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  • homie1975
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    • 12-24-13
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    #71
    right now i would take the HEAT or the PACERS to win the East reg season you can have all other teams and i am confident in my two

    Cavs will be very good in year 2 with lebron.

    Bulls hopes rest entirely on Rose's glass knees. without him at 90% or more, they are TOAST

    Wizards and Raptors will be good

    but again, give me HEAT and PACERS to win the reg season and you can have the rest
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    • Cuse0323
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      #72
      Tossup in the East but I wouldn't be confident in the Pacers or Heat. The Pacers fell apart and aren't going anywhere but down.
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      • zsr
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        #73
        They have NOTHING on the wing. Butler should be a bench player, lets be real here, as JVG has stated loudly many times. Dunleavy isn't a starting 3. Kirk as the lead backup 1 and 2? He hasn't even been league average in 2 years. 4 out of 5 best players are bigs. Really poor management per usual for the Bulls. Thibs will find a way and they'll probably get rolled again in round 2 or the ECF. Ariza/Deng/Lance/Parsons/Pierce all would have been clear better fits.
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        • lagoonlife
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          #74
          Originally posted by LordVodka
          Magic is nuts. Bulls can be the team to beat if Rose is healthy. Cavs will take a while to get chemistry going. LeBron will have to adjust to having to score 50 pts a game again.
          didnt get much help in miami either towards the end
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          • zsr
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            #75
            Originally posted by lagoonlife
            didnt get much help in miami either towards the end
            Yep. These last 2 years he had nobody, Bosh showed up at random times and Wade was a corpse. Cavs should get the east easily, I just don't think they stand a chance in the finals.
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            • d2bets
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              #76
              Originally posted by zsr
              They have NOTHING on the wing. Butler should be a bench player, lets be real here, as JVG has stated loudly many times. Dunleavy isn't a starting 3. Kirk as the lead backup 1 and 2? He hasn't even been league average in 2 years. 4 out of 5 best players are bigs. Really poor management per usual for the Bulls. Thibs will find a way and they'll probably get rolled again in round 2 or the ECF. Ariza/Deng/Lance/Parsons/Pierce all would have been clear better fits.
              Butler is better than all of those guys, but Dudleavy is a miss. I think Bulls might still have a trade left to get another wing. Also, Tony Snell seems to have really progressed and McDermott could step in and bring a lot.
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              • zsr
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                #77
                Originally posted by d2bets
                Butler is better than all of those guys, but Dudleavy is a miss. I think Bulls might still have a trade left to get another wing. Also, Tony Snell seems to have really progressed and McDermott could step in and bring a lot.
                Butler is better than Luol but at this point the other guys are all superior to him, and that doesn't really matter because they didnt need to trade him to sign any of them. Butler with Ariza/Lance/Parsons/Pierce or even with Deng back would be really, really solid on the wing and give them a legitimate title chance. Wasting that space on 2 backup bigs and a below league average player in Kirk is awful. Just really poor roster configuration.

                I hope they have something in the works on the wing. If McDermott can score he would be great for this team, but there's no way to no that yet. The east is weak so if Rose plays a full season they have a punchers chance though.
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                • meader99
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by zsr
                  Butler is better than Luol but at this point the other guys are all superior to him, and that doesn't really matter because they didnt need to trade him to sign any of them. Butler with Ariza/Lance/Parsons/Pierce or even with Deng back would be really, really solid on the wing and give them a legitimate title chance. Wasting that space on 2 backup bigs and a below league average player in Kirk is awful. Just really poor roster configuration.

                  I hope they have something in the works on the wing. If McDermott can score he would be great for this team, but there's no way to no that yet. The east is weak so if Rose plays a full season they have a punchers chance though.
                  They have much more than a punchers chance. They finished 4th last year, and this year they add Rose, Gasol, McDermott, and Mirotic. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls finish in the 1 spot in the East.
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                  • zsr
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by meader99
                    They have much more than a punchers chance. They finished 4th last year, and this year they add Rose, Gasol, McDermott, and Mirotic. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls finish in the 1 spot in the East.
                    4 of their best 5 players are bigs. Not enough minutes to go around, and nothing on the wing. McDermott is a wild card and Thibs hates playing rookies.

                    But yeah, by punchers chance I mean they'll probably be a 2 or 3 seed and lose to the Cavs in the ECF. I hope they win the title but with this roster it's hard to see. They literally have nothing on the wing.
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                    • meader99
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by zsr
                      4 of their best 5 players are bigs. Not enough minutes to go around, and nothing on the wing. McDermott is a wild card and Thibs hates playing rookies.

                      But yeah, by punchers chance I mean they'll probably be a 2 or 3 seed and lose to the Cavs in the ECF. I hope they win the title but with this roster it's hard to see. They literally have nothing on the wing.
                      Who are the 4 bigs? I see Gasol, Noah and Taj..... I think you are going to see some big improvements with Tony Snell. Also, just Rose being on the court will make things easier for guys like Butler and Snell.
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                      • zsr
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                        #81
                        Originally posted by meader99
                        Who are the 4 bigs? I see Gasol, Noah and Taj..... I think you are going to see some big improvements with Tony Snell. Also, just Rose being on the court will make things easier for guys like Butler and Snell.
                        Mirotic is a 4.

                        Yeah, if Butlers shot improves that will help a ton. He'll definitely get more open looks.
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                        • meader99
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                          #82
                          Originally posted by zsr
                          Mirotic is a 4.

