UFC on FX 3

[gabe]

ended up throwing hecht in a couple parlays. if he loses, i think i'm down $90. meanwhile, am all in (thousands) on martinez and papazian. they better not do me dirty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Imsmarterthanu]

ended up throwing hecht in a couple parlays. if he loses, i think i'm down $90. meanwhile, am all in (thousands) on martinez and papazian. they better not do me dirty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where do you bet post tickets if you claim you're willing to throw down thousands on papazian and martinez post evidence, otherwise piss off imposter

[Vaughany]

Martinez also looked much bigger than bernardo.. Was having second thoughts about payng the juice on him at -200 but now feeling a little better after seeing those pics..

That is a lot of shoulder and back generated punching power for a thinner, leaner bernado to take....

My senior year of high school my friends and I used to get together and box in my backyard, and like an idiot my skinny 5'10 145lb ass stepped up to box my buddy mike who is 5'7 200 lbs and has some of the widest shoulders I've ever seen.

He laid me out in 20 seconds haha...

ha yeah Martinez looks much thicker

[Educ8d Degener8]

Really wanted to play Pierce + Rocha SOTN and/or Rocha sub but doesn't look like Dimes is offering SOTN props... or any props for Pierce-Rocha. I'm leaning Pierce -- Think folks are overvaluing Rocha's first round against Ellenberger a lil bit. Rocha does have reeedonkulous transitions and subs which is why I wanted to get a little SOTN action because if he grabs a sub, it may be a thing of beauty... ah well.

[Vaughany]

Really wanted to play Pierce + Rocha SOTN and/or Rocha sub but doesn't look like Dimes is offering SOTN props... or any props for Pierce-Rocha. I'm leaning Pierce -- Think folks are overvaluing Rocha's first round against Ellenberger a lil bit. Rocha does have reeedonkulous transitions and subs which is why I wanted to get a little SOTN action because if he grabs a sub, it may be a thing of beauty... ah well.

yeah they might add Rocha inside late on but doubt we'll get ROcha SOTN or even Rocha by sub

[illmatick]

So far I have plays on Buddy Roberts, Demetrious Johnson, Dustin Pague, Henery Martinez, and Lance Benoist.....probably gonna buy out if Seth closes as a dog.

[MMAbetMASTA]

So far I have plays on Buddy Roberts, Demetrious Johnson, Dustin Pague, Henery Martinez, and Lance Benoist.....probably gonna buy out if Seth closes as a dog.

Why do you like Pague, Ill?? You're the first person I've seen here taking him.... Gettin' me scurred!!!

[DeFactoCrippler]

Why do you like Pague, Ill?? You're the first person I've seen here taking him.... Gettin' me scurred!!!

I played Pague cause he is at +135 now. I feel just as comfortable playing Pague at this price as playing Papazian at say +110

[MMAbetMASTA]

Bernardo also a 2x ametuer boxing and muai thai champ???

Also, I read on some prediction article that in addition to being a renowned bjj artist, bernado is a ameuture boxing titlist and a two time muai thai champ???? Can anyone confirm this???

I've had second thoughts about martinez ever since I made the play (read some interesting things from bernardo backers saying he was on a serious 'off' night against means), and now that I'm reading this it really has me scared.

But then again this same prediction article (below) said salas is the superior striker lol and will outstrike means... and I also say a couple other things in the article that I really disagreed with so perhaps this guy is just talking out of his ass?

http://fightnetwork.com/news/31674:ufc-on-fx-3-preview-predictions/

[NunyaBidness]

Also, I read on some prediction article that in addition to being a renowned bjj artist, bernado is a ameuture boxing titlist and a two time muai thai champ???? Can anyone confirm this???

If he is, he sure hasn't shown it.

[Vaughany]

Also, I read on some prediction article that in addition to being a renowned bjj artist, bernado is a ameuture boxing titlist and a two time muai thai champ???? Can anyone confirm this???

I've had second thoughts about martinez ever since I made the play (read some interesting things from bernardo backers saying he was on a serious 'off' night against means), and now that I'm reading this it really has me scared.

