Boise undefeated and not getting a BCS Bowl...It's possible...

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  • JMUplayer
    SBR MVP
    • 08-27-09
    • 2765

    #1
    Boise undefeated and not getting a BCS Bowl...It's possible...
    If might not be fair but the bowls are about making money and packing the place. So consider the following scenario.

    The BCS bowls only HAVE to take the top non qualifier if they are in the top 12.

    Oregon vs. Auburn For National Champ
    Fiesta -- Locked into the Big 12 Champ and then pick last (no doubt last pick will be big east champ)
    Big Ten Champ vs. TCU in the ROSE

    Those are your west coast games....

    Do you think the Sugar/Orange would pick them to go cross country? Especially when you can get a team like Wisconsion, Iowa, LSU, Michigan State who you know will pack the place?

    Don't say i didn't warn you.
    The only scenario that could save Boise is if they can jump TCU in the BCS then they would go to the rose and the Sugar would take them in a minute. It's a matter of geography.
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    If IOWA, WISKY, and MICHIGAN STATE win out...........which is very possible, MSU wins the BIG TEN on a tiebreaker.

    This would pit TCU(if they remain unbeaten) against MSU in the ROSE BOWL, as you mentioned.

    If I'm not mistaken, only TWO teams from one conference can play in BCS bowls, and WISKY would be ranked ahead of IOWA in the BCS, thus BOISE STATE would probably play WISKY in a BCS bowl game.

    IOWA then would be the highest ranked BCS team not attending a BCS bowl game, as they could be ranked as high as #6 in the BCS if they win out..............this if I'm correct that only two teams at most from one conference can play in a BCS bowl.


    In the above scenario, this would not play out well for the BIG TEN in terms of matchups.............


    TCU 41
    MSU 10

    BOISE STATE 44
    WISKY 24

    Iowa then would face the #3 team from the SEC in the CAPITAL ONE bowl, ALABAMA, and probably lose also.
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #3
      By the way, make no mistake about it, if BSU goes undefeated, they WILL BE GOING TO A BCS BOWL GAME.
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      • mike1814
        Restricted User
        • 01-14-10
        • 199

        #4
        boise st and TCU should play each other. i really don't care to watch either team after playing below average teams all year.
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Originally posted by mike1814
          boise st and TCU should play each other. i really don't care to watch either team after playing below average teams all year.

          I'm still trying to figure out how a team can lose to James Madison and be ranked in the top 20.......


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          • KingKolzig
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-02-10
            • 5550

            #6
            auburn will not go undefeated unless the SEC fixes it. they have survived so many close wins, they are totally overrated and TCU would beat them by 17 at least. in reality they are like the 13th best team in the country. so lucky.
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            • Flying Dutchman
              SBR MVP
              • 05-17-09
              • 2467

              #7
              Originally posted by KingKolzig
              auburn will not go undefeated unless the SEC fixes it. they have survived so many close wins, they are totally overrated and TCU would beat them by 17 at least. in reality they are like the 13th best team in the country. so lucky.
              Here's a typical PT poster.

              ...all mouth and no brain.

              one of JJ's finest.

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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                Originally posted by KingKolzig
                auburn will not go undefeated unless the SEC fixes it. they have survived so many close wins, they are totally overrated and TCU would beat them by 17 at least. in reality they are like the 13th best team in the country. so lucky.

                Auburn is overrated, but they have found ways to win and deserve a TOP FOUR ranking...................
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                • KingKolzig
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-02-10
                  • 5550

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
                  Here's a typical PT poster.

                  ...all mouth and no brain.

                  one of JJ's finest.
                  Miss st 17-14
                  Clemson 27-24
                  S.Car 35-27
                  Kent 37-34
                  LSU 24-17

                  yes totally dominant

                  Not ranked in the preseason top 25. picked as 8th best SEC team preseason by ESPN (behind vandy and tennessee). reason is because they have limited talent, and have been very fortunate. its that simple. its why they are one of only 2 teams to control their own destiny yet they are +500 to win it all. u are an idiot
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                  • ouman101
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-02-09
                    • 2815

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                    I'm still trying to figure out how a team can lose to James Madison and be ranked in the top 20.......
                    I'm still trying to figure out how a team that beat a team that lost to James Madison, which is this teams best/toughest win all season is ranked 4th in the BCS. Hell two weeks ago if La. Tech didn't fail 3 times in the red zone, they lost to Boise by a TD....TCU would throttle Boise if they got a rematch.

