UFC on ESPN+ 2: Assuncao vs. Moraes 2 (February 02, 2019)

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  • TPowell
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    • 02-21-08
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    #106
    My early leans below. May be off as lines were from yesterday/early today

    Griffin ML -200 (Huge mismatch here as Alves is too small, slow, and no gas tank to threaten a high IQ fighter like Max who has a ton of length and some solid boxing, especially on the counter. His TDD is improving but his offensive wrestling is certainly capable of taking advantage of guys with weaker TDD. Alves struggled a ton with Millender's reach and I think he'll have trouble keeping this fight in the clinch which is his only option to win IMO)

    Santos -3.5 no price yet (Santos has fought CANS when you look at her opponents records but one of the girls just won a fight on DWCS and Santos looked amazing going three rounds with good cardio and excellent striking, including some vicious leg kicks. She has showcased good fight IQ previously and her sprawl looked pretty good as well. She has own private D1 wrestling coach from what I've been told which is HUGE. Borrela has an awful chin and awful standup in general. Her only chance in the standup is to hope the other girl isn't aggressive and just bide time until she can take the fight to the ground. She's physically strong for 125 but she's scared to death of getting hit and Santos should have no problem picking her apart)

    Albini ML -120 (This is an ugly looking fight on paper and not a fight to go big on but Albini has shown he has some BJJ when on top of opponents and Jair makes no bones about the fact that he has no ground game. He's a pro kickboxer who went to a split decision against a tiny Russian in his only real competitive fight. He has a solid jab and using leg kicks/knees well but he doesn't have a ton of power like you'd expect by looking at this guy or his record. The other problem is he fights at the same VERY slow pace in almost all of his fights. If Albini gets a TD, this fight is more than likely over by stoppage. If not, Albini still may have the better of it power wise on the feet. I think Albini's chin may be better and I think Jair will fade badly)
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    • TPowell
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      • 02-21-08
      • 18842

      #107
      I also like the ever dropping ML on Hernandez (down to -155). Perez is a guy that can't beat anyone decent unless he locks up a sub. The problem is his wrestling definitely isn't elite. He's pretty small comparatively for this division and his fight IQ is awful as well. He's entertaining for sure, but he's very hittable and his cardio isn't up to snuff either. On the bright side, the guy has a lot of heart and toughness to go with an above average plus chin and his ground game is certainly up to par. I just think Hernandez is much better on the feet and if the fight hits the mat, he's a black belt in BJJ and has some great chokes to go with solid cardio for a young prospect. His win over Brendan was a real eye opener to me.
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      • TPowell
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        • 02-21-08
        • 18842

        #108
        Interesting, I see a lot of Perez love on here and Twitter. I'll probably wait until fight night to see what this line closes
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        • Shagdogy
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          • 06-16-10
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          #109
          Originally posted by TPowell
          I also like the ever dropping ML on Hernandez (down to -155). Perez is a guy that can't beat anyone decent unless he locks up a sub. The problem is his wrestling definitely isn't elite. He's pretty small comparatively for this division and his fight IQ is awful as well. He's entertaining for sure, but he's very hittable and his cardio isn't up to snuff either. On the bright side, the guy has a lot of heart and toughness to go with an above average plus chin and his ground game is certainly up to par. I just think Hernandez is much better on the feet and if the fight hits the mat, he's a black belt in BJJ and has some great chokes to go with solid cardio for a young prospect. His win over Brendan was a real eye opener to me.
          Win over Allen was eye opening in terms of how he let himself get mounted or have his back taken approximately 45 times in 5 rounds? There’s a shelf life on that kind of stuff, black belt or not he’s getting subbed one of these days unless he cleans that up.
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          • TPowell
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            • 02-21-08
            • 18842

            #110
            Originally posted by Shagdogy
            Win over Allen was eye opening in terms of how he let himself get mounted or have his back taken approximately 45 times in 5 rounds? There’s a shelf life on that kind of stuff, black belt or not he’s getting subbed one of these days unless he cleans that up.
            After 1.5 rounds, Perez won't have the cardio to tap the guy from anywhere IMO
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            • Shagdogy
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              • 06-16-10
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              #111
              Originally posted by TPowell
              After 1.5 rounds, Perez won't have the cardio to tap the guy from anywhere IMO
              How many times was Hernandez mounted or had his back taken in the first 1.5 rounds vs Allen? Only 15? All I’m saying is he can’t be that sloppy for long. He needs to start prioritizing position. Perez can squeeze, and if Hernandez has this belief he can’t be subbed someone is eventually gonna prove him wrong. Maybe it’ll be Perez. Maybe it won’t. He’s capable though.
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              • TPowell
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                • 02-21-08
                • 18842