But then again this same prediction article (below) said salas is the superior striker lol and will outstrike means... and I also say a couple other things in the article that I really disagreed with so perhaps this guy is just talking out of his ass?

http://fightnetwork.com/news/31674:u...w-predictions/

Bernardo who?! Far as im aware Bernardo Magalhaes competed in one pro-boxing fight against a nobody and it was a draw!

The guy has taken tht info from UFc.com profile....yes he won an amateur title but it was in some bumfuck fight nights promotion in australia

[MMAbetMASTA]

I played Pague cause he is at +135 now. I feel just as comfortable playing Pague at this price as playing Papazian at say +110

So just out of value is the only reason??

[MMAbetMASTA]

If he is, he sure hasn't shown it.

ha exactly... why I think this is bs and he's talking out of his ass / has the wrong info...

[MMAbetMASTA]

Bernardo who?! Far as im aware Bernardo Magalhaes competed in one pro-boxing fight against a nobody and it was a draw!

The guy has taken tht info from UFc.com profile....yes he won an amateur title but it was in some bumfuck fight nights promotion in australia

alright alright got yea, figured it couldn't be true wonder why he'd say that..

[DeFactoCrippler]

So just out of value is the only reason??

Yeah. So I guess that doesn't help you much. Just saying that may be why others are betting him as well. I originally liked papazian but no way I can play him at -155.

[gabe]

where do you bet post tickets if you claim you're willing to throw down thousands on papazian and martinez post evidence, otherwise piss off imposter

lol i'm just sitting here thinking about all the tickets you've posted

[gabe]

Yeah. So I guess that doesn't help you much. Just saying that may be why others are betting him as well. I originally liked papazian but no way I can play him at -155.

I was expecting him to open around -250, so I could certainly play him at -155. =)

[MMAbetMASTA]

I was expecting him to open around -250, so I could certainly play him at -155. =)

I capped him at -200 and played at -155, so I'm happy with it but for some reason I have bad gut feelings on both he and martinez... Not going huge, but if I lose either one or especially both I am gonna hve a really bad night which I can't take right now, so I really need to have these guys come through or else I'm in some trouble... Not to jinx any of this, just more skeptical and nervous on these two than usual.... And to see some people liking pague at +135 scares me I guess.

[gabe]

I capped him at -200 and played at -155, so I'm happy with it but for some reason I have bad gut feelings on both he and martinez... Not going huge, but if I lose either one or especially both I am gonna hve a really bad night which I can't take right now, so I really need to have these guys come through or else I'm in some trouble... Not to jinx any of this, just more skeptical and nervous on these two than usual.... And to see some people liking pague at +135 scares me I guess.

If either of them lose, I will have a very bad night, as well, but they are the two fighters on the card I am most confident in. I think the chances they lose are very small.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Yea I am more skeptical on martinez, and as long as papazian comes through I will be even or in profit.

Plus, people didn't really bring this up but jared's fight with jimmie 'el terror' rivera was damn close, many people thought papazian should have won the title in that for more damage and what not. I think rivera is the best 135er not in the ufc, and I also think beating cullum is a pretty big accomplishment as well. Put that in with the war with easton and I can't see pague giving papazian more trouble than any of these 3, as I think jared's past 3 opponents also beat pague... That's just mma math which usually don't mean shit but I think it works here and is my biggest reasoning for backing papazian.

[gabe]

Yea I am more skeptical on martinez, and as long as papazian comes through I will be even or in profit.

Plus, people didn't really bring this up but jared's fight with jimmie 'el terror' rivera was damn close, many people thought papazian should have won the title in that for more damage and what not. I think rivera is the best 135er not in the ufc, and I also think beating cullum is a pretty big accomplishment as well. Put that in with the war with easton and I can't see pague giving papazian more trouble than any of these 3, as I think jared's past 3 opponents also beat pague... That's just mma math which usually don't mean shit but I think it works here and is my biggest reasoning for backing papazian.

Yeah dude, Pague is an easy fight for him IMO-- I believe if we had seen them fight a couple more times in the UFC before this, the line would be more like -325/+245 or something like that...

