UFC on FX 2: Alves vs Kampmann

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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #106
    Im not so sure! What makes u think Cole will be nakkerd in third round? What fights has he shown poor cardio?
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #107
      Dont think Siler can submit Miller. Miller IMO has the ground skills of a black belt.
      He has put together some nice subs in his ufc career. I dont know how much the weight cut is going to affect him.
      But Miller is one that is PRO-Finish. I might play Cole inside (not ruling out a KO as he likes to stand)
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      • gabe
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        • 09-12-11
        • 7405

        #108
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Im not so sure! What makes u think Cole will be nakkerd in third round? What fights has he shown poor cardio?
        What makes you think I think Cole will be "nakkerd" in the third round?

        Because I said I could see it playing out that way means I think that's what will happen? On what planet?

        I never said he had poor-cardio, either. I said his cardio wasn't the greatest. Thank you for completely twisting my words around. His cardio isn't poor, but it isn't the greatest, either. I've seen him get tired after the first round. Not gassed out tired, but more tired than someone with great cardio would be. Just saying his gas tank might be questionable going into the third round at 145. Not that it will, but could be. Micah was surely out of gas in the third round, Cole cutting to 145 might have the same physical effect. We'll see.
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        • gabe
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          • 09-12-11
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          #109
          Yeah, Cole will probably finish it early.
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #110
            Originally posted by gabe
            What makes you think I think Cole will be "nakkerd" in the third round?

            Because I said I could see it playing out that way means I think that's what will happen? On what planet?

            I never said he had poor-cardio, either. I said his cardio wasn't the greatest. Thank you for completely twisting my words around. His cardio isn't poor, but it isn't the greatest, either. I've seen him get tired after the first round. Not gassed out tired, but more tired than someone with great cardio would be. Just saying his gas tank might be questionable going into the third round at 145. Not that it will, but could be. Micah was surely out of gas in the third round, Cole cutting to 145 might have the same physical effect. We'll see.
            Okay I see. But nakkered means tired, and u said he might be tired.
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            • Vaughany
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              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #111
              Craig +240 on sportsbook
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              • gabe
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                • 09-12-11
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                #112
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                Okay I see. But nakkered means tired, and u said he might be tired.
                yeah, with the cut, he might be tired in the 3rd.

                in his last fight, he was a little tired after rd 1, breathing with mouth open
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                • Beelzebubzy
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                  • 06-06-11
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                  #113
                  I dont think Cole will gas. He is a fellow Triathlete!
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                  • fosho14
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                    • 01-25-12
                    • 554

                    #114
                    The safest play on this card is a parlay of miller and te huna. I will be playing that large, and in my mind it is a no brainer as the best reccomended play. These are the top 2 fighters with the greatest chances of winning. Clearly the lines aren't as good as mcgee and alves, but the mcgee and alves bouts could easily go either way so I will leave those alone. Te huna/miller parlay all day = highest% chance of $$.

                    Also for strikeforce, souza, daley and kauffman will-not-lose. Unfortunate that the souza line is so steep, but for good reason, in fact he should be as much of a favorite as benavidez against this Bristol character.
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                    • Hannibal
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-15-11
                      • 1055

                      #115
                      Anyone like misaki here? +270 is tempting..
                      masaki has fought bigger, tough dude, hard to hit with a tricky striking style, well rounded and def a better grappler
                      is this at 170 or 85?
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                      • Hannibal
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-15-11
                        • 1055

                        #116
                        wrong thread lol
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                        • Vaughany
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                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #117
                          Welterweight bout
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                          • Vitooch
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-26-11
                            • 3470

                            #118
                            Benavidez, Jones, Rory Mcdonald, Brian Stann parlay!
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                            • MMAbetMASTA
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-24-11
                              • 1931

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Vitooch
                              Benavidez, Jones, Rory Mcdonald, Brian Stann parlay!
                              stann at -300 against sakara is crazy imo... And I know people are gonna hit that so I'm waiting to play sakara as a heavy dog.

                              Def has the chance to upset stann - I wouldn't call stann's striking much better than alessio's. Yet sakara's chin is pretty glassy, so I do think stann is the rightful favorite, but -300 is ridiculous for that style match up imo..either guy can get dropped and I do think someone is going down hard. Probably sakara will get ko'd, but def not worth paying that juice.
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                              • GunShard
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-05-10
                                • 10031

                                #120
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                                • Kaladarus
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                                  • 11-11-09
                                  • 1876

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                  stann at -300 against sakara is crazy imo... And I know people are gonna hit that so I'm waiting to play sakara as a heavy dog.

