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  • The HOFF
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 4847

    #1
    UFC Fight Night 25
    Date: Sep 17, 2011
    Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
    Venue: Ernest N. Morial Convention Center
    Broadcast: Spike TV
    • Jake Ellenberger vs. Jake Shields
    • Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald
    • Court McGee vs. Dongi Yang
    • Jonathan Brookins vs. Erik Koch
    • Shamar Bailey vs. Evan Dunham
    • Clay Harvison vs. DaMarques Johnson
    • Cody McKenzie vs. Vagner Rocha
    • Mike Lullo vs. Mackens Semerzier
    • Ken Stone vs. Donny Walker
  • The HOFF
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 4847

    #2
    Jake Ellenberger +170
    Jake Shields -230


    Anyone else like Ellenberger at those odds? He has good power, gnp, and avoided subs by Rocha.
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    • snake11eyes
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-28-10
      • 618

      #3
      Originally posted by The HOFF
      Jake Ellenberger +170
      Jake Shields -230


      Anyone else like Ellenberger at those odds? He has good power, gnp, and avoided subs by Rocha.
      Sure do. I'll take a shot on Ellenberger. Never really that impressed with Shields. First glance I also like Dunham and Johnson. Brookins and Koch should be an awesome fight.
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      • v1y
        SBR MVP
        • 05-02-11
        • 1138

        #4
        i'll definitely be putting a tiny bit on ellenberger.
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        • The HOFF
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          • 07-02-08
          • 4847

          #5
          After signing a multi-fight deal with the UFC this past month, Lance Benoist is scheduled to fight Matt Riddle at "UFC Fight Night 25: Battle on the Bayou."

          UFC officials today announced the bout, though its placement on the event's fight card was not made official.
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          • THE_LOCKSMITH
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-25-08
            • 7237

            #6
            full card odds should be out any day now
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            • The HOFF
              SBR MVP
              • 07-02-08
              • 4847

              #7
              Couple out on Bookmaker.

              Dongi Yang +140
              Court McGee -170

              Jonathon Brookins +135
              Erich Koch -165

              Liking Yang and Koch there.
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              • terpkeg
                SBR MVP
                • 10-26-09
                • 2364

                #8
                Originally posted by The HOFF
                Couple out on Bookmaker.

                Dongi Yang +140
                Court McGee -170

                Jonathon Brookins +135
                Erich Koch -165

                Liking Yang and Koch there.
                Leaning same way myself, just pulled the trigger on Koch at -185 a little premature for my liking because I fear this will be on the move. Maybe up to -240. It's my own fault for not being ready to pounce on lines. Wanted to look into Brookins move down to 145 some more. I don't think it is going to be that beneficial here. If anything may hurt the stamina that seemed to be a strength of his. Don't think the wrestling is strong enough to control Koch.
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                • v1y
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-02-11
                  • 1138

                  #9
                  i changed my mind, shields has the value now lol.

                  also brookins/koch should be even odds. i'll take brookins for sure. also i think mcgee should be a bigger favourite.
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                  • gabe
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                    • 09-12-11
                    • 7405

                    #10
                    where'd you get those lines? i can't find 'em anywhere. looking for the dunham/bailey fight line.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gabe
                      where'd you get those lines? i can't find 'em anywhere. looking for the dunham/bailey fight line.
                      Bookmaker. Undercard aren't out yet
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                      • v1y
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 1138

                        #12
                        Originally posted by gabe
                        where'd you get those lines? i can't find 'em anywhere. looking for the dunham/bailey fight line.
                        yeah pretty much everyone is hoping to get dunham at -400 lol.
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                        • Semt3x
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 09-10-11
                          • 104

                          #13
                          Just at first glance
                          I'm liking Dunham, Johnson, Rocha, Ellenberger
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Semt3x
                            Just at first glance
                            I'm liking Dunham, Johnson, Rocha, Ellenberger
                            Johnson?
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                            • bjpenn85
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-17-11
                              • 5059

                              #15
                              i cant find any johnson. second time someone mention a johnson....there is no johnson
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #16
                                ha Damarques pulled out of the Harvison fight
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                                • gabe
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-12-11
                                  • 7405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by v1y
                                  yeah pretty much everyone is hoping to get dunham at -400 lol.
                                  lol i was hoping for -200
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                                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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                                    • 08-25-08
                                    • 7237

                                    #18
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                                    • BIGDAY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 02-17-10
                                      • 48245

                                      #19
                                      Mcgee should be able to take down Yang at will imo.
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                                      • sirchadwick1
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-02-10
                                        • 1375

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                        Mcgee should be able to take down Yang at will imo.
                                        Agreed. I really like McGee here, especially at -150 which is where he stands now at 5-dimes.
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                                        • Spaceman Spiff
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 09-09-11
                                          • 87

