UFC 225: Whittaker vs. Romero 2

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  • Hugo de Naranja
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-16
    • 14140

    #386
    Originally posted by turbozed
    Sal D'Amato. None of our decisions are safe.
    Man he turned in some awful cards for this event. Good call on that.
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    • Hugo de Naranja
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-14-16
      • 14140

      #387
      Originally posted by Demonata
      I cant hedge and bet that pieve of shit covington
      Smh. Shudda listened
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      • Hugo de Naranja
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-16
        • 14140

        #388
        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
        That (+8000) DRAW was super live for me too. Would have been a 20u hit
        Most common fan score was DRAW.

        10 Media Members had it 48-47 Romero, 8 had it 47-47 DRAW, 5 had it 48-46 Romero, and 5 had it 48-47 Whittaker. Feel a little hard done by to miss DRAW (+8000), Romero Decision (+1275), Romero Split/Majority Decision (+1415), and Whittaker Unanimous Decision (+325). Whittaker Split was definitely the worst decision outcome for me.
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        • UncleChael
          SBR MVP
          • 10-30-13
          • 3979

          #389
          Its one thing to to say something, its another thing to fukking do it. Covington's a beast!! Comes into Many Men and gets the job done. Well done Colby. ::
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          • Thor4140
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #390
            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
            Man he turned in some awful cards for this event. Good call on that.
            About two years ago on this site i went down a ton of bad decision in big money fights and checked out the refs who were making these bad decisions and this asshole was always on the side of the bookies. That is why this shitbag Sal D'amato does these big fights. He is there for a reason. The same reason guys like Roth, Ford and Moretti are always on the big boxing matches. Oh an of course that no good bitch CJ Ross who i think was finally thrown out of boxing.
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #391
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Keeping it simple and straight with this card.. Not getting to cute with the prop hedging.. Odds are close to even on most fights so I'm going to bet most just straight up.. My usual $100 bet sizing mostly..

              Here is how I'm playing it.... Good luck everyone!!!

              1) Ing Straight
              2)Oliveira Straight
              3)Benivedez by Dec
              4)Smith ITD
              5)Coulter by KO
              6)Bektic by KO
              7)Gadelha by Dec
              8)Blaydes by KO
              9)Jackon ITD
              10)Tuivasa by KO
              11)Covington Straight
              12) Whittiker by Dec/hedged Romero by KO
              Well this is how the event went for me below..

              Pretty much a wash.. Went 6-6 with this card.. Couple prop misses stung mid way thru, I should have played those straight. Started off winning and finished winning so that saved me.. Maybe won a few bucks with the last 2 bigger betting fights at the end the card. My book balances pretty much look the same before and after the event finished..

              Oh well...Too lazy to copy and paste.. Onto the next event I guess...

              1) Ing Straight WIN
              2)Oliveira Straight WIN
              3)Benivedez by Dec LOSS
              4)Smith ITD WIN
              5)Coulter by KO LOSS
              6)Bektic by KO LOSS
              7)Gadelha by Dec WIN
              8)Blaydes by KO LOSS
              9)Jackon ITD LOSS
              10)Tuivasa by KO LOSS
              11)Covington Straight WIN
              12) Whittiker by Dec/hedged Romero by KO WIN
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              • firekillex
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-13
                • 6420

                #392
                lots of fights with tricky scorecards to be honest... a few fights really couldve gone either way
                esparza vs gadehla was a very very close fight if you go by damage esparza won, if you go by rounds i think gadehla won 2-1 just by pure size and strength really

                whittaker vs yoel romero was another close one i had it a draw , if you go by volume and rounds with no 10-8s whittaker wins, if you go by damage yoel obviously won

                tuivasa vs arlovski another very very close fight i had tuivasa 2-1 but that was honestly just razor close either couldve have it


                rda vs covington i see some people actually had RDA , i even bet RDA fairly big but i though it was 2-2 going into round 5 and covington stole the round... damage wise RDA was hitting covington with much harder shots and the strikes were almost even, covington was just throwing light strikes to get pressure and press against the cage to not do much damage but he controlled the fight and you gotta give him the win for that , sometimes the more skilled fighter doesnt win its the bigger, strong, more aggressive fighter who knows ( covington , claudia both proved that )
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                • Slevin07
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 07-08-17
                  • 60

                  #393
                  I had Colby big. Whittaker small in a parlay, got lucky on that. It was probably a draw but if Whittaker didn't injure his right hand he would've taken it more convincingly.

                  leaned pettis but didn't take him. I'm trying to just stick with picks that really stand out to me, hit those at a good rate. Next big bet I see might be Cody over Dillashaw at anything near even odds. If odds weren't trashed now, I would take Stipe over DC even though I want DC to win.
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                  • Sanity Check
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-30-13
                    • 10962

                    #394
                    Originally posted by Thrilla
                    Sanity...my dear Trumptard. You are right about the troll part. But am I a random now..who contributes nothing and tails Hugo?