                          Yeah, if Butlers shot improves that will help a ton. He'll definitely get more open looks.
                          Yes, Mirotic is a stretch 4, and I could see him playing some 3 on this team. So McDermott is a wild card, but Mirotic, who also hasn't played in the league, is automatically the 5th best player on the Bulls?
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                          • TwoWays
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                            #83
                            Every year it seems people talk up the bulls. Bulls, lol.
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                            • jsmithj88
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                              #84
                              its pretty simple, rose is their only superstar,
                              we dont even know if hes the same dude
                              bulls need another star
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                              • d2bets
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                                #85
                                Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                its pretty simple, rose is their only superstar,
                                we dont even know if hes the same dude
                                bulls need another star
                                Noah was first team all-nba. Did the Spurs have a bunch of stars?
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                                • Cuse0323
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                                  • jsmithj88
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    Noah was first team all-nba. Did the Spurs have a bunch of stars?
                                    they have 3, the same 3 for the last 10 years
                                    and they added leonard along the way
                                    if u want to say noah is a star, i cant argue against it too much
                                    noah is just too limited offensively
                                    hes a role player, a very good one
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                                    • Cuse0323
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      Noah was first team all-nba. Did the Spurs have a bunch of stars?


                                      The greatest PF of all-time along with arguably the best PG the past few years in the league aren't stars? Throw in Manu and Kawhi, is four not enough?

                                      Bulls fans continue to bring the hilarity.

                                      Noah First team NBA by default. Harden was also 1st team

                                      Can't make this stuff up, the delusion is real from Bulls fan this off-season.
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                                      • Grits n' Gravy
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                                        #89
                                        Noah is a great effort guy but a star should be able to score from every way possible when needed and he isn't that guy.
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Cuse0323


                                          The greatest PF of all-time along with arguably the best PG the past few years in the league aren't stars? Throw in Manu and Kawhi, is four not enough?

                                          Bulls fans continue to bring the hilarity.

                                          Noah First team NBA by default. Harden was also 1st team

                                          Can't make this stuff up, the delusion is real from Bulls fan this off-season.
                                          All-time doesn't mean anything. I love Duncan, he is great, but he not a star right now, which is fine. Spurs just have a really deep collection of really good players and that got it done over 3 stars. Basketball is a team sport. Having players with a variety of talents that they each do well is the best way to win.
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                                          • d2bets
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                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                            Noah is a great effort guy but a star should be able to score from every way possible when needed and he isn't that guy.
                                            I'd rather have a bunch of guys that are the best at what they do. I'd say Dennis Rodman was a star, helped his team with shitloads of games, but by your definition he sucked.
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                                            • BigSpoon
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                                              #92
                                              Wonder who picks up Boozer now that the Bulls used the amnesty clause on him. He's not great but if a team picks him up for 1-3 million, that is a bargain.
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                Wonder who picks up Boozer now that the Bulls used the amnesty clause on him. He's not great but if a team picks him up for 1-3 million, that is a bargain.
                                                To the right team in the right situation, yeah. I think the winning bid will be a bit more than that. Probably around $4 million, give or take. Especially since it's only a 1 year situation. Hard to sign anyone for 1 year contracts these days. Lot of value there.
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                                                • jsmithj88
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  To the right team in the right situation, yeah. I think the winning bid will be a bit more than that. Probably around $4 million, give or take. Especially since it's only a 1 year situation. Hard to sign anyone for 1 year contracts these days. Lot of value there.
                                                  lakers have tons of cash, haha
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                    lakers have tons of cash, haha
                                                    Yeah, they could use a warm body.
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                                                    • I/O
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      I'd rather have a bunch of guys that are the best at what they do. I'd say Dennis Rodman was a star, helped his team with shitloads of games, but by your definition he sucked.
                                                      Please tell us what exactly Noah does that's the "best" in the league?
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by I/O
                                                        Please tell us what exactly Noah does that's the "best" in the league?
                                                        Noah won Defensive Player of the Year, so there's that. Last I checked defense is approximately 50% of the game.

                                                        And, he's #1 (by a wide margin) in assists per game among centers (or any big men) and #1 in assist/turnover ratio. So, ummm, there's that too.
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                                                        • Wrigley
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                                                          #98
                                                          Noah is also important in the locker room great guy to be around
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                                                          • I/O
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                                            Noah won Defensive Player of the Year, so there's that. Last I checked defense is approximately 50% of the game.

                                                            And, he's #1 (by a wide margin) in assists per game among centers (or any big men) and #1 in assist/turnover ratio. So, ummm, there's that too.
                                                            really

                                                            So on any other team, with any other coach, in any other system, he would be THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE??
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                                                            • meader99
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                                                              #100
                                                              And he's the guy that gets the best weed......
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                                                              • I/O
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Wrigley
                                                                Noah is also important in the locker room great guy to be around
                                                                recently Wrigley

                                                                He was a complete selfish asshole the first half of his career absolutely hated by his team mates. Glad he decided to grow up and all but a leopard doesn't change his spots. Or his stupid hair.
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                                                                • I/O
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                                  Every year it seems loser homers talk up the bulls. Bulls, lol.
                                                                  fyp
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                                                                  • I/O
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                    Noah is a great effort guy but a star should be able to score from every way possible when needed and he isn't that guy.
                                                                    You mean to say Noah, after the monster college career, after years in the NBA, still hasn't developed a go to shot? Like all the higher end inside NBA players do as their career progresses?
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                                                                    • I/O
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                      Noah is a great effort guy but a star should be able to score from every way possible when needed and he isn't that guy.
                                                                      You mean to say Noah couldn't score vs a shit Washington Wizards team in the playoffs?

                                                                      Is that cuz they had an inside game?

                                                                      And he couldn't stop theirs?
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                                                                      • jsmithj88
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Would u pay someone like Noah 15 milli
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