                                          #21
                                          Anyone see Brookins having a chance at Koch?
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                                          • Vaughany
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 03-07-10
                                            • 45563

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
                                            Anyone see Brookins having a chance at Koch?
                                            Certainly better than the +175 odds that he was at on 5dimes/sportbet. Unsurprisingly this is down to +155 now. Koch may well go in to this overly-confident after his two KO of the Nights and be to desperate to get the one punch KO. He certainly can do it as Brookins defence is mediocre, but Brookins has a solid chin, great cardio and is quick.
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                                            • rocky mattioli
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-26-10
                                              • 1263

                                              #23
                                              agreed...mcghee all the way...very favorable line,imo...
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                                              • MMAbetMASTA
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-24-11
                                                • 1931

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                Certainly better than the +175 odds that he was at on 5dimes/sportbet. Unsurprisingly this is down to +155 now. Koch may well go in to this overly-confident after his two KO of the Nights and be to desperate to get the one punch KO. He certainly can do it as Brookins defence is mediocre, but Brookins has a solid chin, great cardio and is quick.
                                                Yea I agree.... I pick koch, but those odds are too pricey for him and I see small upset value on brookins. However, I'll say that the mendes / koch fight tells a lot... koch had great scrambling ability and was able to get up to his feet multiple times when taken down, and stuffed some too... I have a hard time seeing brookins as a better wrestler than mendes, but you never know. Brookins has a lot of heart and goes for it, relentless cardio and great transistions, which are hard to bet against. If his defense was bettter on the feet as some other poster said, I'd likely lean toward brookins. However, I think koch is the real deal and his tdd/defensive grappling seems quite good, he's also solid with submisssions too.. certainly over valued tho as people are saying.

                                                I'm liking court for sure. Liking ellenberger and lopez too (curious what his odds might be against edwards..). If evan is under -270 I kinda like it, but I expect him to be high as V1y said and I'm not paying that juice.

                                                Also for you guys liking rocha, you care to break that down? I see the big picture, but I'm curious why you guys really like him or what your breakdown is... From what I know I like him too in this one (as cody is all over the place and we know his big asset, and rocha should obviously be better rolling around), but I'm wondering the details of your reasoning... cheers and GL!
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                                                • ghost kid
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 09-23-08
                                                  • 280

                                                  #25
                                                  blah

                                                  not a thrilling card

                                                  leaving Spike with a wimper....few more events to go....
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                                                  • Semt3x
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 09-10-11
                                                    • 104

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    ha Damarques pulled out of the Harvison fight
                                                    Yeah i just noticed that hah the OP got me confused
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                                                    • gabe
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #27
                                                      I think it's a great card. Don't like Dunham at -400, though. Shouldn't be lower than -350.
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                                                      • ghost kid
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 09-23-08
                                                        • 280

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                        I think it's a great card. Don't like Dunham at -400, though. Shouldn't be lower than -350.
                                                        Then bet the other side.
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                                                        • gabe
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-12-11
                                                          • 7405

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ghost kid
                                                          Then bet the other side.
                                                          No, Dunham is my biggest lock on this card, the juice is just higher than I expected. Especially since he's fighting a bigger dude.
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                                                          • Grabaka
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-19-11
                                                            • 3216

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by gabe
                                                            No, Dunham is my biggest lock on this card, the juice is just higher than I expected. Especially since he's fighting a bigger dude.
                                                            Gabe....are you the gabe i know?
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                                                            • NunyaBidness
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-26-09
                                                              • 9345

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ghost kid
                                                              Then bet the other side.
                                                              Just because you think someone is overpriced means you should automatically bet the other side, there is vig. That's why you can't fade every bad capper and expect to win.
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                                                              • ghost kid
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                                                                • 09-23-08
                                                                • 280

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                Just because you think someone is overpriced means you should automatically bet the other side, there is vig. That's why you can't fade every bad capper and expect to win.



                                                                Thanks for the gambling lesson. Clearly my first post was a bit misunderstood. Sarcasm guys. Sarcasm.

                                                                My point was Dunham is priced right. Nevermind. Good grief.
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                                                                • NunyaBidness
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-26-09
                                                                  • 9345

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ghost kid


                                                                  Thanks for the gambling lesson. Clearly my first post was a bit misunderstood. Sarcasm guys. Sarcasm.

                                                                  My point was Dunham is priced right. Nevermind. Good grief.

                                                                  Your welcome. You could use an English lesson as well.
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                                                                  • gabe
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                                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                                    • 7405

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                                    Gabe....are you the gabe i know?
                                                                    don't think so.
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                                                                    • spargament
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-22-09
                                                                      • 1739

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I hate Shields but you guys are nuts if you think he won't clown Ellenberger.
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