GSP Opens At -425 vs Nick Diaz +325

**Shane** · 05-23-11, 10:03 PM

How does everyone see this line moving in the months to come? Is now the best time to jump on Diaz, or should I wait?

**Hannibal** · 05-23-11, 10:08 PM

I dont see GSP getting worse that -425, so you should not wait. But personally, I wouldn't want my money locked up for so long.

**jin2daj** · 05-23-11, 11:06 PM

im gonna hammer gsp. i think this is a EZ fight for him. what does nick diaz have to offer???

**NickDiaz209** · 05-23-11, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by jin2daj

im gonna hammer gsp. i think this is a EZ fight for him. what does nick diaz have to offer???

Never bet against Nick Diaz...NEVER

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**Vaughany** · 05-24-11, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by NickDiaz209

Never bet against Nick Diaz...NEVER

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Even against Sherk, Parisyan and Sanchez?

**NickDiaz209** · 05-24-11, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Even against Sherk, Parisyan and Sanchez?

Yeah lets bring up fights from 5+ years ago...that's equivalent to me saying Canderson is a can because he lost to Ryo Chonan or GSP losing more recently to Serra. Both you and I know that if Diaz gets his title shot that betting on him is of incredible value because of his toughness. Try to be less of a troll...that's my job

**Vaughany** · 05-24-11, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by NickDiaz209

Yeah lets bring up fights from 5+ years ago...that's equivalent to me saying Canderson is a can because he lost to Ryo Chonan or GSP losing more recently to Serra. Both you and I know that if Diaz gets his title shot that betting on him is of incredible value because of his toughness. Try to be less of a troll...that's my job

You put "NEVER bet against Nick Diaz... NEVER" so it is you who is bringing up the past because "NEVER" implies anything that has ever happened or is happening or will happen (past, present, future). So saying never bet agaisnt Nick Diaz makes no sense!

**Pabinator** · 05-24-11, 11:19 AM

I think Diaz is way better than Shields, especially in stand up. I honestly think this will be a decent fight, GSP wins, but much closer than people think. I am looking forward to this one

**NickDiaz209** · 05-24-11, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

You put "NEVER bet against Nick Diaz... NEVER" so it is you who is bringing up the past because "NEVER" implies anything that has ever happened or is happening or will happen (past, present, future). So saying never bet agaisnt Nick Diaz makes no sense!

Never, from now on

**Vaughany** · 05-24-11, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by NickDiaz209

Never, from now on

Fair enough!

**snake11eyes** · 05-24-11, 07:43 PM

This line is set correct. gsp will win as usual by taking diaz down every round, but who wants to risk that much on a fight so far away.

**RaiderNation MMA** · 05-24-11, 10:57 PM

i dont think the wrestling game plan is going to work for 5 rounds. diaz is pretty slick off his back.

**FindTheLock** · 05-27-11, 04:04 AM

Interesting fight for sure. Diaz possesses a very balanced arsenal of weapons, but I don't give him more than a punchers chance against GSP. GSP is too patient and Diaz is too reckless. One thing is for sure though, the way Diaz pushes the pace of the fights he's in I think that GSP will have to stop Diaz in order to win this match up. That could be good for the fans!

**Jordan23** · 05-27-11, 12:51 PM

This line sounds about right to me. I'm hoping Nick can make it an exciting fight.

**JMUplayer** · 05-27-11, 01:50 PM

-425 is a gift if that's accurate..... 1% chance GSP loses.... at best.
Who has Nick Diaz fought that's good?

**Ladle** · 05-27-11, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by JMUplayer

-425 is a gift if that's accurate..... 1% chance GSP loses.... at best.
Who has Nick Diaz fought that's good?

1% at best? You might as well bet the farm on GSP then!

**FindTheLock** · 05-27-11, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Ladle

1% at best? You might as well bet the farm on GSP then!

I am not going to give a % on the chances of a fighter winning a fight, but who do you like in this match up and how do you see it going down?

**Ladle** · 05-27-11, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

I am not going to give a % on the chances of a fighter winning a fight, but who do you like in this match up and how do you see it going down?

I think Diaz's porous defensive wrestling will be exploited repeatedly. I also expect GSP's top game to neutralise Diaz's bottom game for the most part.

That said, someone as aggressive and durable as Diaz will always have a better than 1% chance of winning. This isn't Dan Hardy we're talking about.

**FindTheLock** · 05-27-11, 08:05 PM

I agree I give him a little bit better than a punchers chance since he is well rounded both standing and on the ground, but do you think there might be a stoppage finally for GSP? Or do you have it going to the judges? I think GSP will have to get a stoppage in a 5 round fight with Diaz, because I think Diaz will get frustrated at some point leading to some sloppy hay-makers. I just think GSP is too good at everything to lose to a hot head like Diaz, but like you said a fighter like Diaz can win against anyone on the right day under the right circumstances.

**Ladle** · 05-27-11, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

I agree I give him a little bit better than a punchers chance since he is well rounded both standing and on the ground, but do you think there might be a stoppage finally for GSP? Or do you have it going to the judges? I think GSP will have to get a stoppage in a 5 round fight with Diaz, because I think Diaz will get frustrated at some point leading to some sloppy hay-makers. I just think GSP is too good at everything to lose to a hot head like Diaz, but like you said a fighter like Diaz can win against anyone on the right day under the right circumstances.