                    You have a good username...but I can't connect sanity with Trump though...more like insanity..

                    Maybe you meant others as randoms.. apologies in advance if so. Since you did give credit for my posts in the past...
                    Nvm.

                    Trying to juggle too many things and getting irritated.

                    Next time if I'm annoyed I'll roll in the mud like a fool with other fools and it will all be good.


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                    • Hugo de Naranja
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-16
                      • 14140

                      #395
                      Originally posted by firekillex
                      lots of fights with tricky scorecards to be honest... a few fights really couldve gone either way
                      esparza vs gadehla was a very very close fight if you go by damage esparza won, if you go by rounds i think gadehla won 2-1 just by pure size and strength really

                      whittaker vs yoel romero was another close one i had it a draw , if you go by volume and rounds with no 10-8s whittaker wins, if you go by damage yoel obviously won

                      tuivasa vs arlovski another very very close fight i had tuivasa 2-1 but that was honestly just razor close either couldve have it


                      rda vs covington i see some people actually had RDA , i even bet RDA fairly big but i though it was 2-2 going into round 5 and covington stole the round... damage wise RDA was hitting covington with much harder shots and the strikes were almost even, covington was just throwing light strikes to get pressure and press against the cage to not do much damage but he controlled the fight and you gotta give him the win for that , sometimes the more skilled fighter doesnt win its the bigger, strong, more aggressive fighter who knows ( covington , claudia both proved that )
                      I think you owe me some BPs for that Covington/RDA fight. Agreed with all your analysis above.
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                      • Hugo de Naranja
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-14-16
                        • 14140

                        #396
                        Originally posted by Sanity Check
                        Nvm.

                        Trying to juggle too many things and getting irritated.

                        Next time if I'm annoyed I'll roll in the mud like a fool with other fools and it will all be good.



                        Holding you to this.
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                        • SmellMyFinger
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 04-15-18
                          • 117

                          #397
                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                          Most common fan score was DRAW.

                          10 Media Members had it 48-47 Romero, 8 had it 47-47 DRAW, 5 had it 48-46 Romero, and 5 had it 48-47 Whittaker. Feel a little hard done by to miss DRAW (+8000), Romero Decision (+1275), Romero Split/Majority Decision (+1415), and Whittaker Unanimous Decision (+325). Whittaker Split was definitely the worst decision outcome for me.

                          feel for you hugo i scored it a draw as well, and in the end the rda covington fight was more of a tossup than i imagined, congrats on the breakdown
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83686

                            #398
                            Whittiker was rocked pretty badly standing twice in that fight.. Romero had any better cardio he could have finished I think..

                            Romero's biggest problem is not his age but it's always his cardio.. He was pacing himself when I think he should have put it all out there when Whittiker was doing the drunken dance..

                            Romero was gonna lose on the cards most likely anyways as it played out.. I think fighters up against should go all out when they get fighters rocked anyways..

                            A Loss is Loss regardless if you get stopped because you gassed and couldn't finish or if you go the distance.. Romero came close their twice to getting the stoppage...

                            Romero takes the loss.... Goes back down the latter for the goal of getting the belt. Rankings drop... End of story..
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                            • firekillex
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-18-13
                              • 6420

                              #399
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              I think you owe me some BPs for that Covington/RDA fight. Agreed with all your analysis above.
                              what did we bet i forget amigo??
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-14-16
                                • 14140

                                #400
                                Originally posted by SmellMyFinger
                                feel for you hugo i scored it a draw as well, and in the end the rda covington fight was more of a tossup than i imagined, congrats on the breakdown
                                Thanks mate. Felt pretty good about my picks/breakdowns even though it wasn't a great betting night for me.
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                                • firekillex
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-18-13
                                  • 6420

                                  #401
                                  id like to see Romero at 205 would be interesting

                                  imagine him versus DC that would be fireworks
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                                  • Thor4140
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-09-08
                                    • 22296

                                    #402
                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                    id like to see Romero at 205 would be interesting

                                    imagine him versus DC that would be fireworks


                                    I never saw a guy especially this old improve like Romero does. I have seen him rocked a few times but the other night it was like he was made out of granite and the speed of some of those punches my lord they are fast for a 21 year old. To me he is on my short list of must see UFC fighters. And Whitaker my goodness what is his beard made of. I would love to see a third fight with these guys but than again maybe that is not a good idea for these two guys careers.
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                                    • Thor4140
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-09-08
                                      • 22296

                                      #403
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      Whittiker was rocked pretty badly standing twice in that fight.. Romero had any better cardio he could have finished I think..

