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  • getlucky2win
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    #1
    where to bet ufc in vegas?
    went to the lvh and mgm today b4 weighins and couldnt get any ufc lines for tom. except the main 3 fights. any1 know which sportsbook has most ufc lines/props.
  • gabe
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    • 09-12-11
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    #2
    Originally posted by getlucky2win
    went to the lvh and mgm today b4 weighins and couldnt get any ufc lines for tom. except the main 3 fights. any1 know which sportsbook has most ufc lines/props.
    I've bet at monte Carlo a couple times, they have all the fights but don't remember about props
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    • SmoovCruz
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      • 04-06-12
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      #3
      Jerry's Nugget
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      • NunyaBidness
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        • 07-26-09
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        #4
        Originally posted by getlucky2win
        went to the lvh and mgm today b4 weighins and couldnt get any ufc lines for tom. except the main 3 fights. any1 know which sportsbook has most ufc lines/props.
        A lot of the books will only carry the main card fights, look the day of the event and you should get the rest of the card at some books, and some over/unders on the main card. Juice is higher in vegas than on line though, too. Don't forget to pick up drink tickets.
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        • getlucky2win
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          #5
          Originally posted by SmoovCruz
          Jerry's Nugget
          do they really have ufc at jerry's nugget? dont make me drive to north vegas for nothin. i already been drivin all over lookin for lines
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          • Thor4140
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            • 02-09-08
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            #6
            This is a tough sport to fix so u won't get many lines on it.
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            • gabe
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              #7
              Nunya,
              Yeah, I got Tito at +400 against Bader when he was like +500 online.
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              • MMAbetMASTA
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                • 05-24-11
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                #8
                Good thread, I was wondering the same thing.... I've never bet mma in vegas, but have thought about driving out there before when I had a bigger bank roll and was making larger plays, only 3 1/2 hours from where I'm at...

                Anyone know what the average 'to win' limit on a SU bet is at say the mgm or wynne owned casinos??

                My buddy played at mgm the other week and didn't bother to ask, but he said they set a limit on the number of plays on a single parlay... they wouldn't let him parlay more than 6 fighters on a single parlay card. I told him to ask what the win limit was he forgot to ask...

                I wonder if you could show up with 10k or something large like that and just throw it down, no questions asked...
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                • gabe
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                  Good thread, I was wondering the same thing.... I've never bet mma in vegas, but have thought about driving out there before when I had a bigger bank roll and was making larger plays, only 3 1/2 hours from where I'm at...

                  Anyone know what the average 'to win' limit on a SU bet is at say the mgm or wynne owned casinos??

                  My buddy played at mgm the other week and didn't bother to ask, but he said they set a limit on the number of plays on a single parlay... they wouldn't let him parlay more than 6 fighters on a single parlay card. I told him to ask what the win limit was he forgot to ask...

                  I wonder if you could show up with 10k or something large like that and just throw it down, no questions asked...
                  Yeah, I know guys who make 60k bets in Vegas
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                  • MMAbetMASTA
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                    • 05-24-11
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by gabe
                    Yeah, I know guys who make 60k bets in Vegas
                    on mma?? I know traditional sports they'll take really large bets, but because this is a 'new' sport per se I wouldn't be surprised if they're hesitant to take large wagers above 10k...
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                    • NunyaBidness
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                      I wonder if you could show up with 10k or something large like that and just throw it down, no questions asked...
                      On major sports you can, not MMA. I've needed supervisor approval for 1k bets on MMA.

                      But, its still easy to get money down in vegas. If you bet the limit, they have the opportunity to move the line, but then you can make another limit bet until they decide you're too sharp. And if so, you just go next door and get the same line, or have your friend bet it.

                      Another major advantage to betting in vegas is if they take a bet they HAVE to honor it. If they release a line flipped and you bet it, they have to pay out no matter what. No cancellations.
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                      • MMAbetMASTA
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                        • 05-24-11
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                        On major sports you can, not MMA. I've needed supervisor approval for 1k bets on MMA.

                        But, its still easy to get money down in vegas. If you bet the limit, they have the opportunity to move the line, but then you can make another limit bet until they decide you're too sharp. And if so, you just go next door and get the same line, or have your friend bet it.

                        Another major advantage to betting in vegas is if they take a bet they HAVE to honor it. If they release a line flipped and you bet it, they have to pay out no matter what. No cancellations.
                        very interesting... damn approval for just a grand, that's a little more 'tight' than I would have thought....

                        But yea I always figured if you really wanted to make a run in vegas, limits or not, there are still ways to win large money on mma... be like Mr. Walters or any other legit gambler that the casinos know as 'sharp' and have couriers or friends make additional plays for you and hit all the casinos at once!!!

                        Are you located in vegas???

                        Is anyone here located out in vegas???
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                        • NunyaBidness
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                          very interesting... damn approval for just a grand, that's a little more 'tight' than I would have thought....

                          But yea I always figured if you really wanted to make a run in vegas, limits or not, there are still ways to win large money on mma... be like Mr. Walters or any other legit gambler that the casinos know as 'sharp' and have couriers or friends make additional plays for you and hit all the casinos at once!!!

                          Are you located in vegas???

                          Is anyone here located out in vegas???
                          I don't live in vegas but I'm there several times a year. I know a guy who used to be a runner for Billy Walters, went broke betting his own money along with Billy's picks not realizing that Billy plays both sides.