I think it goes to the judges. St-Pierre's jiu-jitsu is a little clunky so I can't imagine him tapping Diaz. As for a T/KO finish? Very unlikely. Diaz's chin is fantastic, and his ability to recover is even better. You can crack him, drop him, but the moment he hits the deck he's straight back in the fight. GSP would essentially have to do what Jeremy Jackson did: unload with a chain-gun flurry of punches until the referee stepped in. I don't see that happening.

**urge2kill** · 05-28-11, 12:02 AM

LMAO at 1%.

**ttrace35** · 05-28-11, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by urge2kill

LMAO at 1%.

^this

**urge2kill** · 06-01-11, 08:46 PM

GSP vs Diaz is set for UFC 137 on October 29th.

**NickDiaz209** · 06-02-11, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by JMUplayer

-425 is a gift if that's accurate..... 1% chance GSP loses.... at best. Who has Nick Diaz fought that's good?

Paul Daley. A better striker than anyone GSP has fought...get his balls out of your mouth. Diaz has three ways to win the fight. GSP has one, and that's lay n pray. GSP's a sissy who eeks out decisions and uses the rules and his athleticism to avoid actually fighting. Diaz is a real fighter who will knock you out or submit you, always pressing the action and being the aggressor. If Diaz wins it will be a huge victory for the sport on so many levels. GSP could barely outstrike Shields, one of the worst strikers in MMA. GSP will not hurt Diaz...his only hope is to take him down and prevent a fight from actually taking place by laying on him.

**NickDiaz209** · 06-02-11, 11:48 AM

GSP has accomplished a lot, but no one realizes that he's regressing. If GSP lost one more round he would've lost to Shields (48-47 on two scorecards). He was lucky to have landed a shot that blinded Koscheck (who also has no stand-up), but still couldn't finish him, and he didn't lay a scratch on Can Hardy, who got KO'd by Carlos Condit of all people. He beat up on a much smaller BJ Penn with grease on his body and Fitch has no stand up whatsoever. Diaz is actually a balanced, underrated fighter. Very dangerous fight for the homosexual Canadian

**Vaughany** · 06-02-11, 11:54 AM

Not to be pedantic but I'd argue tht Thiago Alves is a better striker than Daley!

**san2c** · 06-02-11, 12:08 PM

id take GSP at these odds but i am with the previous poster, I can't have chalk money tied up this long!

**Camdemonium** · 06-02-11, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by NickDiaz209

Paul Daley. A better striker than anyone GSP has fought...get his balls out of your mouth. Diaz has three ways to win the fight. GSP has one, and that's lay n pray. GSP's a sissy who eeks out decisions and uses the rules and his athleticism to avoid actually fighting. Diaz is a real fighter who will knock you out or submit you, always pressing the action and being the aggressor. If Diaz wins it will be a huge victory for the sport on so many levels. GSP could barely outstrike Shields, one of the worst strikers in MMA. GSP will not hurt Diaz...his only hope is to take him down and prevent a fight from actually taking place by laying on him.

Penn is a pretty good striker, as are Hardy and Thiago Alves.I think you need to get Diaz's balls out of your mouth. No balls in mouths for anyone, unless of course you are homosexual. Then it's ok.

**Pabinator** · 06-02-11, 01:16 PM

Are they going to promote this as a Strikeforce vs UFC champ event???

**ttrace35** · 06-02-11, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Camdemonium

Penn is a pretty good striker, as are Hardy and Thiago Alves.I think you need to get Diaz's balls out of your mouth. No balls in mouths for anyone, unless of course you are homosexual. Then it's ok.

I have to agree with nick. Gsp is boring. If diaz is champ, its better for the sport. Actually could have an exciting champ. Gsp will probably win a boring decision.

**GoldRush7** · 06-02-11, 03:02 PM

this fight is going to be another 5 round snoozefest. I do not see GSP finishing Diaz and vice versa

**Wrecked** · 06-02-11, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by NickDiaz209

Yeah lets bring up fights from 5+ years ago...that's equivalent to me saying Canderson is a can because he lost to Ryo Chonan or GSP losing more recently to Serra. Both you and I know that if Diaz gets his title shot that betting on him is of incredible value because of his toughness. Try to be less of a troll...that's my job

Hop off of Diaz's dick. He almost got his head taken off by Daily. Daily would have taken that fight if Big John didn't get a hard-on and stop the fight while Daily was covering up in the last five seconds of the first round. Not to mention Koscheck sat on Davis for 3 rounds, was never damaged by him (not even his sucker punch), but your boy Diaz was dropped by him...TWICE? Oh yeah, twice. What a champ.

He's going to go his has dropped and sat on for 5 rounds Dan Hardy style.

Actually I take that back, I think GSP is going to go for the knockout, because he hasn't finished a fight in so long, and Nick Diaz is a pussy.

Oh and btw, I hate GSP. So I hope GSP loses, but you can't ignore the cold hard facts.

**ttrace35** · 06-02-11, 09:30 PM

Who is davis? goddam noobs are back.

**jspectyper** · 06-03-11, 02:04 AM

Really looking forward to this fight, gsp will take diaz down because if diaz has a weak point its against wrestlers but I'm glad someone will push the pace and force gsp to fight. I got a feeling well see gsp get take diaz down and diaz will start talking trash to gsp.