UFC on FOX: Poirier vs. Gaethje (April 14, 2018)

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  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
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    #246
    Gaethje won't remember his own name in 10 years but he sure is entertaining!
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    • the1yankee
      SBR MVP
      • 05-29-16
      • 1203

      #247
      Originally posted by turbozed
      Great fight. Think that Gaethje would've kept steamrolling if he didn't poke Poirier and give him like 5-6 minutes of rest time.

      Any break in a fight is killer for Gaethje's style.

      But...BIG CREDIT TO POIRIER THO, I mean Rogan n Co. had PO,

      wrote off,

      THAT HIS POWER WAS GONE, NO MORE FIRE IN THEM PUNCHES ANYMORE, NONE, ZERO!!

      FROM JGs SMOOTH LUMBERJACK WORK!

      TIL LIGHTNING STRUCK

      FROM A GUY WITH.......NOOOO POWER LEFT, JUST PUNCHING OFF HIS HEELS, U SURE BOUT THAT ROGAN?!?
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      • Sanity Check
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        • 03-30-13
        • 10962

        #248
        I wish Gaethje had fought differently.

        Not stood flat footed everytime Poirier threw a combo. Used angles and fought more technically. Also used his wrestling more.

        The way Gaethje fought completely ruined that for me, it was a fight he probably should have won but lost by making some basic mistakes.

        Also letting Herb Dean ref your fight? Noooo.
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        • Thrilla
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          • 03-10-15
          • 13809

          #249
          Originally posted by the1yankee
          Very true, but it seemed Mr Dean didn't wanna do it, from his body language, but...Poirier played it just like anybody else would, to try n earn the pt penalty.

          Can't blame Herb, he was kinda backed into having to make that call

          Why didn't he do it with Adesanya? Don't forget the post-fight blackpower fistbump.

          I'm considering factoring in Herb Dean's bias in Black vs Non-Black fights.
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          • the1yankee
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            • 05-29-16
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            #250
            Originally posted by Thrilla
            Why didn't he do it with Adesanya? Don't forget the post-fight blackpower fistbump.

            I'm considering factoring in Herb Dean's bias in Black vs Non-Black fights.
            I'm believing it.

            I called the loyalty dept at Directv, to negotiate my annual contract after my 2 yr commitment.

            Who answers, a nasty ass latino female who acted like...I CALLED HER AT HOME, WHILE SHE'S SLEEPING.

            TOLD ME NO DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE FOR ME, I IMMEDIATELY HANG UP ON HER, CALL BACK 1 SECOND LATER

            GET A NICE WHITE LADY LIL SOUTHERN DRAWL, WHICH I FIND VERY INTRIGUING, BUT THAT'S OFF TOPIC.

            ASK HER SAME QUESTION AS OTHER LADY, ANY DISCOUNTS AVAILABLE FOR ME AT MOMENT???

            HER NEXT WORD, YES WE DO, $20/mo off for 12mo. AND $10/mo off for 12mo.

            AMAZING!

            DO PEOPLE GET PLEASURE OUT OF NOT HELPING OUT ANYBODY N EVERYBODY THEY CAN??

            SAD ANSWER..... DAMN RIGHT THEY DO!
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            • the1yankee
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              #251
              And I think to myself

              WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD

              LOL
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              • Thrilla
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                • 03-10-15
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                #252
                <a href='https://postimg.cc/image/p4i6d1s6f/' target='_blank'><img src='https://s7.postimg.cc/6oxpfne23/4543647-_Dustin-_Poirier-_Quote-_We-fall-but-we-get-up-because-the-g.jpg' border='0' alt='4543647-_Dustin-_Poirier-_Quote-_We-fall-but-we-get-up-because-the-g'/></a>
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                • UncleChael
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                  • 10-30-13
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                  #253
                  Gaethje noooooo
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                  • 5918mike
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                    • 04-16-14
                    • 1885

                    #254
                    Originally posted by the1yankee
                    But...BIG CREDIT TO POIRIER THO, I mean Rogan n Co. had PO,

                    wrote off,

                    THAT HIS POWER WAS GONE, NO MORE FIRE IN THEM PUNCHES ANYMORE, NONE, ZERO!!

