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  • playa420
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-09-08
    • 881

    #1
    Rampage +105
    Rampage +105: First off, I cant believe how ****ing soft this line is, rampage should be at least -200 and now the books have him as a dog.Rampage is pound for pound one of the best fighters in the world. He has vicious KO power and good wrestling. Rampage has faced and beaten some of the best competition in the world.Evans on the other hand is a fake ass fighter who hasnt done shit in the ufc.In his first title defense he got KTFO and in his last fight he got rocked late and wasnt very impressive.Rashad isnt on Rampages level, and hes getting knocked CLEAN OUT!!!!
  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #2
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    • Collecting
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-02-09
      • 370

      #3
      Everyone's concerned with the time that Rampage has taken off, and been out of the ring... Hes never really been a workout champ, + with the time off we'll see how he handles it.
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4
        Either Quittin or Rashad at better than evens is only worth betting on...otherwise ther's no point...might as well go for red on roulette (no racism intended)!
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        • playa420
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-09-08
          • 881

          #5
          Originally posted by Collecting
          Everyone's concerned with the time that Rampage has taken off, and been out of the ring... Hes never really been a workout champ, + with the time off we'll see how he handles it.

          At this point in Rampages career with almost 40 fights and over 10 years in the game, some time off will be a good thing for him. If he was coming off a layoff due to an injury id be alot more worried.
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          • Jrod124
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-31-09
            • 5622

            #6
            Loved this at -120 if I can get +105 I would be even more excited
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            • Cappy
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-26-08
              • 784

              #7
              I love rampage, but I don't know, I don't think that you can say that he should be -200
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              • THE_LOCKSMITH
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-25-08
                • 7237

                #8
                close fight but i'm leaning with Rashad, I don't think Rampage wants to fight anymore. Looked bad against Forrest, was fortunate Wandy stood in the pocket and traded with him (rashad will move). His last fight was over a year ago a unimpressive win over Jardine who seems to get ko'd by everyone
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                • vassman86
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-11-08
                  • 1042

                  #9
                  I'm a big Rashad fan, but I think Rampage's experience will prove to be the difference.
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                  • westerner
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-02-10
                    • 164

                    #10
                    the bookies know whats up, and with all the Rampage retards out there they should be making a lot of coin with that line. I don't think this fight is that competitive, Rashad takes it as he can control the fight standing or grappling.
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                    • brooks85
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #11
                      so how much are you betting on rashad then westerner?

                      lol rashad can take it standing or grappling, that is just dumb to say, especially with him going against rampage. Rashad is not a striker. If you think he is, i suggest you rewatch his fights, especially the one with chuck, since chuck WON the first round. Then, of course, there is thiago. A guy who had a injured spine and rashad still did not stand a chance on the feet. And barely could hold thiago down.
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                      • playa420
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 03-09-08
                        • 881

                        #12
                        Originally posted by westerner
                        the bookies know whats up, and with all the Rampage retards out there they should be making a lot of coin with that line. I don't think this fight is that competitive, Rashad takes it as he can control the fight standing or grappling.
                        Rashad cant control shit, Rampage is gonna be able to stop his takedowns and expose his weak ass chin. This is just a tune up fight for rampage before he gets a shot at the title.
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                        • westerner
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 05-02-10
                          • 164

                          #13
                          Originally posted by playa420
                          Rashad cant control shit, Rampage is gonna be able to stop his takedowns and expose his weak ass chin. This is just a tune up fight for rampage before he gets a shot at the title.
                          Rashad didn't try to takedown Chuck and that worked out fine. He also ate a few clean power right hands and left hooks from Chuck and he was fine. It took the best striker 2 flurries in a row to KO Rashad while he was already off balance. So no, saying Rashad has a weak chin is pretty much a discrediting of yourself. Rampage is strong but he is not fast, and he is not technical nor does he have as many tools as Rashad.


                          Want to see what happens when a guy with more tools (like Rashad) fights a guy with less but more refined tools (Rampage)? Watch Shogun KO Machida. That KO was a direct result of the fact Machida had to gameplan for way more things than Shogun did. This fight is gonna be similar, Rashad has too many tools, and also Rampage is with a crappy gym.

