THEY DID lose to shitty USC 50-13 at home. Maybe that was earlier in season and they have progressed. If they show spirirt and play like they did last week or even close, its easily +23. AZ is so inconsistent. Also, they are playing to move up in rankings. How is AZ's coaches character? Does he like to run up scores, or is he content with winning by 2-3 TD's thats the real kicker IMO.
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Even with the 37 point loss to USC I would say wa State + 23 1/2. Thats 2 td less than what they lost by to USC.
USC is a far superior team than ArizonaComment -
USC is far superior to Arizona? LMAO.Comment -
LOL. You " always jump on the big favorite " squares crack my ass up.
2 weeks ago I posted on this board a play AGAINST USC.
USC was laying 11 points in that game and all I heard was how USC was THE SHIT. How they would run all over the place and score at will, how they would EASILY cover the spread. They were going to cover the 11 polints easily.
well THEY LOST THE GAME
And now its the same very squares who 2 weeks ago acted like USC was god who are now saying USC sucks.
I really believe that most people just look at records and rating and dont use an ounce of actual common sense or critical thinking when making their plays.
Joe Square --- "DAMN ARIZONA is 4-1 and Washington State is 1-5. Damn Arizona will cover easy, I dont care if its 14, 24 or 64, play Arizona. They are ranked you know and Washington State is a "shit team". Play the ranked team, avoid " shit" teams, the handicap doesnt matter. If its 14, 24 or 64. Who cares. Just avoid "shit" teams "
LOL. Too bad there is no way Arizona is going to cover this 24 point line.Comment -
Wa State can and will score on Arizona. Wa State has scored on every team they have played this year. They have scored a minimum of 16 in every game, and that was against USC.
they have faced 3 better defenses already in Oregon, USC and UCLA. They scored on all 3 of these teams.
They scored 23 on Oregon. They had a real shot at beating UCLA in the 4th quarter.
Arizona is distgustingly overrated. They kicked the shit out of Toledo and the Citadel ( who cares ), then they have been in 3 tight games after they actually started playing real competition. They lost 1 of those games and escaped another with a 1 point win . This team is not any where near as good as the world thinks it is.
And Wa State is no longer the shit crap team that went 0-12 last year losing by 40+ almost every game. Just people havent noticed because they are still losing, but not by 24 any more.
They held Oregon ( the #1 scoring offense in the nation ) to 43 last week. So what is Arizona going to score Saturday ? I say 30 tops, maybe 35 if their lucky, but even 35 wont be enough to cover the 24.
WA STATE is putting up 22 points a game and thats against OK STate, UCLA, USC, OREGON, and SMU who is 4-2 and alot better than people realize.
Wa State has played 5 very good teams this year and scored points on ALL of them and covered this spread ( 24) 3 out of the last 4 weeks playing better teams than Arizona.
Arizona might win by 10.Comment -
iI played them too. And they are an improved team, but they are still pretty bad. Just played them because they will score and I don't think Ariz will score enough to cover the spread and their scoring. Hey, that is basically what you just said. lol But, just for shits and giggles I played $40 on them to win the game too.'
I piss money away all the time.
Whatever, good luck.Comment -
Wash vs. USC? Good bet, and I played it myself.
SJSU vs. Nevada? Good bet, and I played it myself.
Wash St vs. Arizona? I don't think it's a good bet, and I'm on the other side, but that's not really the point. The point is that some of your justifications for the bet don't hold up, and it's not too late for you to reconsider and back out since the line hasn't moved.Comment -
I understand your thought process, but the cougars are horribleComment -
Good call! You got lucky as hell, but that doesnt matter. W is a W. I still dont like to play shit teams though.Comment -
Wouldn't call it lucky by any means; the game could easily have been much tighter. Already got down on WSU +36 at Stanford for another trip to the bank.Comment -
Outside of Oregon is there really a good team in the Pac 10? Stanford maybe...but the rest of them are just fodder. IMO +36 is too much for any matchup in this conference.Comment -
Your a shit team if you constantly get +20 & +30pt lines. I am a 20-30pt handicap in golf. Does that make me a shit golfer? You bet your nuts it does! If someone gave me 20-30 stokes against Tiger Woods could I beat him? Here is the key folks....listen close.... It depends on how the person (or in the case of WA St the other team) plays that day. I could play to the top of may game and still get buried. They may not be on their game that day and I cover the spread. Does that make me a good team tomorrow. HELL NO! And that is what you are betting if you take shit teams.
That is what makes a shit team a shit team. You just cant candy coat it by saying they played well in this spot, because its bullshyt! It all depends on how the other team plays.
Is it wrong to play a shit team in certain spots? No, but you better know that your stepping into a hole before the game starts.Comment -
Nice win, nobs. U deserve sum pts for these kinds of gems.Comment -
That is just not true.