                                      Romero's biggest problem is not his age but it's always his cardio.. He was pacing himself when I think he should have put it all out there when Whittiker was doing the drunken dance..

                                      Romero was gonna lose on the cards most likely anyways as it played out.. I think fighters up against should go all out when they get fighters rocked anyways..

                                      A Loss is Loss regardless if you get stopped because you gassed and couldn't finish or if you go the distance.. Romero came close their twice to getting the stoppage...

                                      Romero takes the loss.... Goes back down the latter for the goal of getting the belt. Rankings drop... End of story..
                                      you don't drop in rankings with a performance like that JIbby. Are u still smoking the same shit u were smoking Saturday night?
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                                      • stonebanks
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 05-25-18
                                        • 99

                                        #404
                                        very interesting

                                        'About two years ago on this site i went down a ton of bad decision in big money fights and checked out the refs who were making these bad decisions and this asshole was always on the side of the bookies. That is why this shitbag Sal D'amato does these big fights. He is there for a reason. The same reason guys like Roth, Ford and Moretti are always on the big boxing matches. Oh an of course that no good bitch CJ Ross who i think was finally thrown out of boxing.'
                                        Last edited by stonebanks; 06-11-18, 09:03 AM.
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                                        • stonebanks
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 05-25-18
                                          • 99

                                          #405
                                          KMT is my summary of this event, I brokeabout even, maybe even slightly down, the benavidez decision hurt me and a few parlaysI had, not listed below but benavidez cracked a 9 parlay that would have comein, better to lose it at the start rather than the end I guess!

                                          Nobody hurt me as much as Mike Jackson. TheA-hole should be fined for match fixing. Talk about carrying a man to the finalbell. Wasted some money on that one, moral of the story is to not bet on sh*t.

                                          Would have turned a big profit with Blaydesby decision but Reem couldn’t hang on another half round.

                                          Lumped some money on a covington andwhittaker double chasing some losses which came in to pretty much level me outfor the night.

                                          Also tailed on IGE by submission which camein at the start so thanks for the tip Hugo on that one.

                                          Onto the next one.

                                          GUIDA VS OLIVERIA
                                          Guida L
                                          Hedge oliveria submission W


                                          *added* fight go the distance no W

                                          BENAVIDEZ VS PETTIS
                                          Benavidez L
                                          Benavidez decision L
                                          Hedge pettis ITD (hedge in case benavidez does have an injury) L

                                          EVANS VS SMITH
                                          Still deciding

                                          *Went with Smith and fight won’t go thedistance* W W

                                          OVEREEM VS BLAYDES
                                          Blaydes decision L
                                          Hedge - Overeem ITD L



                                          COULTER VS ROCHA
                                          Rocha - W
                                          Over 1.5 rounds - W

                                          ARLOVSKI VS TURVISA
                                          Arlovski - L

                                          *added over 1.5 round - W

                                          PUNK VS JACKSON
                                          Jackson - W
                                          Under 1.5 rounds - L
                                          Jackson ITD - L

                                          HOLM VS ANDERSON
                                          Holm - W
                                          Anderson decision hedge - Cancelled bet


                                          Added holm decision - W

                                          LAMAS VS BEKTIC
                                          Bektic - W

                                          Parlays
                                          Bektic - W
                                          Jackson - W
                                          Gadelha - W

                                          Cm punk - fight to not go the distance L
                                          Benavidez - L
                                          De la rocha - W
                                          Gadelha - W


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                                          • PaperTrail07
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-29-08
                                            • 20423

                                            #406
                                            The guy only scores boxing LOL...
                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                            Man he turned in some awful cards for this event. Good call on that.
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                                            • JIBBBY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83686

                                              #407
                                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                                              you don't drop in rankings with a performance like that JIbby. Are u still smoking the same shit u were smoking Saturday night?
                                              He was ranked #1 he'll drop to #2 or #3 now.. It's still a loss, don't think he'll get an instant rematch with Whittiker now either since he lost 2 against him... Romero will probably have to fight Gastelum now or some one lower ranked to then be in line for another title shot..

                                              Rankings before the fight last night...

