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  • Mac4Lyfe
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-04-09
    • 48377

    #36
    Originally posted by hoop guru
    CAL backers you are goin to win. I would not say its a lock but close eneough. I would also take CAL -1.5 or -2 first half. IF CAL does not cover first half, take CAL 2nd half real heavy. Oddsmakers want CAL to cover this spread and that is why it was set so low. There is no way Nevada is goin to cover third straight home in a row.
    Close enough to a lock but not a lock??? Oddsmaker's want Cal to cover this spread? If Cal doesn't cover than bet more money? No way will Nevada cover 3 straight times? What are you smoking dude? Your speaking in a lot of certainties but then your speaking back and forth

    Originally posted by hoop guru
    NEvada played 4 non-conference games in 2009 and lost them all.
    CAL is a better team than those four teams that beat nevada in 2009. Nevada has won both nonconference games games so far this season. That streak is about to come to abrupt end on friday night.
    What does Cal beating teams last year have to do with them beating Nevada this year

    Originally posted by hoop guru
    Nevada is not goin to win this game. I would not take nevada plus the points in a game that they are goin to lose.
    Is that a lock

    Originally posted by hoop guru
    oddsmakers have a choice to set the spread low (cal -3) or set it high (CAL -10). IF they set high at CAL -10, everyone would still be on CAL including myself. I think oddsmakers want CAL to cover the spread and that is why it is set low at CAL -3. IF oddsmakers wanted nevada to cover 3rd straight home game, the spread would have to be set really high.
    What the hell are you smoking?

    Originally posted by hoop guru
    CAL is goin to be motivated because they are not ranked in the top 25 yet. A 3-0 start would get CAL a top 25 ranking. A 3-0 start would also get Nevada ranked but CAL is not goin to lose. There probably be more golden bear fans at this home game.
    So who's motivated? Who's going to be 3-0

    I'm not trying to bash but I'm not understanding your points.

    Can Nevada pass the ball? I think so. Can their defense get stops on Cal? That's a question mark but a few Cal miscues will make the difference IMO. We shall see.
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    • hoop guru
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-09
      • 2414

      #37
      I am just saying that the odds are against nevada to cover the spread in 3 straight home games. Its not just nevada, it can be any division 1 college football team. Why don't you do some research and find out how many teams have covered the spread in 3 straight home games. All I am is saying that it will be like suicide to go with nevada in this game. I would not touch nevada in this game at all. Absolutely no play on nevada for me. I wish you luck if you are on nevada because you will need it. I would not touch nevada if I was getting 2 tds i nthis game.
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      • Mac4Lyfe
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-04-09
        • 48377

        #38
        Originally posted by hoop guru
        I am just saying that the odds are against nevada to cover the spread in 3 straight home games. Its not just nevada, it can be any division 1 college football team. Why don't you do some research and find out how many teams have covered the spread in 3 straight home games. All I am is saying that it will be like suicide to go with nevada in this game. I would not touch nevada in this game at all. Absolutely no play on nevada for me. I wish you luck if you are on nevada because you will need it. I would not touch nevada if I was getting 2 tds i nthis game.
        Huh? Off the top of my head in 2008... Florida covered EVERY game but 1. Home and on the road. I know because they were a covering machine and I made a ton of cash. I believe Oklahoma covered every game but 2 as well. Both were heavy favorites in most of their games too.

        Houston covered every home game last year as well.

        The team we're talking about, Nevada covered 3 straight games at home last year... UNLV, LaTech and idaho. and this is off the top of my head. I'm sure if I researched it, I could find many other teams as well. Idaho was covering well for me last year if I remember.

        Now, none of this has anything to do with Cal vs Nevada this week but I'm not sure where your getting your info and why would you use that to cap a game??
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        • hoop guru
          SBR MVP
          • 02-07-09
          • 2414

          #39
          Nevada played 3 straight games at home in 2009. Lost to mIssouri (31-21) on sept 25 and won/covered next two against conference teams (UNLV and Lousiana tech). Idaho was not a 3rd game in a row a home. They played an away game before they played idaho. I am talking about 3 consecutive home games in 3 weeks. You are goin to have hard time to find a team that did cover 3 consectutive home games in football without a road game between those games.
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          • mstone897
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-09-10
            • 403

            #40
            Anyone think this line moves? I like Cal. Should I nab it at the -2.5 or -3 that is there now?
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            • t-wizzle
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 12-18-09
              • 38099