                          I'm not even a Rashad fan I just know that Rampage is a douche, he was a primadonna when he was staying in my city, being a douche to my friend on set, and he's a guy who has a history of quitting in fights and on his trainers. He has no class. Regardless of what I think its Rashad's fight to lose in reality and I don't see him losing it.
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                          • playa420
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-09-08
                            • 881

                            #14
                            Originally posted by westerner
                            Rashad didn't try to takedown Chuck and that worked out fine. He also ate a few clean power right hands and left hooks from Chuck and he was fine. It took the best striker 2 flurries in a row to KO Rashad while he was already off balance. So no, saying Rashad has a weak chin is pretty much a discrediting of yourself. Rampage is strong but he is not fast, and he is not technical nor does he have as many tools as Rashad.


                            Want to see what happens when a guy with more tools (like Rashad) fights a guy with less but more refined tools (Rampage)? Watch Shogun KO Machida. That KO was a direct result of the fact Machida had to gameplan for way more things than Shogun did. This fight is gonna be similar, Rashad has too many tools, and also Rampage is with a crappy gym.

                            I'm not even a Rashad fan I just know that Rampage is a douche, he was a primadonna when he was staying in my city, being a douche to my friend on set, and he's a guy who has a history of quitting in fights and on his trainers. He has no class. Regardless of what I think its Rashad's fight to lose in reality and I don't see him losing it.
                            Machida is a good striker,but hes not exactly known for having KO punching power. In rashads last fight he got got rocked by a shot from silva, but silva was injured and couldnt defend the takedown.Your machida/ shogun analogy doesnt make any sense, machida had just as many tools as shogun and even got a couple of takedowns before getting caught.Rampage has just as many tools as Rashad. Rashad has the better wretling,but rampage has the better boxing.Rampage can defend the takedown and go for the KO or get some takedowns of his own and do some ground and pound.
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                            • Tree Rollins
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-16-09
                              • 3968

                              #15
                              Playa, i wouldn't pay much attention to westerner. This is the same guy who said Rashad Evans was quicker and more athletic then Jon Jones.

                              (here comes the part where westerner reads this post and replies by going off about how he can't believe i said Jon Jones is a better fighter then Rashad Evans and Rashad would kick his ass, even though i didn't say anything like that)
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                              • sundin4prez
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 1970

                                #16
                                all things aside like rampages layoff etc. i love rashad in this match.... i dont know why he doesent get much love either be the loss to machida, getting wobbled by silva or he general attitude but rashad is a very game fighter.... i can see rashad getting the best of the exchanges on the feet and i can see him taking rampage down a couple times later in the fight...
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                                • The HOFF
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-02-08
                                  • 4847

                                  #17
                                  With everything to consider I think this is a no play. Takedowns, chin, time off, and one thing I think everyone is overlooking... the emotion that is going into this fight. Who can keep their emotions in check to fight a smart fight. Who knows, they may just run at each other and just have an all out brawl.
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                                  • solepride
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-22-09
                                    • 108

                                    #18
                                    Rampage takes this one
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                                    • dooman14
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 12-23-09
                                      • 263

                                      #19
                                      fight fight fight
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                                      • 36mafia
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-08-09
                                        • 2389

                                        #20
                                        deja vu.


                                        suggested laying $$ on suga rashad when he was a dog @ +135 a few months back
                                        nothins changed except theres no value on either line now
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                                        • Tree Rollins
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-16-09
                                          • 3968

                                          #21
                                          My prediction- Rashad tries to stick and move and does a lot of circling and staying away early. He'll probably try a couple takedowns early, if he gets stuffed he'll spend most of the fight running and dancing like a pussy, hoping that Rampage gets tired and he can take him down in the later rounds and lay on him until the fight's over.
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                                          • Tree Rollins
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-16-09
                                            • 3968

                                            #22
                                            Rashad strategy = take rampage down and don't pass his guard.
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                                            • 36mafia
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-08-09
                                              • 2389

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                              Playa, i wouldn't pay much attention to westerner. This is the same guy who said Rashad Evans was quicker and more athletic then Jon Jones.