                #112
                First pick of the card is up for me with a decent length write-up

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                • Hugo de Naranja
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                  • 04-14-16
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by TPowell
                  First pick of the card is up for me with a decent length write-up

                  https://www.betmma.tips/TPowell90
                  Hey T, glad to see you back. I don't think there will be a line for Santos -3.5. They haven't been doing point spreads for a lot of the chick fights recently.
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                  • bjpenn85
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                    • 02-17-11
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                    #114
                    perez beat heinich, certainly way better opposition than hernandez has ever fought. But he beat him by sub, not a 3.round decision, which would have been more legit.
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                    • turbozed
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                      • 10-15-08
                      • 2435

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                      Hey T, glad to see you back. I don't think there will be a line for Santos -3.5. They haven't been doing point spreads for a lot of the chick fights recently.
                      Kind of odd since there's a point spread for the Souza/Frota matchup. Santos/Borella seems to be the only matchup without one. Maybe whoever made the lines just forgot.
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                      • Teem
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                        • 04-11-17
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        First pick of the card is up for me with a decent length write-up

                        https://www.betmma.tips/TPowell90
                        Where can I see the write-up? That link takes me to your bettingtips page.
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                        • Teem
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                          • 04-11-17
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                          #117
                          Ledet is a flat earther haha.
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            • 08-29-08
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                            #118
                            #1) UFC Fighting
                            Selection : M. Moraes 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -160 for Game

                            #2) UFC Fighting
                            Selection : R. Moicano 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -140 for Game

                            #3) UFC Fighting
                            Selection : J. Walker 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -205 for Game

                            #4) UFC Fighting
                            Selection : J. Albini 2/2/2019 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -115 for Game

                            Risking : 105.95 To Win : 715.01 USD

                            CASH IT
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                            • Teem
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                              • 04-11-17
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                              #1) UFC Fighting
                              Selection : M. Moraes 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -160 for Game

                              #2) UFC Fighting
                              Selection : R. Moicano 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -140 for Game

                              #3) UFC Fighting
                              Selection : J. Walker 2/2/2019 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -205 for Game

                              #4) UFC Fighting
                              Selection : J. Albini 2/2/2019 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -115 for Game

                              Risking : 105.95 To Win : 715.01 USD

                              CASH IT
                              Good luck! I'm on Moraes and Walker as well. Taking Aldo. My gut was telling me Albini but people keep persuading me not to take him haha. Figured I just avoid that low level hw fight altogether.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                • 08-29-08
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                                #120
                                Honestly....I wish I could pull Moicano out LOL.....he is more skilled than aldo but I always find myself cheering for Aldo and he COULD pull it off......GL this weekend TEEM
                                Originally posted by Teem
                                Good luck! I'm on Moraes and Walker as well. Taking Aldo. My gut was telling me Albini but people keep persuading me not to take him haha. Figured I just avoid that low level hw fight altogether.
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                                • PaperTrail07
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                                  • 08-29-08
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                                  #121
                                  Albini bet is more of a fade of the other guy and the back to the wall theory that huge hates LOL....in 2018 he SPLIT and had a KO win over a guy who lost his last 5...not impressed w the level of competition he is facing.....toss in some ring rust and Albini might TKO his ass lol...
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                                  • Teem
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                                    • 04-11-17
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                                    #122
                                    Will probably be on Maia and Griffin as well.
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      • 08-29-08
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                                      #123
                                      Have A weird feeling that Good is gonna TKO maia.....Love Maia...but he is getting old and good is a beast physically..but I don't blame you for betting him.....I might just pass...if Usman...Colby and Woodley couldn't do it.....be wild to imagine good doing it....
                                      Originally posted by Teem
                                      Will probably be on Maia and Griffin as well.
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                                      • Shagdogy
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                                        • 06-16-10
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        Have A weird feeling that Good is gonna TKO maia.....Love Maia...but he is getting old and good is a beast physically..but I don't blame you for betting him.....I might just pass...if Usman...Colby and Woodley couldn't do it.....be wild to imagine good doing it....
                                        Woodley maybe, but Colby and Usman not KOing someone hardly means anything.
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                                        • kcchiefs
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                                          • 09-05-13
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                                          #125
                                          Early leans on Oliviera and Walker
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                                          • Teem
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                                            • 04-11-17
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                                            #126
                                            If you guys had to pick between Griffin, Maia, or Walker to throw into a parlay with Aldo who would it be?
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                                            • jacharron17
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                                              • 01-22-19
                                              • 261