I think it is an easy fight for Martinez, too, a little gift to get him on the W column, (I feel the same with the Papazian fight. They want him around, so they gave him an easy fight. They could have just cut Pague after his first loss) Only way Bernarndo wins is if Martinez is gassed out after the first round... With a full camp, I hope he will be in shape. Luca thinks with the weight cut, he will gas faster, but I hope it's the opposite... with a full camp, I hope he doesn't gas fast... I expect him to put Bernardo away early, but if not, manage to win 2 dominant rounds at least.

But you shouldn't really pay attention to what I say, since you think I'm full of shit.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Yeah dude, Pague is an easy fight for him IMO-- I believe if we had seen them fight a couple more times in the UFC before this, the line would be more like -325/+245 or something like that...

I think it is an easy fight for Martinez, too, a little gift to get him on the W column, (I feel the same with the Papazian fight. They want him around, so they gave him an easy fight. They could have just cut Pague after his first loss) Only way Bernarndo wins is if Martinez is gassed out after the first round... With a full camp, I hope he will be in shape. Luca thinks with the weight cut, he will gas faster, but I hope it's the opposite... with a full camp, I hope he doesn't gas fast... I expect him to put Bernardo away early, but if not, manage to win 2 dominant rounds at least.

But you shouldn't really pay attention to what I say, since you think I'm full of shit.

lol I think you're full of shit for other reasons, I've always said you have solid mma insight. I don't take oyu seriously when it comes to certain things and didn't bother to start looking at your thread again until a few weeks ago, but I've always noted points you make in these discussions on mma as I do think you have solid insight and opinions...

Let's not get into that anymore as we've both said our pieces and both went a little overboard... I feel bad in retrospect as its not my character to talk so much shit, but I said what I thought and its done with so let's leave it there. Its all gravy baby we have our differences, still don't like you all that much haha and I'm sure you don't like me, but in the meantime it can't hurt for us to bounce ideas off eachother, especially since we both have the same picks and both will be losing our asses if they don't come through. GL man.

[gabe]

lol I think you're full of shit for other reasons, I've always said you have solid mma insight. I don't take oyu seriously when it comes to certain things and didn't bother to start looking at your thread again until a few weeks ago, but I've always noted points you make in these discussions on mma as I do think you have solid insight and opinions...

Let's not get into that anymore as we've both said our pieces and both went a little overboard... I feel bad in retrospect as its not my character to talk so much shit, but I said what I thought and its done with so let's leave it there. Its all gravy baby we have our differences, still don't like you all that much haha and I'm sure you don't like me, but in the meantime it can't hurt for us to bounce ideas off eachother, especially since we both have the same picks and both will be losing our asses if they don't come through. GL man.

i like you ok, just defend myself when being accused of lying and anything else untrue.

you take me seriously w/ mma but not other things? lol when i'm posting here, i'm either talking MMA, defending myself, calling someone an idiot, or talking tv/movies. i hope my taste in tv comedies hasn't caused you to not take me seriously. lol

[gabe]

Also, on the Papa/Pague fight--

I think Papazian could easily beat John Albert, and John Albert easily beat Pague. Pague was a HUGE underdog against Albert, but is barely a dog against Papazian... I really love the line + chances w/ Papazian. I think people not pounding it are going to regret. I hope that's true and I don't end up being the one regretting... but yeah... have had my eye on this fight for a while, really hope I am right.

[Vaughany]

Yeah dude, Pague is an easy fight for him IMO-- I believe if we had seen them fight a couple more times in the UFC before this, the line would be more like -325/+245 or something like that...

I think it is an easy fight for Martinez, too, a little gift to get him on the W column, (I feel the same with the Papazian fight. They want him around, so they gave him an easy fight. They could have just cut Pague after his first loss) Only way Bernarndo wins is if Martinez is gassed out after the first round... With a full camp, I hope he will be in shape. Luca thinks with the weight cut, he will gas faster, but I hope it's the opposite... with a full camp, I hope he doesn't gas fast... I expect him to put Bernardo away early, but if not, manage to win 2 dominant rounds at least.