                                  Def has the chance to upset stann - I wouldn't call stann's striking much better than alessio's. Yet sakara's chin is pretty glassy, so I do think stann is the rightful favorite, but -300 is ridiculous for that style match up imo..either guy can get dropped and I do think someone is going down hard. Probably sakara will get ko'd, but def not worth paying that juice.
                                  I'm with you on this fight. Stann will probably get the win, but he doesn't deserve to be any where near the favorite he is in my opinion.
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                                  • MMAbetMASTA
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-24-11
                                    • 1931

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                    My UFC on FX 2 Plays
                                    Ticket#:66137674
                                    Mar 02 10:00 PM
                                    INTERNET / -1 Feb 26 01:06 PM
                                    MU
                                    STRAIGHT BET
                                    [24555] I MCCALL +290
                                    (I MCCALL vrs D JOHNSON)

                                    50 / 145
                                    ---------------------
                                    Ticket#:65429369
                                    Mar 02 10:30 PM
                                    INTERNET / -1 Feb 13 08:34 PM
                                    MU
                                    STRAIGHT BET
                                    [24551] T ALVES -135
                                    (T ALVES vrs M KAMPMANN)

                                    135 / 100

                                    Starting to like alves more than I initially thought when I placed this the other week. I'll Probably put a lot more on him after I do a bit more research. No way I see kapman beating him in a prolonged stand up fight, which is what I think we'll see.

                                    Also like the value on uncle creepy - mighty mo will probably be too fast and I think his wrestling is a small notch above ian's, but at +290 that is just crazy and mighty is being overvalued imo. Ian is also pretty big at 125 and his hands have developed very nicely during his most recent run. He could sprawl and brawl and perhaps even change levels later in the fight and sneak in a few tds ala brad pickettt. Paper pick is mighty mo but you're crazy to pay that juice imo.
                                    Adding:

                                    Ticket#:66284381
                                    Mar 02 07:55 PM
                                    INTERNET / -1 Mar 01 08:04 PM MU STRAIGHT BET
                                    [24572] N PENNER -130
                                    (A PEROSH vrs N PENNER)
                                    130 / 100
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                                    • MMAbetMASTA
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-24-11
                                      • 1931

                                      #123
                                      Don't know what's up with the formating from my copy and paste above, perhaps its because I just started using firefox, sorry for the choppy eye sore.


                                      I only played penner for a stupid reason - I haven't seen anything impressive from perosh in his ufc fights (not to discredit him).

                                      The two wins perosh got in zuffa he obviously got from getting those guys to the ground - but both guys kind of made mistakes and the td was a result. Penner has a wrestling background I guess and has since focused primarily on his stand up. While its a small record, he is undeafeated in 3 fights in both pro boxing and kickboxing. He seems to pack a punch and has great leg kicks too from what I have seen.

                                      He's fought more cans than perosh, as well - so what I have seen might not be spectacular as the comp is limited (in fact, penner's comp record is really really bad, can fiesta right there). So I am not taking penner's good record as too credible. However, I do think he is a big burly guy, seems to have competent wrestling, and I've gotta give him the stand up edge against perosh. Perosh seems to lose to guys he can't get down and gets beat up on the feet by.

                                      Penner has never fought a legit grappler, so I am def concerned and as such I wouldn't put much faith in playing him. There is no doubt in my mind that penner will probably be a fish out of water if perosh can get top control or back control on the ground.

                                      But the price is cheap and I am not really sold on the hippo in any real aspect of the fight game. He does have home turf, experience, much better comp, and a great bjj game, but I'm banking on penner to keep it upright and beat up the hippo on the feet. Overall not confident in this play, a bit on the degenerate side for me, but its cheap and I think any decent, well rounded fighter has a good chance to beat perosh.
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                                      • gabe
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-12-11
                                        • 7405

                                        #124
                                        i know one of you fanooks know how to read lips. what are these fools saying?:



                                        are they talking about grabbing a beer after the fight?
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                                        • gabe
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-12-11
                                          • 7405

                                          #125
                                          I'm gonna be playing Siler. I think it's possible he surprises everybody. Has done it twice, so far. Once to get into the house on TUF and once in his first fight on the octagon. Totally did not expect him to have such sick muay thai.
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                                          • GunShard
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-05-10
                                            • 10031

                                            #126
                                            I think Philippou could defeat McGee.
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                                            • illmatick
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                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 5456

                                              #127
                                              Nice Hydral glands. http://yfrog.com/od4xtavj
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                                              • Grabaka
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-19-11
                                                • 3216

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by illmatick
                                                Nice Hydral glands. http://yfrog.com/od4xtavj
                                                Is that Thiago?
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                  Is that Thiago?
                                                  yee Dolce knows his sh*t!
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                                                  • GunShard
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-05-10
                                                    • 10031

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by illmatick
                                                    Nice Hydral glands. http://yfrog.com/od4xtavj
                                                    That pic is today, he's 197.5 pounds on March 2nd. At the weigh ins on March 1st, he weigh 170.5.
                                                    weigh ins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAbke550VY8