                    And Fishhead, you seem to forget that the Bucks are headed your way in 2 weeks. Iowa better figure out their offense ASAP. Aside from the MSU game, your boys have had a tough time moving the ball.
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                    • blackbart
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-04-07
                      • 3833

                      #11
                      projection right now is no bcs for boise, they are not part of the bcs and the bcs will do everything in their power to screw them.
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                      • ouman101
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-02-09
                        • 2815

                        #12
                        Originally posted by blackbart
                        projection right now is no bcs for boise, they are not part of the bcs and the bcs will do everything in their power to screw them.
                        Honestly though, like someone else said, the Bowls are all about making money. Boise can't even sell out their own stadium in their own backyard. What would convince a bowl to invite them over someone else that would fill the whole stadium?
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                        • Fishhead
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-11-05
                          • 40179

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ouman101
                          Honestly though, like someone else said, the Bowls are all about making money. Boise can't even sell out their own stadium in their own backyard. What would convince a bowl to invite them over someone else that would fill the whole stadium?
                          Think you are mistaken here......BSU is a pretty good travel team.
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                          • bruceBRUCEbruce
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-20-09
                            • 2560

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ouman101
                            Honestly though, like someone else said, the Bowls are all about making money. Boise can't even sell out their own stadium in their own backyard. What would convince a bowl to invite them over someone else that would fill the whole stadium?
                            Integrity
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                            • k13
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-16-10
                              • 18104

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fishhead
                              By the way, make no mistake about it, if BSU goes undefeated, they WILL BE GOING TO A BCS BOWL GAME.
                              Most likely not.

                              For Boise State, it had been a very bad week. So bad, that the Broncos now seem destined to be home for the holidays. Despite a comfortable ...


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                              • ouman101
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-02-09
                                • 2815

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                Think you are mistaken here......BSU is a pretty good travel team.
                                Why can't they sell out their own stadium then? I realize that the teams they play are the equivalent of high school teams, but even high school teams can sell out their stadium. Obviously I'm not a big fan of Boise, but it is a fact that they have had not been able to sell out all of their home games.

                                Wish that shitty VT team would have just beat them, so we didn't have to hear about them. I'm still amazed that there are 7 voters that think Boise deserves a 1st place vote in the AP polls.
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by k13
                                  Most likely not.

                                  For Boise State, it had been a very bad week. So bad, that the Broncos now seem destined to be home for the holidays. Despite a comfortable ...


                                  I would still make BSU a favorite on playing in a BCS bowl if they go undefeated...........
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                                  • Fishhead
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-11-05
                                    • 40179

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ouman101
                                    Why can't they sell out their own stadium then? I realize that the teams they play are the equivalent of high school teams, but even high school teams can sell out their stadium. Obviously I'm not a big fan of Boise, but it is a fact that they have had not been able to sell out all of their home games.

                                    Wish that shitty VT team would have just beat them, so we didn't have to hear about them. I'm still amazed that there are 7 voters that think Boise deserves a 1st place vote in the AP polls.
                                    One writes for the IDAHO STATESMAN..........go figure.
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                                    • yisman
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-01-08
                                      • 75682

                                      #19
                                      If Boise State goes undefeated, I can guarantee you they will get into a BCS Bowl.

                                      Not sure about the championship game, though.
                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                      [/quote]

                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                      • xyzky
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-23-07
                                        • 1577

                                        #20
                                        It would be very dumb for them to leave out a no loss Boise team...I would help end the BCS system all together! (which would be very nice)
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                                        • JMUplayer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-27-09
                                          • 2765

                                          #21
                                          If there was a spot in the West Coast games i would agree that they would get a spot but to ask a team from Idaho to travel cross country..... For a bowl it's not about who they play it's about packing the seats. It's a business.

                                          Again don't say i didn't warn you.

                                          The fiesta bowl is going to get screwed because they get the BIG EAST champ because nobody wants them.
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                                          • Herky
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-09-10
                                            • 748

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ouman101
                                            And Fishhead, you seem to forget that the Bucks are headed your way in 2 weeks. Iowa better figure out their offense ASAP. Aside from the MSU game, your boys have had a tough time moving the ball.
                                            you must not watch very much football. Stanzi threw for 290 yards and 4th string RB had 129 yards on 22 carries on Saturday.
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                                            • playersonly69
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-04-08
                                              • 12827

                                              #23
                                              Not sure that they even deserve to go
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                                              • ouman101
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-02-09
                                                • 2815

