UFC 104 Rumors/Discussion

Eccocide · 10-16-09, 10:38 PM

Ya thats pretty unreal Hoff. Couple guys like that who balloon up ridiculous amounts of weight when they aren't training like Forrest. Rampage too.....fat bastards!

The HOFF · 10-17-09, 02:14 AM

Well I wasn't going to lay -300 on Johnson in the first place, but this makes it a serious no-no.

illmatick · 10-18-09, 12:58 AM

I was thinking about playing yoshida as well, man I can't remember having this much trouble locking up plays for an event, 104 is just not doing it for me betting wise, thinking about just laying the chalk on valezquez, already have a small play locked up on sonnen but dont feel too confident with the play

stefan084 · 10-18-09, 11:37 PM

I've been waiting for the Machida fight --I see this fight as extremely lopsided in favor of the dragon. i actually think -450 is cheap for what we will see on Saturday

lorraineperla · 10-19-09, 12:32 AM

Shogun's next chance was also a chance to avenge his earlier loss to Mark Coleman. This time UFC fans had a chance to see two well known fighters almost not make it to the end of the fight due to exhaustion. "Fight of the Night" or not, nothing overly impressed me here except the fact that someone actually won before I fell asleep. I was beginning to wonder if Shogun was just collecting the cheques and finishing out a contract before retiring. Then came Liddell. The Iceman was out in the first round due to Shogun's big left hook and a flurry of hammer fists. This was getting back on track, even if it was against a fading Liddell.

illmatick · 10-19-09, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by lorraineperla

Shogun's next chance was also a chance to avenge his earlier loss to Mark Coleman. This time UFC fans had a chance to see two well known fighters almost not make it to the end of the fight due to exhaustion. "Fight of the Night" or not, nothing overly impressed me here except the fact that someone actually won before I fell asleep. I was beginning to wonder if Shogun was just collecting the cheques and finishing out a contract before retiring. Then came Liddell. The Iceman was out in the first round due to Shogun's big left hook and a flurry of hammer fists. This was getting back on track, even if it was against a fading Liddell.

this post just blew my mind, somehow you managed to put me in a trance

Astrodust3 · 10-19-09, 04:18 AM

Surprised no one mentioned Ben Rothwell. Personally of all the people that are most likely to upset, I'd say it was him.

RobbReport · 10-19-09, 05:22 AM

you guys are crazy if you think Yoshida will beat Johnson. Johnson is a wrestler, they can cut weight at will. He will Tommy Speer Yoshida.

brooks85 · 10-19-09, 12:13 PM

ya i agree robb. The weight cutting is nothing new to johnson.

Boddhissatva · 10-19-09, 12:20 PM

Anthony Johson has an incredible sprawl and can smell take down attempts a mile away.

If Koscheck can KTFO Yoshida...I'm pretty damn sure Anthony Johnson can do the same...

it is also possible that yoshida has learned some stand up...but I seek Johnson getting another highlight reel KO.

But the more and more I think about it...Rothwell might be the underdog I wager on this Saturday....

the man is incredibly strong, has decent stand up...and a good ground game...

the man just might be too big and strong for a smaller, quicker Velasquez.

We all saw the Kongo fight. and I think we can all agree that Kongo had it a better ground game would have won that fight.

I still see Velasquez winning...but Rothwell demonstrated in his fight with AA that he can take an incredibly amount of punishment before losing.

The HOFF · 10-19-09, 01:49 PM

5 days until the fight and they still haven't released odds for the full card. WTF?

Bread · 10-19-09, 02:38 PM

Hoff come on down Saturday. Pizza and beer on me.

The HOFF · 10-19-09, 02:42 PM

Do you think I can get a plane ticket with SBR points?

Bread · 10-19-09, 03:10 PM

LOL...How did you think I was paying for the pizza??

Bread · 10-20-09, 11:51 AM

When are they posting odds for full card already?? I have some tournaments to draw up.

The HOFF · 10-20-09, 03:38 PM

Any one else watch the UFC 104 Countdown show? This shit is ridiculous. I can't believe I watched the whole thing.

They make everyone's life so dramatic and talk about shit that has nothing to do with fighting. Oh my God! Rothwell was picked on in grade school and that drove him to be one of the greatest heavyweights ever! Why do I watch this shit??

RobbReport · 10-20-09, 04:03 PM

I still didn't see it yet. i love watching the countdowns because you get a glimpse into training camp and the fighters mentality before a fight. It usually is misleading and obviously meant to be, but if you pick up on the right cues you can pick the winners.

Bread · 10-20-09, 04:15 PM

davewaz · 10-20-09, 05:22 PM

I like Shogun with the odds where they are at the moment

Eccocide · 10-20-09, 05:23 PM

LOL! I actually enjoyed the countdown...Although I wish Shogun would have gotten some more air time. Plus Machida training in the Jungles of Brazil? Tell me that wasn't pure badass!

The HOFF · 10-21-09, 06:26 PM

Mauricio Rua +325
Lyoto Machida -405

Ben Rothwell +255
Cain Velasquez -310

Chael Sonnen +180
Yushin Okami -220

Yoshiyuki Yoshida +265
Anthony Johnson -325

Josh Neer +120
Gleison Tibau -150

Spencer Fisher +205
Joe Stevenson -255

Pat Barry -105
Antoni Hardonk -125

Jorge Rivera +120
Rob Kimmons -150

Eric Schafer +325
Ryan Bader -405

Razak Al-Hussan +110
Kyle Kingsbury -140

Stefan Struve +180
Chase Gormley -220

illmatick · 10-21-09, 06:40 PM

thinking about adding Chase Gormley and Tibau

illmatick · 10-23-09, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

If the machida line breaks into -300s id cry with joy.

machida -375 at Bodog

The HOFF · 10-23-09, 06:29 PM

Anthony Johnson came in at 6 pounds overweight!!

Eccocide · 10-23-09, 06:30 PM

Ya i just posted in my thread that I'm hoping he just decided he couldnt do it rather than sauna'ing himself to death and still coming in that much over....that fat bastard is going to screw me.

The HOFF · 10-23-09, 06:34 PM

A pound or two is one thing, but 6!!!!!!!! They immediately said he couldn't lose anymore so he must have been trying for awhile. I'm staying away.

Eccocide · 10-23-09, 06:37 PM

I may hedge with Yoshida inside the distance paying +490. Im thinking if he's gunna win he'll get a submission after Johnson gasses...gotta think about it some more.

Bread · 10-23-09, 07:07 PM

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooo YO!

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