Pitt/Kentucky

KurtNor · 01-07-11, 06:57 PM

I can't understand it.

chaseman · 01-07-11, 07:03 PM

Kentucky plays no defense

stefan084 · 01-07-11, 07:33 PM

yeah both my plays are going the wrong way ----A&M from +2 to plus +3, Kentucky +3 to +4. I guess that would seem good for me but I get psyched out when the line goes the other way

spongerat · 01-07-11, 07:51 PM

so what, miami went from -3 to +2.5 a couple days ago. People read into line movement too much sometimes

stefan084 · 01-07-11, 09:07 PM

yeah i think i probably do

Mr Handicapable · 01-07-11, 09:21 PM

Who's coaching Pitt now? Whether or not the interim coach has his $hit together might determine how hard Pitt plays? Hairlip got fired & the new hire beat his old lady and got fired too?

steve18 · 01-07-11, 09:22 PM

Kentucky QB is out for the bowl game guys.

ND25 · 01-07-11, 09:33 PM

Kentucky QB started half the season last year because Hartline got benched.

Mr Handicapable · 01-07-11, 10:20 PM

Kentucky QB is a kid named Morgan Newton (6'4 & 215 lbs) He's a run/pass threat from Indianapolis...player of the year in Indiana HS football 2008! Played 7 games for Kentucky last year with 6 TDs/3 picks...ran for 2 TDs. Kentucky went 5-2 in his 7 games! I'm from Indy and he was so good in high school that I can't believe he never beat out Hartline...who isn't that good imo! Pitt kids say they want to win for Wannstedt but recruits are de-committing with 2 fired coaches in the last few weeks? Looks like a bad situation! I like Kentucky ML +155....line is dropping to 3.5....always get an extra half with a dog on Bodog!

Did some more homework on Newton from 2009!
Beat Auburn & Georgia on the road...threw 3 TDs against Georgia
I think he can handle a crap team from the Big East!!

JDUB07 · 01-07-11, 10:24 PM

I think Lewis and the rest of Pitt are going to kill it on the ground and rush for a ton of yards.

ukbro00 · 01-07-11, 11:26 PM

The reason why Pitt is favored is because Hartline is out, but that doesn't really hamper UK's chances, so pound Kentucky.

Big Dave's Picks · 01-07-11, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by JDUB07

I think Lewis and the rest of Pitt are going to kill it on the ground and rush for a ton of yards.

Becareful, the hire of Minter as assistant de coor might ofset that. JOKER must win this game. Newton will play well and JOKER will set up a game plan for UK that Pitt has not seen all year long. Morgan Newton has the ability to control the offense better than Hartline and create problems for the Pitt defense. I will not compare UK's Newton to Auburn's Newton. but he did beat Auburn last year and so did Cobb. Pound UK guys Pitt is in Turmoil. Big Dave

Seattle Slew · 01-08-11, 12:27 AM

Like Pitt to win, but won't trust them -4. Will play ML.

Mac4Lyfe · 01-08-11, 12:48 AM

I loved UK before Wanny left Pitt. Wanny is such a poor coach, it was a sure UK bet for me. Now, who the hell knows.

KGambler · 01-08-11, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by ND25

Can someone please explain to me why pitt is favored by 4 points in this game?? A Big East school that won 7 games??

Is Kentucky supposed to be good? I have Pitt as the better team.

I grabbed this at Pitt -3 -105 and ML -155. Tomorrow I will probably bet some on Kentucky since the line has moved. Hopefully it will move to 4.5 tomorrow. At 4.5 I (normally) wouldn't touch either team, so I would definitely bet Kentucky as a hedge there.

john2153 · 01-08-11, 12:58 AM

Big East 3-2 in bowl games. SEC East hasn't shown up so far other than Florida...

jbhomerun · 01-08-11, 01:03 AM

Pitt is the better team. Lewis and graham will run all day.

KGambler · 01-08-11, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by john2153

Big East 3-2 in bowl games. SEC East hasn't shown up so far other than Florida...

Yeah, I wouldn't just dismiss Pitt because they are in the Big East. OK, the Big East was terrible this year. But Pitt is a solid team. They are not world beaters but neither are Kentucky.

And Pitt didn't pad their OOC schedule with patsies like W Kentucky, Akron, and Charleston Southern

. So Kentucky plays in the SEC, big deal, they went 2-6 in the conference. How much credit do we have to give them for beating Vanderbilt?

Why denigrate a 7-5 Big East team that actually played a tougher schedule overall than a 6-6 SEC team? Some people just seem to auto-bet for or against certain conferences. I don't get it. Pitt's out of conference schedule included games at Utah, at Notre Dame, against Miami FL... You won't see them playing Charleston Southern.

KGambler · 01-08-11, 01:13 AM

Charleston Southern beat 3 teams this year... North Greenville, Mars Hill and Presbyterian. I think I have heard of Presbyterian before, but not sure.

Teams like VMI and Stony Brook took them to the woodshed.

They travelled to Hawaii and Kentucky and lost 66-7 and 49-21 (Kentucky went easy on them for sure). I will never understand why the NCAA allows these games to be scheduled. Oh that's right, they only care about money and nothing else.