                          I've gotten larger bets than 1k down without approval as well, but it seems random at times. They probably ramp up the limits a bit as fights are going on, but I'm always up in my room betting movements online.
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                          • MMAbetMASTA
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                            I don't live in vegas but I'm there several times a year. I know a guy who used to be a runner for Billy Walters, went broke betting his own money along with Billy's picks not realizing that Billy plays both sides.

                            I've gotten larger bets than 1k down without approval as well, but it seems random at times. They probably ramp up the limits a bit as fights are going on, but I'm always up in my room betting movements online.
                            wow dude that's crazy!!! What did he get in return for running for Walters? i would assume nothing but the picks.... lol not to laugh at the guy, but man that's crazy he went broke following him and didn't realize its fuckin' billy walters who swings both sides of the lines to get what he wants.. Incredible.
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                            • The Fobfather
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                              • 01-25-12
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                              #15
                              From my limited experience, betting MMA in vegas isn't that great. Bad odds and limited options.
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                              • NunyaBidness
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                wow dude that's crazy!!! What did he get in return for running for Walters? i would assume nothing but the picks.... lol not to laugh at the guy, but man that's crazy he went broke following him and didn't realize its fuckin' billy walters who swings both sides of the lines to get what he wants.. Incredible.
                                He got paid, I'm not sure how much, but he was supposedly constantly on call.

                                Also, if you make a big sportsbook cash in vegas always ask to be paid in chips. If they give you cash they have to file a CTR which is a big pain in the ass.
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                                • NunyaBidness
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by The Fobfather
                                  From my limited experience, betting MMA in vegas isn't that great. Bad odds and limited options.
                                  Yep, but there are a few upsides too. I have stacks of drink tickets to every casino I frequent, so then the wife doesn't bug me to pay $8 a drink at some bar.
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                                  • MMAbetMASTA
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                    He got paid, I'm not sure how much, but he was supposedly constantly on call.

                                    Also, if you make a big sportsbook cash in vegas always ask to be paid in chips. If they give you cash they have to file a CTR which is a big pain in the ass.
                                    very interesting, good to know thanks man..
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                                    • MMAbetMASTA
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                      Yep, but there are a few upsides too. I have stacks of drink tickets to every casino I frequent, so then the wife doesn't bug me to pay $8 a drink at some bar.
                                      That's what I would think but my boy who was playing mma at mgm the other weekend said he wasn't getting offered any drinks... he took about 1.4k from them and I asked if they offered any comps for such a win and he said they didn't offer him anything...

                                      Is it normal for you to get free drinks and / or comps for sportsbetting in casinos??? If so then yea that is a huge perk in my book as I can drop some serious cash on my drinking in vegas..
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                                      • The Fobfather
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                                        • 01-25-12
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                        He got paid, I'm not sure how much, but he was supposedly constantly on call.

                                        Also, if you make a big sportsbook cash in vegas always ask to be paid in chips. If they give you cash they have to file a CTR which is a big pain in the ass.
                                        Good advice!

                                        @Nunya does that mean that no matter how much $, if you ask for it in chips, no need for a CTR?
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                                        • NunyaBidness
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                          That's what I would think but my boy who was playing mma at mgm the other weekend said he wasn't getting offered any drinks... he took about 1.4k from them and I asked if they offered any comps for such a win and he said they didn't offer him anything...

                                          Is it normal for you to get free drinks and / or comps for sportsbetting in casinos??? If so then yea that is a huge perk in my book as I can drop some serious cash on my drinking in vegas..
                                          Every book will give you drink tickets if you ask when you place your bet. A normal bet of like 100-200 will usually get you 2. But I've had the teller hand me 15 or so for $1000+ bets. Ask when you place the bet not when you collect.

                                          I think a couple of the books will rate your play at the sportsbook (meaning, offer traditional comps), but if you're beating them longterm you don't really want to tell them who you are, so I would advise never showing your card there.

                                          (The only books that won't give you tickets are the ones that just let you drink for free by sitting in the sportsbook. I believe Rio is one of them.)
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                                          • NunyaBidness
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Fobfather
                                            Good advice!

                                            @Nunya does that mean that no matter how much $, if you ask for it in chips, no need for a CTR?
                                            yes, just make sure you cash the chips out slowly at the cage, sometimes those bitches like to file em too.
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                                            • MMAbetMASTA
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                              Every book will give you drink tickets if you ask when you place your bet. A normal bet of like 100-200 will usually get you 2. But I've had the teller hand me 15 or so for $1000+ bets. Ask when you place the bet not when you collect.

                                              I think a couple of the books will rate your play at the sportsbook (meaning, offer traditional comps), but if you're beating them longterm you don't really want to tell them who you are, so I would advise never showing your card there.
                                              I had no idea about any of this...this is really good advice, good stuff thanks bruddah...
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                                              • Crassus
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                                                #24
                                                Well that's a shame, I'm always a little leery of the legality of online betting and was hoping Vegas was going to be my safe haven once I felt like I wanted to dedicate enough funds to it for it to be worth it...perhaps Canada is a better bet.
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                                                • gabe
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                  Yep, but there are a few upsides too. I have stacks of drink tickets to every casino I frequent, so then the wife doesn't bug me to pay $8 a drink at some bar.
                                                  Those tickets are only valid for that day, I think.
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                    Those tickets are only valid for that day, I think.
                                                    nope, not at any of the places I play at.
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                                                    • getlucky2win
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                                                      #27
                                                      i live in vegas. the lvh takes huge bets. drink tickets only last a day and u usually got 2 ask 4 them
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                                                      • Ian
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                                                        #28
                                                        Cantor books hang lines on most of the card (with lots of juice). Wynn will hang lines on almost as many fights, but with lower juice.
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