest of the reliever market.
Lefty Bull-Pen guys are Getting Paid!!!!Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63167
#2937Good deal for CecilComment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15579
#2939The Mariners asked the Pirates about center fielder Andrew McCutchen earlier this offseason, MLB Network’s Jon Morosi reports (Twitter link), though talks between the two sides “did not advance.” Pirates general manager Neal Huntington said after the GM Meetings that he had been receiving calls from multiple teams about McCutchen’s services, and given Seattle’s rather unsettled outfield situation, it isn’t surprising that the Mariners checked in on the former NL MVP. A couple of weeks ago, Ken Rosenthal reported that the Nationals discussed a McCutchen deal with Pittsburgh over the summer.
On most days, the Mariners will use three left-handed hitters (Seth Smith, Leonys Martin and Ben Gamel) as their starting outfield, with right-handed bats Danny Valencia, Guillermo Heredia or regular DH Nelson Cruz spelling Smith against left-handed pitching. Mariners GM Jerry Dipoto has said that the club intends for Gamel to play every day, though given Gamel’s lack of experience, one would think the M’s would also want some right-handed protection for Gamel against tough southpaws. Then again, with Valencia also likely to see time at first base spelling Dan Vogelbach against lefty pitching, there may not be enough right-handed outfield bats to go around.
Adding another right-handed hitter (like McCutchen) would go a lot way towards stabilizing the many moving parts of this platoon situation. McCutchen would have immediately become the everyday option in left or right field, as given how the former Gold Glover’s defense has heavily declined over the last three years, it would’ve made little sense for him to displace Martin in center.
The big question facing the M’s or any other team interested in McCutchen, of course, is whether his rough 2016 season was the start of a decline or just an aberration. McCutchen hit just .256/.336/.430 over 675 PA for the Bucs last season, easily the worst numbers of his eight-year career. Between his poor hitting, fielding and even a below-average baserunning totals, McCutchen posted just 0.7 fWAR last year, a stunning dropoff for a player who amassed 33.3 fWAR over the previous five seasons.
McCutchen is owed $14MM in 2017 and the Pirates have a $14.5MM club option on the outfielder for 2018 (with a $1MM buyout). McCutchen’s contract has long been seen as one of baseball’s great bargains, though if the Pirates no longer know what kind of production their longtime star will deliver from now on, the deal may now be considered too risky for a small-market team like Pittsburgh. With top prospect Austin Meadows waiting in the wings, one has to wonder if we’ve seen the last of McCutchen in Bucs black-and-gold, as teams with more financial breathing room can afford to see if McCutchen can return to form.Comment -
CrossSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-15-11
- 5777
#2940I feel like McCutcheon due for a bounce back year.Comment
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