But you shouldn't really pay attention to what I say, since you think I'm full of shit.

I think the opposite as I believe 155 is closer to his optimum weight so think his cardio should be better. At 170 he is podgy, while his cut to 155 is not difficult...he was 163 over a week ago. He is intending to go to 145 in future which probably would drain him to a point where he gasses quicker, but at 155 im hoping its his optimal weight for getting best cardio (although obviously he'd have the size and strength advantage at 145lbs).

[MMAbetMASTA]

i like you ok, just defend myself when being accused of lying and anything else untrue.

you take me seriously w/ mma but not other things? lol when i'm posting here, i'm either talking MMA, defending myself, calling someone an idiot, or talking tv/movies. i hope my taste in tv comedies hasn't caused you to not take me seriously. lol

Fair enough, let's leave it here. I have yet to see your stand up or taste in comedies so I can't knock you for that, although I've read mixed opionns / reviews on here from other peopel haha...

As long as you like comedies such as East bound and down or south park we're on the same page..and if the Big Lebowski is one of your favorite comedies of all time then you're def chill

[MMAbetMASTA]

Also, on the Papa/Pague fight--

I think Papazian could easily beat John Albert, and John Albert easily beat Pague. Pague was a HUGE underdog against Albert, but is barely a dog against Papazian... I really love the line + chances w/ Papazian. I think people not pounding it are going to regret. I hope that's true and I don't end up being the one regretting... but yeah... have had my eye on this fight for a while, really hope I am right.

I'd agree, but its always hard for me to take quick finishes as a clear sign of a fighters potential / lack of potential... I take quick finishes with a grain of salt, as its hard to gauge where each guy is really at (unless the guy who is finishing always finishes guys fast or vice versa...)..

[gabe]

I'd agree, but its always hard for me to take quick finishes as a clear sign of a fighters potential / lack of potential... I take quick finishes with a grain of salt, as its hard to gauge where each guy is really at (unless the guy who is finishing always finishes guys fast or vice versa...)..

Well, forget that fight, and look at his fights on TUF... He's got some nice flashy moves, like flying knees, but that's about it. Hope Papa don't get caught!!!! He's got a good chin, but ya neva kno!

[gabe]

Fair enough, let's leave it here. I have yet to see your stand up or taste in comedies so I can't knock you for that, although I've read mixed opionns / reviews on here from other peopel haha...

As long as you like comedies such as East bound and down or south park we're on the same page..and if the Big Lebowski is one of your favorite comedies of all time then you're def chill

lol def one of my all time faves.

here's my standup:

only vid clip i have, friends phone

[NunyaBidness]

Also, on the Papa/Pague fight--

I think Papazian could easily beat John Albert, and John Albert easily beat Pague. Pague was a HUGE underdog against Albert, but is barely a dog against Papazian... I really love the line + chances w/ Papazian. I think people not pounding it are going to regret. I hope that's true and I don't end up being the one regretting... but yeah... have had my eye on this fight for a while, really hope I am right.

A > B > C doesn't really work in MMA

[gabe]

A > B > C doesn't really work in MMA

Not all the time, but certainly more often than not.

[FightFightFight]

Prague was actually a -200 or so fave vs Albert.

[gabe]

Prague was actually a -200 or so fave vs Albert.

I remember betting him as a big dog and losing... but you're right, Albert was the dog... I bet on him as a big fav and lost??? that's even worse!!!! lolll

still, though. i don't think pague is championship calibur, not sure if he's even ufc caliber, but i believe papazian could make a run for the title. he might drop to 125 though, so dunno which title he'll be after.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Prague was actually a -200 or so fave vs Albert.

yea even bigger I think I got albert at +265 in that if I recall correctly...

[MMAbetMASTA]

lol def one of my all time faves.

here's my standup:

only vid clip i have, friends phone

Not gonna lie its not bad at all, I got some laughs, interesting style of stand up you have... lol at the wow / mom ink on the cockk...

If you don't mind me asking, how much do they pay you for gigs like this?? Is it full time for you or just a thing on the side??