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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #1
    UFC WelterWeight Division
    After UFC 111 there is no clear #1 contender for GSP's title. Who should be next for GSP and what matchup should be made to find a contender?

    UFC 113 Daley/Koscheck
    UFC 114 Sanchez/Hathaway
    UFC 115 Thiago/Kampmann and Condit/MacDonald

    Fighters with no current matches

    Jon Fitch
    Dan Hardy
    Thiago Alves
    Anthony Johnson
    Mike Swick
    Jake Shields (likely to sign UFC after Henderson fight)
  • playa420
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-09-08
    • 881

    #2
    The winner of Daley/Koscheck vs Fitch would be a good match for the #1 contender spot.
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    • 36mafia
      Restricted User
      • 11-08-09
      • 2389

      #3
      theres been rumors of kos/daley winner to be tuf coach opposite of gsp
      but man, theres no fight for gsp at 170 we havent seen before. id really like to see him move up 185
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      • cky312
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-22-09
        • 197

        #4
        I think only thing left for him at welterweight right now is perhaps a season of TUF, other than that the weight class needs at least a year+ to develop legitimate contenders for GSP. If he wants a real fight he's got to bump up to middleweight, but if he does I really hope he doesn't fight Anderson right away if they can sign Anderson to a new contract.

        Also you guys forgot Almeida for this weight class
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #5
          Thiago is gonna beat Kampmann easily so he will get GSP next most probly. Imagine a primetime going round with THiago in the favelas!
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          • sketch80823
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-26-10
            • 671

            #6
            too bad bjpenns from hawaii aint on the card
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 7237

              #7
              Originally posted by sketch80823
              too bad bjpenns from hawaii aint on the card
              on what card?
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              • GoldRush7
                SBR MVP
                • 04-27-09
                • 2014

                #8
                he has pretty much cleaned out this division... don't know if there will be anyone that can contend with him for awhile
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                • kahnner
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 11-01-09
                  • 281

                  #9
                  Is preatty simple, nobody can compete with him at 170, he has destroyed all the top contenders. He needs to move up a weight class and test himself!
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                  • THE_LOCKSMITH
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-25-08
                    • 7237

                    #10
                    well after UFC 115 the division is a bit more clear we now have a contender for GSP, but there have been some upset in the divsion Kampmann/thiago Hathaway/sanchez.

                    upcoming WW fights

                    UFC 117
                    Fitch/Alves
                    Hughes/Almedia

                    UFC???
                    GSP/Koscheck

                    With UFC 120 taking place in England it is likley they will put both top English WW on the card Hardy and Hathaway. Let the matchmaking begin

                    recent winners: Kampmann, Condit, Hathaway, Kim, Shields??
                    recent losers: Hardy, Thiago, Sanchez, Johnson, Swick, MacDonald
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                    • JuicedUp
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-20-10
                      • 3396

                      #11
                      I'm afraid it's going to be Fitch.
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                      • Eccocide
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 2126

                        #12
                        I read that Kampmann wants to fight Hardy at UFC 120. Claude Patrick says he wants to fight Kim. I'd be interested in Condit vs. Sanchez if Diego decides to stay up at 170lb, although they have been matching up winners vs. winners more often now.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #13
                          id like to see a condit/kampmann rematch, sanchez vs hardy and patrick vs kim
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                          • Chairib
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 03-08-10
                            • 917

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Thiago is gonna beat Kampmann easily so he will get GSP next most probly. Imagine a primetime going round with THiago in the favelas!
                            Such a dumbass
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                            • Chairib
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 03-08-10
                              • 917

                              #15
                              If GSP gets past Kos, then he'll probably take on the winner of Fitch/Alves.
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                              • Straight Cash
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-20-09
                                • 2202

                                #16
                                Lot of good fighters in the division, 1 great one.
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                                • sundin4prez
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-09-10
                                  • 1970

                                  #17
                                  i heard on bloodeyelbow that kampman might be fighting hardy in england ..... i see this going the same way as the kampman daley fight....
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                                  • vassman86
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-11-08
                                    • 1042

                                    #18
                                    Kampmann vs Hardy would be good to watch.
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #19
                                      Hardy vs Kampmann and Hathaway vs Condit at 120 would be awesome! Kurt Warburton who beat Ross Pearson early in their careers will also be making his debut at 120 along with Paul Sass of Team Kaoben...he is 10-0 with 9 submission wins, all 7 of his first wins came from triangle chokes...hence the nickname Sassangle...remember the names!
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                                      • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-25-08
                                        • 7237

                                        #20
                                        Dan Hardy Vs Carlos Condit set for UFC 120 in London

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                                        • stefan084
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-21-09
                                          • 1490

                                          #21
                                          i like Hardy a lot in that fight both striking wise and on the ground
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                                          • NOLA42
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-27-10
                                            • 243

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                            Dan Hardy Vs Carlos Condit set for UFC 120 in London http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...1900&zoneid=13