                    FROM JGs SMOOTH LUMBERJACK WORK!

                    TIL LIGHTNING STRUCK

                    FROM A GUY WITH.......NOOOO POWER LEFT, JUST PUNCHING OFF HIS HEELS, U SURE BOUT THAT ROGAN?!?
                    Rogan and Co, who are you talking about?
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                    • firekillex
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                      • 09-18-13
                      • 6420

                      #255
                      Originally posted by firekillex
                      Gaethje will be a top 10 guy in the most stacked division in the UFC imo which a great feat but the style he imposes just isnt sustainable to be a champion... guy is the most exciting fighter in MMA and he always has a shot at knocking a guy dead, but if Porier can withstand the first couple barrages i think his skill will take over and hell get a round 3/4 finish ..... Gaethje training his wrestling and saying hell blast some doubles on UFC Countdown to change up his game a bit so his opponent stays guessing, but Porier is a beast on the ground so im not even sure thatll help him out here... Porier is my darkhorse of the division right now , a ton of people sleeping on that guy... his chin always scares me a bit , but since moving up to 55 his chin looks better , -120/-140 range is a steal imo
                      i predict these tingz round 3-4 prop bb
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                      • firekillex
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                        • 09-18-13
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                        #256
                        i want barbosa vs gaethje and porier vs ferguson
                        do whats right UFC
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #257
                          Originally posted by Shagdogy
                          Only picking against you on Perez and Reis, but neither one I'm all that confident in. I bet Lopez earlier this week with more confidence but have walked it back since. Good luck!
                          Looks like we split these
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            • 04-14-16
                            • 14140

                            #258
                            Originally posted by spurginobili
                            Damn, Williams looked done after rd 1. I guess I jinxed it
                            I blame you for that Sanders R2 bet not cashing
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              • 04-14-16
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                              #259
                              Originally posted by Richard Clock
                              I am starting to really like these long shot props, have been running hot on them
                              LSPs are the way to go. Let's keep it going my friend
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                • 04-14-16
                                • 14140

                                #260
                                Originally posted by Richard Clock
                                As someone that took Vittori live at +325, I think Israel won that pretty soundly. It would have been a robbery if they didn't give Israel R1.
                                Nice to see some objective analysis every once in awhile
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                                • Thrilla
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                                  • 03-10-15
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                                  #261
                                  <a href='https://postimages.org/' target='_blank'><img src='https://s7.postimg.cc/pwuhnbxaj/841_Dustin_Poirier.jpg' border='0' alt='841_Dustin_Poirier'/></a>
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    • 04-14-16
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                                    #262
                                    Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                    I know you're a big Dustin Poirier fan... I am too. That was incredible and I love that outcome. Gaethje loses nothing and Poirier gains everything he deserves.
                                    You're god damn right.
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                      • 04-14-16
                                      • 14140

                                      #263
                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                      I wish Gaethje had fought differently.

                                      Not stood flat footed everytime Poirier threw a combo. Used angles and fought more technically. Also used his wrestling more.

                                      The way Gaethje fought completely ruined that for me, it was a fight he probably should have won but lost by making some basic mistakes.