              #41
              Cal's rout of colorado has made them overrated. I think this is a trap.
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              • paste_me
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-09
                • 1832

                #42
                Line is going the other way, what do we make of this!
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                • Terrapin Station
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-05-10
                  • 2583

                  #43
                  Large play for me on Cal this Friday.
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48377

                    #44
                    Originally posted by hoop guru
                    Nevada played 3 straight games at home in 2009. Lost to mIssouri (31-21) on sept 25 and won/covered next two against conference teams (UNLV and Lousiana tech). Idaho was not a 3rd game in a row a home. They played an away game before they played idaho. I am talking about 3 consecutive home games in 3 weeks. You are goin to have hard time to find a team that did cover 3 consectutive home games in football without a road game between those games.
                    Are you serious??? Many teams don't even play 3 straight home games in a row. Especially non BCS teams that have to hit the road. I've never heard or seen that stat being important.

                    No problem. You may be right, Cal may blow them out. Who knows but I wouldn't call anything a lock nor say the books want Cal to win since Nevada covered 2 straight home games. We'll know who covers soon enough. I haven't placed a bet on either team yet but leaning Nevada.
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                    • Killer_Demo
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-15-08
                      • 8409

                      #45
                      on cal as well...they tore it up last weekend...hopefully they can keep this momentum
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                      • over5.5
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-10-10
                        • 530

                        #46
                        cal wont let down, cal will cover.

                        im in for cal at -3

                        go bears.
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                        • hoop guru
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-07-09
                          • 2414

                          #47
                          I see CAL covering the 1st half of this game. I also see CAL covering 2nd half if they do not cover the first half. LEts say if you would go 5 units on CAL -1.5 1st half and you lose, I would take CAL 2nd for 15 units. I see CAL possibly covering the first half and the 2nd half of this game. But I think a split (each team covers a half) as the likely scenario. I also see CAL winning by 10 plus points. IF I was goin to wager on CAL, this is how I would do it.
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                          • ackem19
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-07-09
                            • 669

                            #48
                            Public is all over cal and yet, the line is moving down. Same thing happened last week when WVU played Marshall. Same situation, Friday night, and the line movement is there. And then the same thing happened on monday night with the chargers game. Public hammered SD and the line went down. I say go the other way. Take the home dog in televsed games in primetime. I hope you guys don't bet a lot on this game. Best of luck.
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                            • xyzky
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-23-07
                              • 1577

                              #49
                              What happened with the Stanford/UCLA line last week? You can always make points about line movements...I love this NV team, but, this is not a good matchup for them. It's not to say that Cal doesnt lay an egg, but, with the small line and the history of the Pack against good opponents it's an easy play for me.
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                              • MC PICKS
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-10-10
                                • 6644

                                #50
                                I just got nevada +3.
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                                • HotStreak
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-12-09
                                  • 3235

                                  #51
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                                  • hoop guru
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-07-09
                                    • 2414

                                    #52
                                    I look at a possible teaser involving this game. I would take CAL +3 but would not even consider taking Nevada +9. As far as taking nevada +3, you should be patient because you would probably get +4 on friday. Even +4 will not help you as Nevada loses by double digit on friday.
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                                    • Serbone
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-21-09
                                      • 1300

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by hoop guru
                                      I look at a possible teaser involving this game. I would take CAL +3 but would not even consider taking Nevada +9. As far as taking nevada +3, you should be patient because you would probably get +4 on friday. Even +4 will not help you as Nevada loses by double digit on friday.
                                      All over the goddam place, you are...
                                      You should stick to "hoops".
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                                      • hoop guru
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-07-09
                                        • 2414

                                        #54
                                        I see the line at CAL -3 at caliente sportsbook in TJ. THis is one of the worst sportsbooks in the world. I have checked the spread at the online books and the spread is CAL -2.5. THis sportsbook would not even drop the spread to -2.5. THis book is trying to discourage action on CAL and will not move the line to CAL -2.5. I took Kansas last week and this sorry sportsbook had Kansas +13.5 while other online books had it at Kansas +14.5. THis book cheats bettors by cheating them out of a half to a full point on the spread. In this particular game friday night, Caliente does not want action on CAL at all.
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                                        • hoop guru
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-07-09
                                          • 2414

                                          #55
                                          Serbone, this is a forum. WHy are u such a hater. You are going to hate me even more after friday night.
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                                          • Hotlanta Steam
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-08-10
                                            • 896