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Teem
                                              If you guys had to pick between Griffin, Maia, or Walker to throw into a parlay with Aldo who would it be?
                                              I would pick Max Griffin. He should get a clear decision win or late finish over Alves.
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                                              • turbozed
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                                                • 10-15-08
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by Teem
                                                Where can I see the write-up? That link takes me to your bettingtips page.
                                                There's a little notepad icon next to the pick. If you click on that, you get breakdowns and notes for the pick.
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                                                • Teem
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                                                  • 04-11-17
                                                  • 343

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by turbozed
                                                  There's a little notepad icon next to the pick. If you click on that, you get breakdowns and notes for the pick.
                                                  Nice, thanks turbozed
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                                                  • TPowell
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                                                    • 02-21-08
                                                    • 18842

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    Hey T, glad to see you back. I don't think there will be a line for Santos -3.5. They haven't been doing point spreads for a lot of the chick fights recently.
                                                    Damn, that was going to be one of my favorite plays. Will probably parlay her with Mag now.
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                                                    • TPowell
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-21-08
                                                      • 18842

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Teem
                                                      If you guys had to pick between Griffin, Maia, or Walker to throw into a parlay with Aldo who would it be?
                                                      Def max between those three.
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                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                        • 02-17-11
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                                        My early leans below. May be off as lines were from yesterday/early today

                                                        Griffin ML -200 (Huge mismatch here as Alves is too small, slow, and no gas tank to threaten a high IQ fighter like Max who has a ton of length and some solid boxing, especially on the counter. His TDD is improving but his offensive wrestling is certainly capable of taking advantage of guys with weaker TDD. Alves struggled a ton with Millender's reach and I think he'll have trouble keeping this fight in the clinch which is his only option to win IMO)

                                                        Santos -3.5 no price yet (Santos has fought CANS when you look at her opponents records but one of the girls just won a fight on DWCS and Santos looked amazing going three rounds with good cardio and excellent striking, including some vicious leg kicks. She has showcased good fight IQ previously and her sprawl looked pretty good as well. She has own private D1 wrestling coach from what I've been told which is HUGE. Borrela has an awful chin and awful standup in general. Her only chance in the standup is to hope the other girl isn't aggressive and just bide time until she can take the fight to the ground. She's physically strong for 125 but she's scared to death of getting hit and Santos should have no problem picking her apart)

                                                        Albini ML -120 (This is an ugly looking fight on paper and not a fight to go big on but Albini has shown he has some BJJ when on top of opponents and Jair makes no bones about the fact that he has no ground game. He's a pro kickboxer who went to a split decision against a tiny Russian in his only real competitive fight. He has a solid jab and using leg kicks/knees well but he doesn't have a ton of power like you'd expect by looking at this guy or his record. The other problem is he fights at the same VERY slow pace in almost all of his fights. If Albini gets a TD, this fight is more than likely over by stoppage. If not, Albini still may have the better of it power wise on the feet. I think Albini's chin may be better and I think Jair will fade badly)
                                                        I see a quite close fight with Griffin edging Alves out on the feet. Is it fair to highlight that Alves struggled a ton with Millenders reach, without mentioning how much Griffin also? I mean, off course, Griffin is the one with the reach, but. Griffin looked really bad in that fight. Alves did at least have some moments in the 2.round, it almost seemed like he had figured out Millender a little bit, before he was KO.

                                                        If this is the case, how is this then a mismatch? Its not like alves looked that bad against kuchenko either.

                                                        Who else, rather than Alves do you see Griffin beat in the future? How good is Griffin really? I dont know, i just struggle to understand where he fits. I started watching tape to bet on Griffin, but didnt fall in love.
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                                                        • turbozed
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                          I see a quite close fight with Griffin edging Alves out on the feet. Is it fair to highlight that Alves struggled a ton with Millenders reach, without mentioning how much Griffin also? I mean, off course, Griffin is the one with the reach, but. Griffin looked really bad in that fight. Alves did at least have some moments in the 2.round, it almost seemed like he had figured out Millender a little bit, before he was KO.

