Tuf 15: Live

**Vitooch** · 05-18-12, 10:02 PM

Barao/Faber will be like Aldo/Faber II

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 05-24-12, 06:28 PM

**Luca Fury** · 05-24-12, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Barao/Faber will be like Aldo/Faber II

Barao is much slower than Aldo, though, and slows down after the second round. If he doesn't finish Faber within 2 rounds, Urijah's cardio very well could be the deciding factor.

And I'm saying this as someone who has always thought Faber is overrated.

**Vitooch** · 05-24-12, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by Luca Fury

Barao is much slower than Aldo, though, and slows down after the second round. If he doesn't finish Faber within 2 rounds, Urijah's cardio very well could be the deciding factor.

And I'm saying this as someone who has always thought Faber is overrated.

I'm looking forward to your next podcast

**Vitooch** · 05-24-12, 07:03 PM

I like Chiesa at dog odds. Reach wouldn' be nearly as big of a factor as it was with Vick/Proctor. If Chiesa can close the distance and pin Vick against the cage and work for takedowns, I could easily see this as a decision win for Chiesa.

Also, Al impressed me much more than Vinc. This will be an entertaining standup matchup, but Al seems more powerful and explosive. Would like to hear what you guys think (I've had no success capping TUF so far, mainly because I don't do enough research.)

**Luca Fury** · 05-24-12, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

I'm looking forward to your next podcast

Thanks!

**Mercersux** · 05-24-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Luca Fury

Thanks!

You have a podcast ? What is it? Maybe I'll check it out sometime.

**Imsmarterthanu** · 05-24-12, 09:44 PM

Al Iaquinta

**Luca Fury** · 05-24-12, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by Mercersux

You have a podcast ? What is it? Maybe I'll check it out sometime.

Yeah, our second episode, which featured a UFC 146 betting preview, was just posted. BetDSI relations made a thread on here about it: http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...ry.html?slf=60

You can also get it on iTunes, Stitcher and YouTube. Just search for "The MMA OddsCast"

**Premierr23** · 05-25-12, 11:34 AM

I like James Vick today. Vick has a big size advantage and his stand up game is significantly better. Chiesa looked extremely gassed in his last fight. I don't think this fight would be on the ground. Ill lay the juice here. opinions?

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-25-12, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

I like Chiesa at dog odds. Reach wouldn' be nearly as big of a factor as it was with Vick/Proctor. If Chiesa can close the distance and pin Vick against the cage and work for takedowns, I could easily see this as a decision win for Chiesa.

Also, Al impressed me much more than Vinc. This will be an entertaining standup matchup, but Al seems more powerful and explosive. Would like to hear what you guys think (I've had no success capping TUF so far, mainly because I don't do enough research.)

Ya I think I'm gonna take Al, but curious what you all think... surprised there's not more discussion on this one...?

I don't have much of a breakdown other than I think Al is better everywhere, although pichel seems to be tough as nails / great heart and has an underrated sub grappling game... But in the end I think al is just bigger, better and more well rounded. Comes from a great camp too. -185 isn't too bad me thinks... thoughts?

I like him as a fav more than vick just because I think chisea is the best wrestler vick's faced and I don't see this fight being any more difficult for chisea than the lawrence fight and he impressed even tho it was sloppy...

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-25-12, 05:48 PM

Ticket#:70250011
May 25 10:05 PM

INTERNET / -1

May 25 06:47 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24106] A IAQUINTA -185
(V PICHEL vrs A IAQUINTA)

185 / 100

**fosho14** · 05-25-12, 05:56 PM

I like vick here, he's really impressed me with his TDD and he's just looked really good in general but with these TUF guys you never know. If Chisea beats him I think he'll win the competition.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-25-12, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

I like vick here, he's really impressed me with his TDD and he's just looked really good in general but with these TUF guys you never know. If Chisea beats him I think he'll win the competition.

Yea I agree, I'm not downplaying vick at all, he's def improved the most like they were saying on the show and was the dark horse who has really emerged as a talent. I guess I just still have questions surrounding him, so when comparing the two favorites I got more confidence in picking Al. Hopefully I"m right! GL bruddah

**Kaladarus** · 05-25-12, 06:11 PM

I like the favorites here also think they should both hit. Small plays though because this is TUF.

**spurginobili** · 05-25-12, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Ticket#:70250011
May 25 10:05 PM

INTERNET / -1

May 25 06:47 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET
[24106] A IAQUINTA -185
(V PICHEL vrs A IAQUINTA)

185 / 100

I took Pichel.....should be a good fight.

Good Luck

**5mike5** · 05-25-12, 08:56 PM

just made a killing this season of TUF off longshots

not sure it keeps up tonight

**Thor4140** · 05-25-12, 09:07 PM

i like Vick a lot here. Vick has already shown he has very good takedown defence against Dokota to get in the house. His hands are ten times better than Chiesa. I just hope he watch Chiesa last fight and takes a few shots to his body. These MMA fighters are not the sharpest tools in the shed but hopefully he picked up on that. If Vick hits i may take a shot on the dog in the second fight. I think those two are pretty even.

**5mike5** · 05-25-12, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

just made a killing this season of TUF off longshots

just keeps ROLLING in

juiced favs on TUF are DOA

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 05-25-12, 09:29 PM

wow, Chiesa pulls it out

**BIGDAY** · 05-25-12, 09:38 PM

Chiesa is a survivor.

**MMAbetMASTA** · 05-25-12, 10:16 PM

Glad I went with Al, but man I thought vick looked like money out there, he almost had it... Chisea pulls it off again.

**Thor4140** · 05-25-12, 10:42 PM

i don't even know what happen. Vick gets taken down and it looks like the ffall hurt him and his feelings. I got to watch it again. Almost like as soon as he hit the mat he gave up

**Vitooch** · 05-25-12, 10:48 PM

Missed the Chiesa fight. Guess I will have to watch the replay later tonight. Didn't do so well in Bellator but 2-0 in TUF. A great night capping TUF is a first

**Luca Fury** · 05-25-12, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Missed the Chiesa fight. Guess I will have to watch the replay later tonight. Didn't do so well in Bellator but 2-0 in TUF. A great night capping TUF is a first

Chiesa was getting owned for 1.5 rounds, then finally got the takedown and finished via TKO. Big come from behind win for him, like his last fight.

I was close to betting Iaquinta and Vick, but ended up staying away from both. Glad I did.

**Wanna Bet On It?** · 05-26-12, 11:28 AM

Good ole' Dana

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