                                              Champion : Robert Whittaker

                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 06-11-18, 04:49 PM.
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                                              • brooks85
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #408
                                                worthless judges.
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                                                • PaperTrail07
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 08-29-08
                                                  • 20423

                                                  #409
                                                  That Bene Pettis Decision absolutely ruined the card for me.....also using it as a lesson no to overbet 1 single fight...figured it would be close and pretty much saw it going that way....all except the shit judging...
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                                                  • firekillex
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-18-13
                                                    • 6420

                                                    #410
                                                    Romero wont drop down in rankings lol
                                                    Wonderboy lost to Woodley and stayed #1
                                                    somebody will have to beat Romero to take the #1 spot

                                                    Dana saying he wants Romero at 205 and i think it would bring LHW some life tbh....

                                                    Weidman is hurt with a broken hand and says he can fight in October
                                                    Whittaker has a broken hand from the Romero fight
                                                    Gastelum was supposed to be the backup fighter for this card but Dana says he had some "personal problems" he has to fix and didnt seem happy..... conspiracy theory either his weight was off or he was smoking weed to close to the card????

                                                    Dana isnt happy with Gastelum and Weidman/Whittakers timetables line up perfectly it seems so i think thatll be the fight , even though id rather watch Gastelum Vs Whittaker that fight would be bananas
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                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-14-16
                                                      • 14140

                                                      #411
                                                      Whittaker would wreck Weidman
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by brooks85
                                                        worthless judges.
                                                        Those judges that scored those close fights 30 -27 should not be allowed to judge again.. When you have 2 judges split then the 3rd go 30-27 that's a big red flag..It means he's off his meds, it's rigged or he's just blind...

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                                                        • Demonata
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 07-12-11
                                                          • 25829

                                                          #413
                                                          Still pissed about benavidez losing...
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                                                          • Sanity Check
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-30-13
                                                            • 10962

                                                            #414
                                                            Ever get that feeling where things have been going too well for awhile now.

                                                            I'm almost expecting the sky fall or something catastrophic to make up for it.
                                                            Last edited by Sanity Check; 06-11-18, 09:00 PM.
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                                                            • Shagdogy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-16-10
                                                              • 3564

                                                              #415
                                                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                              Guida +114, risk .88u to win 1u
                                                              Pettis +170, risk .74u to win 1.25u
                                                              Coulter/De La Rocha o1.5, +140, risk .71u to win 1u
                                                              Punk/Jackson FDGTD -220, risk 2.2u to win 1u
                                                              Punk by sub +384, risk .26u to win 1u
                                                              Anderson +182, risk 1u to win 1.82u
                                                              Holm/Anderson u2.5, +265, risk .38u to win 1u
                                                              Romero round 3 +1000, risk .4u to win 4u

                                                              Blaydes + Bektic parlay, +124, risk 1.5u to win 1.86u
                                                              Blaydes + Tuivasa parlay, +117, risk 1u, to win 1.17u
                                                              Smith + Whittaker parlay, +105, risk 1u, to win 1.05u

                                                              Good luck everyone! Yes, I bet on CM Punk by sub with a tiny little stab. What the hell. Call it a hunch, but what the hell is the UFC gonna do with Mike Jackson?

                                                              Might add some other things here or there... props if anything, I think? Will likely hedge with Overeem if both of my Blaydes parlays win the first leg. We'll see.

                                                              Added:
                                                              Gadelha + Tuivasa +105, risk 1u to win 1.05u

                                                              Also added:
                                                              RDA +127, risk .79u to win 1u
                                                              Card Total: 6-7, +1.47u

                                                              YTD: 81-74, +23.96u

                                                              Event Total: 11-6
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                                                              • Thrilla
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-10-15
                                                                • 13809

                                                                #416
                                                                At UFC 225, Holly Holm demonstrated real improvement in her incredible win over Megan Anderson at UFC 225. By contrast, the CM Punk experiment appears to have come to a grinding halt after a poor showing against Mike Jackson on the same fight card. We'll go over the good and bad of it all. It's the Monday Morning Analyst with Luke Thomas.

                                                                <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_WThn4Ox65I" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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                                                                • PaperTrail07
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-29-08
                                                                  • 20423

                                                                  #417
                                                                  literally may kill him lol
                                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  Whittaker would wreck Weidman
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                                                                  • firekillex
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-13
                                                                    • 6420

                                                                    #418
                                                                    i dont agree. werent people saying gastelum would kill weidman lol
                                                                    a lot of people here seem to sleep on weidman big time it seems, i dont even love the guy but i think he would have a legit shot against whittaker

                                                                    id still take whittaker in that scrap for his speed and TDD , but i think it would be a great scrap..

                                                                    i think Gastelum would have a better shot at beating whittaker though, that boys chin is made of steel
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                                                                    • Thrilla
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                                                                      • 03-10-15
                                                                      • 13809

                                                                      #419
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                                                                      • Thrilla
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                                                                        • 13809

                                                                        #420
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