Cuse0323 · 01-08-11, 01:14 AM

I'm usually on the side of the Big East, but I can't trust Pitt here. They have a great running game, but they don't seem to execute as well as they should. Their QB hasn't been great lately, though they don't have wannstache anymore so that helps. Gotta think about this one.

KGambler · 01-08-11, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Mr Handicapable

Kentucky QB is a kid named Morgan Newton (6'4 & 215 lbs) He's a run/pass threat from Indianapolis...player of the year in Indiana HS football 2008! Played 7 games for Kentucky last year with 6 TDs/3 picks...ran for 2 TDs. Kentucky went 5-2 in his 7 games! I'm from Indy and he was so good in high school that I can't believe he never beat out Hartline...who isn't that good imo! Pitt kids say they want to win for Wannstedt but recruits are de-committing with 2 fired coaches in the last few weeks? Looks like a bad situation! I like Kentucky ML +155....line is dropping to 3.5....always get an extra half with a dog on Bodog!

Did some more homework on Newton from 2009!
Beat Auburn & Georgia on the road...threw 3 TDs against Georgia
I think he can handle a crap team from the Big East!!

I don't know, they didn't let him throw much. He was on a pretty short leash. He averaged 88 yards passing per game.

I think you might be hyping him a little too much. He's not even going to get every snap and he'll probably be on a short leash once again.

KGambler · 01-08-11, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

I'm usually on the side of the Big East, but I can't trust Pitt here. They have a great running game, but they don't seem to execute as well as they should.

Yeah, definitely an underachieving team... This could be a frustrating sweat

Mr Handicapable · 01-08-11, 02:13 AM

Kentucky beat S. Carolina & was tied w/Auburn 4Q! They're also going to have 80% of whatever crowd there is! I just don't see Pitt being fired up w/the turmoil in their program....then again I thought Baylor would be fired up to play in Texas? 3 units for me on Kentucky +155

kings12 · 01-08-11, 04:10 AM

I don't trust Kentucky's QB so I'm leaning Pitt

m4rka · 01-08-11, 05:59 AM

pitt 1st half for me

ND25 · 01-08-11, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by KGambler

Is Kentucky supposed to be good? I have Pitt as the better team.

I grabbed this at Pitt -3 -105 and ML -155. Tomorrow I will probably bet some on Kentucky since the line has moved. Hopefully it will move to 4.5 tomorrow. At 4.5 I (normally) wouldn't touch either team, so I would definitely bet Kentucky as a hedge there.

Kent lost on a last second fg to Auburn.

thebestthereis · 01-08-11, 08:31 AM

pitt was suppose to contend for the big east title and a bcs bowl bid, now they are in the compass bowl cause they are lost. they probably think the coach for kentucky is calipari too. pitt will not be focused in this game, squares lining up on the favorite in the early kick off looking to add and pad that bankroll before they lose more later in the nfl. take kentucky +4.

BWest · 01-08-11, 08:42 AM

Look at who Kentucky played and the score of those games. They played several ranked teams and stayed in there with Aub. The only knock I can see that is scaring people off is the away record for Kentucky. Kentucky +3.5 or better is a good play. They shoot themselves in the foot alot of times but if you look at game stats, they often had a better 3rd down % and more 1st downs etc. They also have more penalties. They may not win but if I can get a +3.5 or +4, I'll take it. Pitt has had more head coaches than games played the last few months...... not really a good thing.

Duby · 01-08-11, 08:48 AM

Another Bowl win last night by backing LSU!!

I love PItts here. My numbers show Pits winning this Bowl by 10 points so -4 is a very good bargain.

GL everyone

CLASSIC ROCK · 01-08-11, 08:51 AM

Got to go with Kentucky here guys, think they are the better team

bio_blitz · 01-08-11, 09:26 AM

I like Pittsburgh as well, I took them when they were minus 3. I also used them in a moneyline parlay.

cadillac pete · 01-08-11, 09:49 AM

The safe bet is over 52'.....

Criminoles · 01-08-11, 10:07 AM

people put way too much stock in the whole "the team is distracted and in turmoil" angle - Miami OH took care of business with an interim coach, & Stanford was supposedly distracted by all the Harbaugh talk - just a couple examples of this bowl season where so-called distractions didn't matter - I think the kids want to win period, regardless of the situation. I'm not necessarily saying Pitt is the call here - just my opinion that games should be capped and wagered based on measurable data rather than conjecture about what mindset teams are in - having said all of that, both of these teams are pure poop.

Two4TheMoney21 · 01-08-11, 11:11 AM

Alright guys, I will give you some analysis on UK. I am a UK student, and have seen them play every game this year. As far as Newton getting the start, do not get psyched out here. Newton played great when he was a starter last year, went 5-2, and won 2 big SEC games on the road at Auburn and at Georgia. In fact, most people were pretty disappointed that he wasn't given the chance to be the starter after how well he played last year. UK is a dynamic offensive team with a lot of weapons, especially with Derrick Locke returning to full health. UK will put points on the board today, mostly via the run if I had to guess. UK has big play potential, but I am a little worried about the defense. The defense had been suspect all year, but against a very vanilla offense of Pitt, I think they will be do enough to win the game down the stretch. UK is a team that has some momentum and a positive vibe behind them, and first year Coach Joker Phillips definitely wants a win here to continue a pretty impressive bowl appearance and record streak. I would take UK +4 and the over. Just my 2 cents.