The year the Patriots won their first superbowl, they were + 10 or more so many times. Thats because they have won 3 maybe 4 games the year before and everyone they were still a "shit" team who had just been getting lucky.
They were +10 to +14 during the reg season at least 10 times, and then + double digits through the playoffs right up to the superbowl where they were + 13 1/2.
I am not saying Wa State is the patriots or capable of winning a championship.
Of course not, but they are A LOT better than they were last year. And the lines are reflecting that they are as bad as last year. People havent noticed that this is a better team this year because they are still losing.
Did you hear what Arizona coach stoops said after the game ? He was dead on. "this is a different Cougars team. They compete in every game, and they compete hard. This team is vastly improved and very dangerous"
And I agree with the other, Wa State + 36 is NUTS.
And I guess you mean I got lucky by Zona's QB going down, but we also fumbled the ball twice and lost them both, Zona fumbles the ball and it bounces right back to them. We turnover 4 times, Zona only 1.
Still I give you credit for coming back to the thread after the game which is way more than most others do.
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I dunno, Arizona will score a lot not sure if Wash St can keep upComment -
earlier i said nice pick, but it needs to be said that if nick foles had not gotten hurt early in the 2nd quarter, arizona would have easily covered the 23 and a half point spread, because they won by 17 with the backup in there for almost 3 quarters, the zona defense took care of business, this win was more about luck than being good, it needs to be accepted by the original poster or he is kidding himselfComment -
dude breaks happen. both good and bad. noone can be 100% for sure what the score would have been if Foles doesnt get hurt.
What happens if Zona has 4 TO's and WaST only 1, instead of the other way around.
When you fumble isnt it pretty much luck as to who recovers the ball. We fumble twice and lose them both. Zona fumbles and it bounces right back to them like it was in rewind.
Breaks happen, both good and bad. What if Wa St got 1 bad call or 1 bad break at the end and lost by 24 ? Would anyone say hey it was just a bad break no they would say LOSER. The play lost.
Yeah Foles went down, but Wa State had some bad breaks in that game too, and if anything thats just one more reason not to ever lay 23 1/2 points
I mean QB's do get injured, its not like that only happens once in 25 years.
someone lays 23 1/2 points counting on their Starting QB to not get injured, to play the whole game , I would say thats their fault.
either way a wins a win and a loss is a loss, I think we could look back at every game and play the shoulda coulda woulda game, but this makes 7 straight wins either way you slice it
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lol...heheh...
thanks for the cool pick.Comment -
Thanks, I just cant beleive they are still +21 this weekend at Arizona State.
They just scored 28 at a top 10 team.
This offense is actually pretty good and they wont lose by 21 at Arizona State.
Team keeps losing so a lot of people dont realize that they are vastly improved.
They are losing games, but covering the spreads easilyComment -
I'm on Washington State +21 at ASU. I love it. ASU is going to have to work hard just to win this game. I'm going to keep watching for these opportunities until WSU gets a win and the lines come down.Comment -
Exactly, people wont take notice of how improved they are as long as the keep losing.
People just look at their record. Wa State may finish the season with just 1 win, but they are a vastly improved team just the same.Comment -
They scored 21 in the 4th quarter after the score was 38-7 and Stanford was playing 3rd team offense and defense. If stanford wanted to the game could have been 50+ to 7. WA St did score 7 legit. Congrats!
Still nice cash though. I hate playing those big spreads you never know when they are going to pull out the first teamers.Comment -
Incorrect; it was 31-7 with 3:00 left in the 3rd, 31-14 with 12:00 left and 38-14 with 6:00 left before WSU scored two late TD's. I watched the game and, even though you always worry a bit with big money on the line, I never felt that Stanford would cover, barring a Pick Six miracle or something of that sort. I'm on WSU again at +21 although I think this line is much sharper than the previous three; this looks like an 18 or 19 point game but two or three free points is still a gift. Looks like this might be the last time the Cougs are such an overlay.Comment -
Yeah it has to end soon, but it has been a nice run of getting Wa State + way too many points.
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Not disagreeing with you as we are on the same side with this but I like Wa State +21 at Zona State even better than the +23 1/2 against Arizona even though that game was in Pullman.
But I have to agree I am getting that gut feeling it wont be so easy this week, just because it cant keep being so easy. But sometimes when a team has a recent history of sucking like Wa State does people refuse to take notice that they are improved unless they start winning some games.
team may finish another season with just 1 win ( a 1 point win against Montana State no less ) so a lot of gamblers still think this is a garbage team. Certainly they arent up to the pac 10 level of the likes of Arizona, USC, Oregon, UCLA, Stanford, ETC. but still this is a team that you cant just give 25-35 points to every weekComment -
two in a row. hope i see one of these thread titles again this week. glComment -
WSU has been a covering machine lately (not really, but they are doing well). They are vastly improved from the last couple years, mostly on the offensive side. I am going to continue to roll with WSU + the points.Comment -
going with the cougars against the sun devilsComment