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by xyzky
                                            I live in Reno and have watched and read about this team for 4 years now...Our Secondary will get eaten alive...Ault is not a big game coach...NV is better as a live dog, but, this is not the case in this matchup, they are mearly getting respect because they can score on weaker opponents. I had this line opening at -13, so -2.5 is a max unit play for me.
                                            I capped this at -11 myself... sorry but anybody that watched that Cal offense will know that winning this game by a FG has to be a max unit play... there will be plenty of Cal supporters at the game too considering it is 3.5 hour drive straight up I80 on a Friday night...if you think this is not already planned as a roadtrip Friday night and Saturday in Reno.. you are mistaken... The oddsmakers may think they have a sucker play here but sometimes talent does win out even in letdown look ahead situations like this one with a trip to Arizona coming up next...

                                            Nevada pounded a hapless Colorado State team that was already pounded by Colorado (in a supposed rivalry game) meanwhile we all saw what Cal did to Colorado on national TV...
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                                            • Joe_Shabadoo
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-17-09
                                              • 607

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Hotlanta Steam
                                              I capped this at -11 myself... sorry but anybody that watched that Cal offense will know that winning this game by a FG has to be a max unit play... there will be plenty of Cal supporters at the game too considering it is 3.5 hour drive straight up I80 on a Friday night...if you think this is not already planned as a roadtrip Friday night and Saturday in Reno.. you are mistaken... The oddsmakers may think they have a sucker play here but sometimes talent does win out even in letdown look ahead situations like this one with a trip to Arizona coming up next... Nevada pounded a hapless Colorado State team that was already pounded by Colorado (in a supposed rivalry game) meanwhile we all saw what Cal did to Colorado on national TV...
                                              As well, this is a situation where first-hand experience in watching a team close-up for years now just leads one to know that this is one of those oh-so-few games where the books are going to take a loss on.

                                              Of course, as I've stated before, the books will always have the advantage, but their ability to make large profits on the public will likely not come to fruition here in this spot. I think there's perhaps too much credence given to new defensive coordinator Andy Buh and his knowledge of the Pac-10, arriving this winter from Stanford.
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                                              • MaurySline
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-11-08
                                                • 166

                                                #58
                                                there is no such school called UNR--its actually called NEVADA, like WASHINGTON, TEXAS, IOWA not UW-seattle or UT-austin etc...
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                                                • paste_me
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-11-09
                                                  • 1832

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by MaurySline
                                                  there is no such school called UNR--its actually called NEVADA, like WASHINGTON, TEXAS, IOWA not UW-seattle or UT-austin etc...
                                                  I guessing you didn't go to college. When a school has many campuses, you can also also say UT-Austin.
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                                                  • bswagos
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 07-27-10
                                                    • 442

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by paste_me
                                                    I guessing you didn't go to college. When a school has many campuses, you can also also say UT-Austin.
                                                    Or being in California and saying you went to "STATE"
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                                                    • AdamRB22
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 09-08-10
                                                      • 60

                                                      #61
                                                      I slamed cal hard..I took it as soon as I saw the line on sun at -2. After reading on all these theories I would have thought twice about taking this game. Point blank cal is a better team and have far superior athletes. Who the hell would take Nevada and give a logical explanation besides that "it looks like a trap line" so I'm taking Nevada....when there are so many other lines that make way more sense like Arkansas+3. Saying the books are trying to fool the public is all bull crap. Books are not fortune tellers. Or maybe the cal q.b is in the mifia even better! My point is call is a better team. Nevada is getting respect because they put up points and are at home. Over the years I have taken alot of teams playing at Nevada like Boise for example. Spread was Boise -3. Same situation. Boise creamed them. Some teams just tent to get alot of respect when at home like Nevada N.d. The miz. When they are not that good. gl
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                                                      • hoop guru
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-09
                                                        • 2414

                                                        #62
                                                        Nevada +3 looks like a trap line is bunch of crap. Not all road favorites with a spread of -3 are traps. The oddsmakers set this spread at cal -1.5 for a reason so that there is a conspiracy about the trap theory. Now if the spread was CAL -10, it is an accurate spread and therefore its not a trap. IF you think this game is a trap and are considering taking nevada +3, you need to stay away because nevada is goin to get smoked in this game. There are a lot better games on the board like Arkansas +3 and Miss St +8. I would not buy into trap line theory. Oddsmakers set some weird spreads just to confuse the public.
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                                                        • Sunde91
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 8325

                                                          #63
                                                          Nevada = #1 Rushing Offense in 2009, #6 already in 2010 with returning 3rd year starting senior RB Vai Taua, who ran for 1300+ yds in 2 years; and 4th year starting senior QB Colin Kaepernick, who ran for 1100 yards in 08 and 09 and 2000+ passing in all 3 years. Nevada has 18 returning starters total.