                                      Also letting Herb Dean ref your fight? Noooo.
                                      What are you talking about Sanity? That is literally how Gaethje fights in all his fights
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        • 04-14-16
                                        • 14140

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        i predict these tingz round 3-4 prop bb
                                        Nice call Fire
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                                        • Shagdogy
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                                          • 06-16-10
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                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                          What are you talking about Sanity? That is literally how Gaethje fights in all his fights
                                          My thoughts exactly. Have you watched his previous fights? You know exactly what you’re gonna get outta Gaethje every time out. He was never going to do anything different than what we saw
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                                          • firekillex
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                                            • 09-18-13
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                                            #266
                                            whichever judge didnt give Israel that win should be fired...
                                            most obvious round 1-2 10-9 ive ever seen lol easy 29-28 scorecard

                                            guys crying for an eye poke when he got elbowed in the face , then storms off after losing thinking he won... what a joke
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83686

                                              #267
                                              Lost my asss on this event.. Not good.. Next...
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                Gaethje won't remember his own name in 10 years but he sure is entertaining!
                                                Yup, he's bobble head doll in every fight.. Can't be good for the old noodle.. He should retire soon or start wrestling in fights..
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                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                  • 10962

                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                  What are you talking about Sanity? That is literally how Gaethje fights in all his fights
                                                  Originally posted by Shagdogy

                                                  My thoughts exactly. Have you watched his previous fights? You know exactly what you’re gonna get outta Gaethje every time out. He was never going to do anything different than what we saw
                                                  Both Justin Gaethje and Rose Namajunas have Trevor Wittman as a coach.

                                                  Thug Rose is more technical and fights a lot smarter than Justin Gaethje does. Look at how far Thug Rose has come after losing to Carla Esparza on the TUF finale.

                                                  You would expect Justin Gaethje to improve the way everyone else is improving. At least stop making those basic and fundamental mistakes which are embarrassing for someone to make who is a contender in one of the most stacked divisions in the UFC.

                                                  Was Trevor Wittman smiling in Gaethje's corner? He shouldn't be smiling when his fighter stands flat footed and eats every single combo his opponent throws at him. You can be an exciting fighter without being hit all the time.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83686

                                                    #270
                                                    Justin gasses late in fights and that's part of the problem. The main reason he gets knocked out is because he's gassed and his hands begin to drop, little head movement as well. Becomes a very stationary target.. His pace is his own enemy.. DP matched his pace and had a better gas tank. Better technical boxer also, Justin had a hard time landing his shots..

                                                    Justin really got schooled in that fight.. DP matched his toughness also which kinda surprised me..
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                                                    • slikec
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                                                      #271
                                                      Gaethje looks as 1 dimensional fighter as it gets in his fights. Go forward turtle up(absorbing insane amount of damage or lose), leg kicks and head strikes. Old Conor(who knows when Conor will fight again) would destroy Gaethje in my opinion. But Gaethje should do well vs current champ in Khabib so is shame he lost this fight. Sadly few more fights like that and he can be vegetable before he is 40
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                                                      • firekillex
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                                                        • 09-18-13
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                                                        #272
                                                        gaethje said he has 5 more fights left
                                                        hes literally the exact same fighter every fight not sure why people are now surprised lol

                                                        hands down the most exciting fighter in MMA though imo
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                                                        • rsynweap84
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                                                          • 06-24-16
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                                                          #273
                                                          This outcome was known, stll luv Gaethje but I said it, face-tanking punches, works against a meh fighter, not so much other animals, dude got pieced the hell up.
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                                                          • Shagdogy
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                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                            Both Justin Gaethje and Rose Namajunas have Trevor Wittman as a coach.

                                                            Thug Rose is more technical and fights a lot smarter than Justin Gaethje does. Look at how far Thug Rose has come after losing to Carla Esparza on the TUF finale.

                                                            You would expect Justin Gaethje to improve the way everyone else is improving. At least stop making those basic and fundamental mistakes which are embarrassing for someone to make who is a contender in one of the most stacked divisions in the UFC.