                                            Thats gonna be a good fight
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #23
                                              Big fan of both fighters...only give Hardy the edge because of Home advantage! I imagine Hardy will be 4/5 maybe 4/6 and Condit around Evens?
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                                              • Shane
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-28-10
                                                • 466

                                                #24
                                                Fun looking fight.
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                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                  • 7237

                                                  #25
                                                  well from UFC 117-121 there have been some good welterweight fights and the title picture looks clear for at least one fight agead and thats winner ofGSP/Koscheck will fight Jake Shields

                                                  upcoming notable fights:
                                                  UFC 123
                                                  Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn
                                                  UFC 124
                                                  Georges St-Pierre vs. Josh Koscheck
                                                  Thiago Alves vs. John Howard
                                                  UFC 125
                                                  Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim

                                                  recent welterwight results

                                                  Jake Shields def. Martin Kampmann
                                                  Diego Sanchez def. Paulo Thiago
                                                  Carlos Condit def. Dan Hardy
                                                  Mike Pyle def. John Hathaway
                                                  Chris Lytle def. Matt Serra
                                                  Nate Diaz def. Marcus Davis
                                                  Jon Fitch def. Thiago Alves
                                                  Matt Hughes def. Ricardo Almeida
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                                                  • brooks85
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 44709

                                                    #26
                                                    diaz is fulfilling my prophecy on his entry into WW, I said he would get 2 wins vs strikers and then he would lose against a wrestler/grappler. Should get a good number on stungun, really wish the stungun/hathaway fight happened.

                                                    and I hope they do condit/kampmann 2 next but it will probably be shields
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      diaz is fulfilling my prophecy on his entry into WW, I said he would get 2 wins vs strikers and then he would lose against a wrestler/grappler. Should get a good number on stungun, really wish the stungun/hathaway fight happened.

                                                      and I hope they do condit/kampmann 2 next but it will probably be shields
                                                      I agree Brooks, I like Stungun in this one, think he can smother Diaz to a decision win. Isnt Shields pretty much guaranteed GSP next? More likely to be Condit/Kampmann 2 or Condit vs Pyle or Lytle I reckon.
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                                                      • cky312
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 12-22-09
                                                        • 197

                                                        #28
                                                        Not confirmed but sure seems like a deal
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                                                        • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-25-08
                                                          • 7237

                                                          #29
                                                          With Shileds getting the shot i'm curious to see what they will do with Fitch. The guy is 13-1 inf the UFC and take away that loss to GSP and he has 21 straight wins Do they risk putting in a guy like Condit and killing a possible future match with GSP if Fitch grinds out a win like he usually does
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                                                          • Vaughany
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 03-07-10
                                                            • 45563

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                            With Shileds getting the shot i'm curious to see what they will do with Fitch. The guy is 13-1 inf the UFC and take away that loss to GSP and he has 21 straight wins Do they risk putting in a guy like Condit and killing a possible future match with GSP if Fitch grinds out a win like he usually does
                                                            Give Fitch Mike Pyle or move him up to middleweight I guess!
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                                                            • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-25-08
                                                              • 7237

                                                              #31
                                                              Well another dominant win for GSP over Koscheck. The welterweight division is still very ineresting with BJ moving up and some fighters getting some big wins. Here are some matches that are cominf up and then some fights i think would make sense
                                                              UFC 125
                                                              Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim

                                                              UFC 127
                                                              Jon Fitch vs. B.J. Penn
                                                              Carlos Condit vs. Chris Lytle

                                                              UFC on Versus 3
                                                              Martin Kampmann vs. Diego Sanchez

                                                              possible next matches

                                                              GSP/Shields
                                                              Koscheck/Hardy
                                                              Alves/A Johnson
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #32
                                                                They'll probly do Howard vs A.Johnson due to the beef they have! Also, although Kos vs Hardy would be very marketable because they also have 'beef', I dont think the UFC would want Hardy having an inevitable 3rd loss in a row on his record, they probly want him to get a win before facing Kos but then there arent many guys in the welterweight division that Hardy could beat for sure. IMO a Kos/Hardy fight would just be very similar to Kos/Daley except Hardy proby wouldnt sucker punch Kos after! Claude Patrick is also coming up and hasnt got a fight scheduled yet, and Pyle and Hathaway.
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hardy vs P.Thiago or Matt Hughes maybe? If he gets Kos or Ellenberger Im gonna be going big on either of them!
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                                                                  • Poppa Catfish
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                    • 3352

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Howard vs AJ would be a great fight! Hardy vs Thiago sounds very likely

                                                                    Would love to see Hardy vs Alves
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                                                                    • Poppa Catfish
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-22-10
                                                                      • 3352

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Please give Hughes a fight with Hallman and let the poor guy retire, Hardy vs Hughes would be unfair. I don't need to see one of those K-1 type retirement fights.
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