                                                          And if anyone remebers from last year, Nevada was about an endzone fumble away from beating Mizzou SU at home on a Friday as a 7.5 dog; won all their other home games.

                                                          And the public is absolutely pounding Cal as what might be a suspiciously low road fav. Nevada as a big anti-public home dog under the lights with one of the best running games and a chance at one of their biggest home wins in years..

                                                          Maybe just found my first play of the week. Some big RLM or a +3.5 would be delish.
                                                          Last edited by Sunde91; 09-16-10, 02:56 AM.
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                                                          • Sunde91
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                                                            • 11-26-09
                                                            • 8325

                                                            #64
                                                            The oddsmakers set this spread at cal -1.5 for a reason so that there is a conspiracy about the trap theory. Now if the spread was CAL -10, it is an accurate spread and therefore its not a trap.
                                                            Originally posted by hoop guru
                                                            oddsmakers have a choice to set the spread low (cal -3) or set it high (CAL -10). IF they set high at CAL -10, everyone would still be on CAL including myself. I think oddsmakers want CAL to cover the spread and that is why it is set low at CAL -3. IF oddsmakers wanted nevada to cover 3rd straight home game, the spread would have to be set really high.
                                                            Note to self: teams are less likely to cover a "3rd straight home game in a row", so books setup anti-traps that appeal to square public perception and intice 80% action where the spread is 7 points off. Yes, because, like, books are in this business to give away 7 points and free money.

                                                            You most clearly have a clue

                                                            Seriously guy, trolling belongs in Players Talk.
                                                            Last edited by Sunde91; 09-16-10, 03:13 AM.
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                                                            • Joe_Shabadoo
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-17-09
                                                              • 607

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by MaurySline
                                                              there is no such school called UNR--its actually called NEVADA, like WASHINGTON, TEXAS, IOWA not UW-seattle or UT-austin etc...
                                                              Really, dude?

                                                              Thanks for letting me know, after I've graduated, and had been living in Reno for 17 years. Damn, I, and the whole student-body, must've looked fvcking foolish whenever the campus was spoken of as "U.N.R."
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                                                              • Sunde91
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-26-09
                                                                • 8325

                                                                #66
                                                                Yeah, seriously, wtf is "UNR"

                                                                Someone wouldn't refer to Michigan as "UMAA" or Tennessee as "UTK"
                                                                Last edited by Sunde91; 09-16-10, 04:27 AM.
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                                                                • Hotlanta Steam
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-08-10
                                                                  • 896

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Yet Georgia is referred to as UGA... and the GA is not the Georgia abbreviation it stands for Athens. Nebraska is UNL for Nebraska-Lincoln... this is not uncommon... It is often referred to as Cal Berkeley...
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                                                                  • pdx107
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-20-09
                                                                    • 923

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by hoop guru
                                                                    NEvada played 4 non-conference games in 2009 and lost them all.

                                                                    @ ND 35-0 loss
                                                                    @ CSU 35-20 loss
                                                                    MIissouri 31-21 loss
                                                                    SMU 45-10 loss

                                                                    CAL is a better team than those four teams that beat nevada in 2009. Nevada has won both nonconference games games so far this season. That streak is about to come to abrupt end on friday night.
                                                                    Ummm 1-4 We beat UNLV

                                                                    Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                                    Yeah, seriously, wtf is "UNR"

                                                                    Someone wouldn't refer to Michigan as "UMAA" or Tennessee as "UTK"
                                                                    Easiest way to differentiate between us and the morons in Vegas



                                                                    I live in Reno go to UNR and no way I take the Wolf Pack
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                                                                    • blueghost
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-11-09
                                                                      • 1715

                                                                      #69
                                                                      yes line seems to low but its a bigger game for nevada wont take much for them to be up for this game cant say the same for CAL
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                                                                      • luckyutah
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 11-16-08
                                                                        • 83

                                                                        #70
                                                                        when i think a line is off by more than a touchdown (as i do here), i usually lose the bet along with the rest of the squares.

                                                                        i have to agree with admiral ackbar here.
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