                                                          If this is the case, how is this then a mismatch? Its not like alves looked that bad against kuchenko either.

                                                          Who else, rather than Alves do you see Griffin beat in the future? How good is Griffin really? I dont know, i just struggle to understand where he fits. I started watching tape to bet on Griffin, but didnt fall in love.
                                                          I agree with you. Griffin actually is a decent matchup style wise for Alves. The problem is Griffin has size and youth on his side. Hopefully Alves' experience and technique will make up the difference. I took Alves Decision. Hopefully a Brazilian crowd will make a difference if it's as close as I think it may be.
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                                                          • bjpenn85
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                                                            • 02-17-11
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by turbozed
                                                            I agree with you. Griffin actually is a decent matchup style wise for Alves. The problem is Griffin has size and youth on his side. Hopefully Alves' experience and technique will make up the difference. I took Alves Decision. Hopefully a Brazilian crowd will make a difference if it's as close as I think it may be.
                                                            Yeah, i just want griffin to blaze through Alvez, but when i see tape i just cant find support for it. The youth and reach is something that probably will come into effect but it also might not. Its better to have someone which is significantly better all around as a striker to bet. Then you know for a fact that if for instance alvez doesnt get a lucky punch then Griffin will win. I dont know if griffin is a lot better at striking then alvez at this point. He is better but how much?Is it justified to bet him at -200? Griffin dec is ok because if it hits you get a decent return. But if this fight is finished its probably Griffin, thats obvious .
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                                                            • bjpenn85
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                                                              • 02-17-11
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                                                              #135
                                                              and btw, im cancelling the Borella fight, instead going for Perez handicap. I cant live with betting someone i think looks awful in Borella. Im not banking one someone showing up to fight when they look that bad in a fight, and that fight being the most recent. Plodding, scared of punches, womens mma being so bad, that someone like santos who hasnt faced anyone might be as good as borella anyway. From a decent camp, i dont know if borella is the right person to test her being this inactive. So Perez handicap instead, aldo +125, maia in a parlay, assuncao split dec and thats it for me.
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                                                              • TPowell
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                                                                • 02-21-08
                                                                • 18842

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                and btw, im cancelling the Borella fight, instead going for Perez handicap. I cant live with betting someone i think looks awful in Borella. Im not banking one someone showing up to fight when they look that bad in a fight, and that fight being the most recent. Plodding, scared of punches, womens mma being so bad, that someone like santos who hasnt faced anyone might be as good as borella anyway. From a decent camp, i dont know if borella is the right person to test her being this inactive. So Perez handicap instead, aldo +125, maia in a parlay, assuncao split dec and thats it for me.
                                                                Borrela is really bad on the feet and scared to death of getting hit. I first thought she may have been live but I think Santos has a lot of the intangibles like her own private former d1 wrestling coach that are hard to price in low level wmma fights. I think she wins a lopsided decision/gets the finish or she struggles a ton and loses outright. I don't think this fight will be close. That is why I loved the points handicap for her.
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                                                                • TPowell
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                                                                  • 02-21-08
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Flyers on Said R3 (+2250) and Ledet R3 (+1700) just due to Walker and Ramos having horrible cardio. Only have like 0.25 units split between them but I could definitely see Said turning the volume up in R3 and if Ramos had an awful weight cut... MAYBE finishing him.
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                                                                  • The HOFF
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                                                                    • 07-02-08
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Anyone else leaning Nurmagomedov? Line keeps moving up. I'm going to pull the trigger. Said Nurmagomedov +135 (5u to win 6.75u)

                                                                    Leaning Jose Aldo +125 but will probably wait until after the Nurmagomedov fight.
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                                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by The HOFF
                                                                      Anyone else leaning Nurmagomedov? Line keeps moving up. I'm going to pull the trigger. Said Nurmagomedov +135 (5u to win 6.75u)

                                                                      Leaning Jose Aldo +125 but will probably wait until after the Nurmagomedov fight.
                                                                      I like both Russians in the first 2 fights.. I'm in on Nurmagedov straight.
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                                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                                        • 02-17-11
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Nurmagomedov handicap is more or less a lock if Ricardo doesnt pull anything out of his hat. I really dont see the love for any of these fighters. Ramos is a pseudo top level fighter, while Nurmagomedov is a big king nothing!

                                                                        But, one can take the + money or bet on a close fight as in point spread!
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