                                                    Based on this, I think this could be a good bet on Alves.
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                                                    • gabe
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                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #131
                                                      Why were the weigh-ins Thursday instead of Friday?
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                                                      • gabe
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                                                        • 09-12-11
                                                        • 7405

                                                        #132
                                                        Oh sh*t, fights are Friday! LOL
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #133
                                                          yep due to time difference again. Housey vs Tate on sat night
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                                                          • Vitooch
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-26-11
                                                            • 3470

                                                            #134
                                                            Good luck tomorrow everyone. Havent really done any research (been busy studying for exams), but am leaning heavy on alves, and miller. Gotta disagree with you Gabe, siler is tough, gutsy young fighter with some strong technical skills standing and on the ground. However, i dont think he will be able to handle the much more experienced Miller. Miller is like a more mature, experienced and developed version of Siler actually. Siler was given a favorable, winnable fight at the finale. Dont take too much from tht matchup, as Suler gas never faced a fighter of Millers caliber. Siler/miller could be a back and forth banger, but Miller will get the better of The more green Siler. Siler will be tough to finish if this fight stays standing, but i just cant see him putting together a winning performance. A gutsy, performance, yes, but maybe not enough to pull off the upset.
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                                                            • gabe
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                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #135
                                                              I feel like the Strikeforce card is gonna be better for betting... so many close-call fights on the UFC card. even the big fav/big dog fights are a lot closer than the lines suggest.
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                                                              • Vitooch
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-26-11
                                                                • 3470

                                                                #136
                                                                Sorry ignore the typos there. I hate typing on my Iphone. By the way, what does everyone think of the Te Huna / Rosa fight. Im starting to have second thoughts. Te Huna at those odds make me a little hesitant. I havent really seen alot of Rosa at LHW, but does he really deserve this high of an underdog status?
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                                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                                  • 7237

                                                                  #137
                                                                  so this starts at 6:00pm today (Friday) time get back what was lost at 144
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                                                                  • rocky mattioli
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-26-10
                                                                    • 1263

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                                    Don't know what's up with the formating from my copy and paste above, perhaps its because I just started using firefox, sorry for the choppy eye sore.


                                                                    I only played penner for a stupid reason - I haven't seen anything impressive from perosh in his ufc fights (not to discredit him).

                                                                    The two wins perosh got in zuffa he obviously got from getting those guys to the ground - but both guys kind of made mistakes and the td was a result. Penner has a wrestling background I guess and has since focused primarily on his stand up. While its a small record, he is undeafeated in 3 fights in both pro boxing and kickboxing. He seems to pack a punch and has great leg kicks too from what I have seen.

                                                                    He's fought more cans than perosh, as well - so what I have seen might not be spectacular as the comp is limited (in fact, penner's comp record is really really bad, can fiesta right there). So I am not taking penner's good record as too credible. However, I do think he is a big burly guy, seems to have competent wrestling, and I've gotta give him the stand up edge against perosh. Perosh seems to lose to guys he can't get down and gets beat up on the feet by.

                                                                    Penner has never fought a legit grappler, so I am def concerned and as such I wouldn't put much faith in playing him. There is no doubt in my mind that penner will probably be a fish out of water if perosh can get top control or back control on the ground.

                                                                    But the price is cheap and I am not really sold on the hippo in any real aspect of the fight game. He does have home turf, experience, much better comp, and a great bjj game, but I'm banking on penner to keep it upright and beat up the hippo on the feet. Overall not confident in this play, a bit on the degenerate side for me, but its cheap and I think any decent, well rounded fighter has a good chance to beat perosh.
                                                                    not a big perosh guy either...i was impressed with what i saw of penner on video...he`s aggressive and nasty..strong with solid g&p.......but,perosh has homecourt and has a nice sub game.....i think if penner can keep it standing,he wins...he has to be very careful with perosh on the ground...

                                                                    i was wanting to take penner but not at - money...
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                                                                    • NunyaBidness
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                                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                                      • 9345

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                                      Oh sh*t, fights are Friday! LOL
                                                                      You'd have to be an idiot to think Gabe didn't know that already.
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                                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                                        • 9345

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Vitooch
                                                                        Sorry ignore the typos there. I hate typing on my Iphone. By the way, what does everyone think of the Te Huna / Rosa fight. Im starting to have second thoughts. Te Huna at those odds make me a little hesitant. I havent really seen alot of Rosa at LHW, but does he really deserve this high of an underdog status?
                                                                        Rosa is a decent, middle of the road, well rounded guy. If he survives the round 1 onslaught he has a chance. Unfortunately, he likes to clinch up and allow himself to be pressed into the cage. He could easily lose a decision while being the fresher fighter the last two rounds. It's a no play for me.
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