                                                            Was Trevor Wittman smiling in Gaethje's corner? He shouldn't be smiling when his fighter stands flat footed and eats every single combo his opponent throws at him. You can be an exciting fighter without being hit all the time.
                                                            I just think there is no coaching Gaethje. He's had 20 fights and won 18 of them with 15 KOs. That's nuts. He does what he does and you don't really coach him as much as support him. He's gonna march forward and test your toughness and if you make it through the fire then hats off to you. DP made it through. But to think Gaethje was suddenly going to be a different fighter is unreasonable.
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                                                            • Shagdogy
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                                                              #275
                                                              Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                              Lopez -127, 1.27u
                                                              Mueller -135 (average of 2 bets), 2u
                                                              Tavares -125, 2u
                                                              Adesanya/Vettori o1.5, -165, 2u
                                                              Poirier -140, 2u

                                                              Oliveira/Bhullar parlay -120, 1.2u
                                                              Oliveira/ACJ parlay +100, 1u

                                                              That's all for me... I think. Will try to keep my cool regardless what happens early in this card and let it play out. Never know though once it gets rolling. Good luck everyone!
                                                              Card Total: 5-2, +4.25u

                                                              YTD: 46-38, +19.41u

                                                              Event Total: 7-4

                                                              Another solid event. Really been back on track these past two. I regret my Lopez play, but I feel real good about not playing the Waterson/Casey fight. I saw so much love and confidence for Casey going around, but I just didn't see it. Sure, she may have won the fight but it was no slam dunk and I'm glad I avoided it altogether.
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                                                              • Richard Clock
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                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                                Card Total: 5-2, +4.25u

                                                                YTD: 46-38, +19.41u

                                                                Event Total: 7-4

                                                                Another solid event. Really been back on track these past two. I regret my Lopez play, but I feel real good about not playing the Waterson/Casey fight. I saw so much love and confidence for Casey going around, but I just didn't see it. Sure, she may have won the fight but it was no slam dunk and I'm glad I avoided it altogether.
                                                                Congrats on the profit. Regretting my Lopez play as well, feel like it was a bit of a square/trap bet. I thought Lopez showed a lot more potential for development on tape. I think we underestimated just how good Perez's cardio is (hasn't gotten tired in any of the fights I watched) + how much Lopez kills himself to make 135. Lopez probably would have had a better chance if he didn't try to cut those extra few pounds. Lopez ITD was the bet I was considering initially but the ML moved to -105 near closing.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                                  #277
                                                                  If Gaethje could mix in some wrestling and take downs that would make him a much more effective fighter. They say he can wrestle his ass off too but he never uses it in fights.. He reminds me of Chuck Liddell as he used his wrestling just to keep the fight standing.. The Ice Man Chuck Liddell hit harder then Gaethje though and could take a better punch in his prime..

                                                                  Anyways last I checked take downs score points, gives you time to rest a bit in top position and work some G&P.. It's is never fun for the guy on bottom experience elbows and punches.... That's why it's called Mixed Martial Arts...
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                                                                  • Sanity Check
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                                                                    • 03-30-13
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                                                                    #278
                                                                    Originally posted by Shagdogy
                                                                    I just think there is no coaching Gaethje. He's had 20 fights and won 18 of them with 15 KOs. That's nuts. He does what he does and you don't really coach him as much as support him. He's gonna march forward and test your toughness
                                                                    Look @ Rose.

                                                                    She does a lot of the same things Gaethje does.

                                                                    Except she moves her head and doesn't eat every single punch her opponent throws.

                                                                    Why can't Gaethje try to do the same? Is he not up to the task of doing the same thing female fighters do?

                                                                    At a certain point its no longer manliness and enters the realm of stupidity.
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                                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                                      • 02-09-08
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                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                                      Look @ Rose.

                                                                      She does a lot of the same things Gaethje does.

                                                                      Except she moves her head and doesn't eat every single punch her opponent throws.

                                                                      Why can't Gaethje try to do the same? Is he not up to the task of doing the same thing female fighters do?

                                                                      At a certain point its no longer manliness and enters the realm of stupidity.
                                                                      Gaethje was looking for someone to be his equal. Pretty sure in another two fights he can go fight Diego Sanchez as his equal. The guy is a walking punching bag with to much heart for his own good.
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                                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                                        • 02-09-08
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                                                                        #280
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