                                              (here comes the part where westerner reads this post and replies by going off about how he can't believe i said Jon Jones is a better fighter then Rashad Evans and Rashad would kick his ass, even though i didn't say anything like that)
                                              Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                                              My prediction- Rashad tries to stick and move and does a lot of circling and staying away early. He'll probably try a couple takedowns early, if he gets stuffed he'll spend most of the fight running and dancing like a pussy, hoping that Rampage gets tired and he can take him down in the later rounds and lay on him until the fight's over.

                                              solid fight/fighter breakdown and analysis
                                              gameplan actually sounds like a winner..







                                              suga rashad by sub +948 @5dimes
                                              ya heard it here first folks
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                                              • JuicedUp
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-20-10
                                                • 3396

                                                #24
                                                can't get a read on this... but I hope rampage runs through this little beotch.
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                                                • 36mafia
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-08-09
                                                  • 2389

                                                  #25
                                                  all my hopes and dreams for a fighter i will never know on a personal level go out the window when theres money to be made
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                                                  • JuicedUp
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-20-10
                                                    • 3396

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 36mafia
                                                    all my hopes and dreams for a fighter i will never know on a personal level go out the window when theres money to be made
                                                    yea I want rampage to win so I am staying away from this fight altogether.
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                                                    • stefan084
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-21-09
                                                      • 1490

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The HOFF
                                                      With everything to consider I think this is a no play. Takedowns, chin, time off, and one thing I think everyone is overlooking... the emotion that is going into this fight. Who can keep their emotions in check to fight a smart fight. Who knows, they may just run at each other and just have an all out brawl.
                                                      exactly--stay away from this fight. way too much emotion to know who will handle it better. also rampages time off (does it hurt or help?) too many vaiables for me ...just my 2 cents
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                                                      • will2survive
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-26-09
                                                        • 8099

                                                        #28
                                                        Rampage will win. I GUARANTEE IT
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                                                        • 36mafia
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-08-09
                                                          • 2389

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JuicedUp
                                                          yea I want rampage to win so I am staying away from this fight altogether.
                                                          same with my local teams: cowboys, mavs, rangers, stars. when im on them they never show up, when its a no play they pull it off and cover

                                                          bittersweet
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                                                          • 36mafia
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 11-08-09
                                                            • 2389

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stefan084
                                                            exactly--stay away from this fight. way too much emotion to know who will handle it better. also rampages time off (does it hurt or help?) too many vaiables for me ...just my 2 cents
                                                            the emotional aspect is something ive been thinking about for quite some time. believe rampage said it best when he categorized rashad as an athlete instead of a fighter, and that suits him. he knows how to handle himself, stick to the gameplan, and lets not forget rashad was a former juco national champ and d1 wrestler. competing in amateur wrestling at one of the highest stages of the game you have to know when's the right and wrong time to let your emotions get to you.

                                                            regardless of how retarded trees post was, he actually had a point. rashad is a counter fighter. he's going to be patient. he's going to move in and out. he's going to circle, bob, and weave. and most likely hes going to pinch his nipples and dance around to provoke rampage and get him out of his game.

                                                            rampage, i like the dude, but he got into a car chase after he lost the belt, and more recently he broke the door of TUF
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                                                            • Collecting
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 12-02-09
                                                              • 370

                                                              #31
                                                              Im thinking the best bet on this fight is into a case of beer, and just sitting back and watching it. Dont really see alot of value on either side as it really could go either way.
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                                                              • Ian
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-09-09
                                                                • 6072

                                                                #32
                                                                Where did you see +105? I did a lot of looking and couldn't find better than +100.
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                                                                • cky312
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-22-09
                                                                  • 197

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ian
                                                                  Where did you see +105? I did a lot of looking and couldn't find better than +100.
                                                                  You missed it, Bookmaker had Quinton at +105 on I think Saturday or Sunday
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                                                                  • Straight Cash
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-20-09
                                                                    • 2202

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I'd love to see it at +105, not sure i will...
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                                                                    • playa420
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 03-09-08
                                                                      • 881

                                                                      #35
                                                                      It was +105 at bookmaker yesterday, you can still find him at even or -105, which is still a really sweet deal
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