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Herky
                                                you must not watch very much football. Stanzi threw for 290 yards and 4th string RB had 129 yards on 22 carries on Saturday.
                                                Sorry, you took it the wrong way. I root for Iowa to do good anytime they aren't playing Ohio State. I'm just saying, it came down to the wire for them to beat Indiana, and putting up 18 points against them isn't impressive. I know you guys were down to a 4th string RB. I'm just saying overall I have been disappointed/surprised in their lack of offense/scoring this year, and I don't think 18 points against OSU will get them a W.
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                                                • scarp
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-12-10
                                                  • 697

                                                  #25
                                                  agree. I'd like TCU vs. Boise State
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                                                  • MrExacta
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-16-07
                                                    • 662

                                                    #26
                                                    tcu vs boise would be the 3rd meeting of these teams in a bowl game in the last 4 years.

                                                    MrExacta -`
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                                                    • JMUplayer
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-27-09
                                                      • 2765

                                                      #27
                                                      That's so dumb to want a bowl game between them this year...... They'll play in the Mountain West next year automatically.
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                                                      • hanco21
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-19-06
                                                        • 3414

                                                        #28
                                                        Very Possible...Strength of schedule is going to kill them
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                                                        • agharah1
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-07-10
                                                          • 2304

                                                          #29
                                                          Indeed, it is possible for Boise to get left out. It all depends on how strong of a case the Big Ten makes for a 2nd BCS Bid. The ACC and Big East don't even deserve one, the Pac 10 is going to get 2 (Oregon and Stanford), the SEC will get a 2nd because the Sugar Bowl would easily take LSU if they have the chance. So with 6 conference champs, TCU, and a 2nd SEC and Pac10 team, that leaves one spot. Either Boise, or one of Wisc/OSU/MSU/Iowa.
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #30
                                                            Anyone want to bet?

                                                            I'm willing to bet Boise State makes a BCS bowl if they go undefeated.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • The Bet Master
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-29-10
                                                              • 2665

                                                              #31
                                                              Hopefully it's not MSU Vs. TCU/Boise in the Rose Bowl. Then TCU/Boise could actually win. If Ohio St. Wisconsin and Michigan St. are all tied, who wins the tiebreaker?
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                                                              • Live4Saturday
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 09-29-10
                                                                • 77

                                                                #32
                                                                Boise will absolutely got to a BCS so stop arguing about it.

                                                                But good news now that they are joining a better conference so we won't have to hear from them anymore as they start loosing 2-3 games a year.

                                                                And Auburn is not over rated.
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                                                                • Live4Saturday
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 09-29-10
                                                                  • 77

                                                                  #33
                                                                  "Hopefully it's not MSU Vs. TCU/Boise in the Rose Bowl. Then TCU/Boise could actually win. If Ohio St. Wisconsin and Michigan St. are all tied, who wins the tiebreaker?"

                                                                  The Best master: the team with the highest BCS ranking gets the BCS berth, as the tie breaker in the Big Ten.
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                                                                  • Hotlanta Steam
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 09-08-10
                                                                    • 896

                                                                    #34
                                                                    It is pretty laughable that people on here that are supposed to be here talking about gambling and we all know the first rule of college sports gambling is leave your regional prejudices at the door... Boise and TCU are excellent football teams... They have the talent and ability to beat any team in the country on a given day... Weaker schedules or not... This is not to say they deserve to be in the title game over 1 loss teams but the fact is.... they are not something to look down your nose at... THEY CAN PLAY

                                                                    Also to chastise the poster above for being dead on about Auburn again goes against what this forum is about... You people need to stop buying into the media bias from what the 4 letter network tells you or your local sparky the sportscaster radio host tells you... The fact is AUBURN IS ONE PLAYER and even as good as he is...he can't play defense for them... Auburn could have lost 4 games by now and the truth is the SEC is not nearly as good as it has been in the past...

                                                                    As for Boise missing out on the BCS? It is possible but I have feeling they will go to the Rose Bowl as Oregon and TCU will be playing for the title... Heck I think Auburn might get exposed this week by a Georgia team that last to Colorado...
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                                                                    • PatrickBateman
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 03-29-08
                                                                      • 367

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Why don't we just give Boise St a chance to play one of these "tougher conference" teams in the National title, they lose then all the Boise St fans have to just shut up...they win though, it proves how wrong the whole BCS Bullshit is. I am just tired of seeing TCU vs Boise, just let them play these "powerhouse" schools and we will see whome is right.
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