is belcher vs macdonald a tko or submission?

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  • sportsfanatic
    SBR MVP
    • 03-10-07
    • 3967

    #1
    is belcher vs macdonald a tko or submission?
    is a verbal submission due to punches a submission?
  • Kaladarus
    SBR MVP
    • 11-11-09
    • 1876

    #2
    should be yes
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    • v1y
      SBR MVP
      • 05-02-11
      • 1138

      #3
      5dimes says tko, and i pray they do not change their mind
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4
        My Belcher by TKO/KO play has been graded as a win on Sportbet (and rightly so I should say!)
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #5
          Originally posted by v1y
          5dimes says tko, and i pray they do not change their mind
          ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!
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          • v1y
            SBR MVP
            • 05-02-11
            • 1138

            #6
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!
            yes they can, but only if someone alerts them to it i figure lol.

            i alerted them once to an incorrect grading and tony personally gave me a $50 free play.
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            • Kaladarus
              SBR MVP
              • 11-11-09
              • 1876

              #7
              Originally posted by Vaughany
              ha yeah surely they can't just back-track and cancel it out?!
              They can and they probably will unless nobody bet Belcher by submission and nobody notifies them. The ref did announce it as a verbal submission due to punches. I would be surprised if 5dimes doesn't change this, but seeing as a few people need it to stay I hope they don't change the grading. According to 5dimes MMA rules this should be graded as a submission.
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              • Kaladarus
                SBR MVP
                • 11-11-09
                • 1876

                #8
                Yes, v1y is right. Someone's got to notify them otherwise they wont figure it out. Belcher by sub does seem like a stupid bet, but if someone had it they had good odds on it and will probably notify them.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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                  • terpkeg
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-26-09
                    • 2364

                    #10
                    Just noticed DSI changed my play. What a kick in the balls, Macdonald really verbally submitted? WTF, where is the ref stopping that shit anyway.

                    Atleast I noticed this now, would have been a real bitch reconciling my books at the end of the month. Never would have figured it out.
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                    • The HOFF
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-02-08
                      • 4847

                      #11
                      This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.
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                      • varkolek
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 07-17-11
                        • 230

                        #12
                        Originally posted by The HOFF
                        This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.
                        Yeah I lost a fair bit betting on Sadollah to KO Johnson. In this instance, I bet on Belcher-Macdonald under 1.5 rounds so was safe.
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                        • terpkeg
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-26-09
                          • 2364

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The HOFF
                          This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.
                          Yeah, if guy doesnt get off stool, it is a tko.
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                          • bogbat
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-21-10
                            • 1843

                            #14
                            fuckers only ever change it if it is in their favor. A few of us had Griggs by submission over V. Overeem at +1200 but of they graded it a TKO even though he tapped.
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                            • Chairib
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-08-10
                              • 917

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The HOFF
                              This rule needs to be changed not only in sportsbooks but with commissions too. A submission win should be from an actual submission. There is no difference in a ref stopping the fight from punches and the fighter quitting from punches.
                              Nope, he submitted to strikes. There's a big difference from a ref stopping and a fighter tapping due to strikes.
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