UFC 201: Lawler vs. Woodley (July 30, 2016)

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  • Hugo de Naranja
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    • 04-14-16
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    #141
    For those that don't already have a bet on the main event, you might want to consider this strategy:

    Pre-Fight Bet:
    Woodley Rd 1 for 2 units (ASAP for best price)
    Woodley Rd 2 for 1 unit (ASAP for best price)
    Lawler -5.5 for 2 units (Right before weigh-ins for best price)

    Live Bet:
    Lawler after Rd 1 if he lost the round but the fight is still going on. Lawler after Rd 1 will almost certainly be +odds
    Lawler after Rd 2 if he is still plus odds

    Unless one of these fighters has completely changed since their last appearance, this fight will likely be won by Woodley early or Lawler late when Woodley runs out of gas. If Woodley wins in Round 1, you will profit about 8u. If he wins in Round 2, you will profit about 6u. If Lawler wins in the first 2 rounds, you will break even. Now if Lawler survives the first 2 and you live bet him at +odds there is a high chance he comes back and wins by late finish and possibly decision which would cash both live bets and likely the -5.5 bet as well.
    Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 07-28-16, 12:30 PM.
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    • Ty$
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      • 03-20-16
      • 1241

      #142
      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
      For those that don't already have a bet on the main event, you might want to consider this strategy:

      Pre-Fight Bet:
      Woodley Rd 1 for 2 unit (ASAP for best price)
      Woodley Rd 2 for 1 unit (ASAP for best price)
      Lawler -5.5 for 2 unit (Right before weigh-ins for best price)

      Live Bet:
      Lawler after Rd 1 if he lost the round but the fight is still going on. Lawler after Rd 1 will almost certainly be +odds
      Lawler after Rd 2 if he is still plus odds

      Unless one of these fighters has completely changed since their last appearance, this fight will likely be won by Woodley early or Lawler late when Woodley runs out of gas. If Woodley wins in Round 1, you will profit about 8u. If he wins in Round 2, you will profit about 6u. If Lawler wins in the first 2 rounds, you will break even. Now if Lawler survives the first 2 and you live bet him at +odds there is a high chance he comes back and wins by late finish and possibly decision which would cash both live bets and likely the -5.5 bet as well.
      Sick math bro holy shit impressed.... BTW bleacher report predicts Woodley by DEC. That would mess up your whole bet. I just can't see this fight going 25 minutes.
      Last edited by Ty$; 07-28-16, 12:21 PM.
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      • Hugo de Naranja
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        • 04-14-16
        • 14140

        #143
        Lawler ML down to (-140)!
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        • Hugo de Naranja
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          • 04-14-16
          • 14140

          #144
          Originally posted by Ty$
          Sick math bro holy shit impressed.... BTW bleacher report predicts Woodley by DEC. That would mess up your whole bet. I just can't see this fight going 25 minutes.
          I have a little parlay of Gastelum Decision/Woodley Decision that would cover some of my Lawler exposure but I think Woodley Decision is super unlikely.
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          • Rich Benjamins
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            • 12-15-15
            • 831

            #145
            Originally posted by Ty$
            Sick math bro holy shit impressed.... BTW bleacher report predicts Woodley by DEC. That would mess up your whole bet. I just can't see this fight going 25 minutes.
            Here http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...woodley/page/8 on Bleacher Report it predicts Lawler wins. I don't think I'll bet on that fight. I favor Lawler a little but it's too close.
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            • firekillex
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              • 09-18-13
              • 6420

              #146
              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
              Lawler ML down to (-140)!
              Holyyyyy, do you think it gets lower?? I'm about to make a huge play , hope he's not injured or something
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              • Hugo de Naranja
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                • 04-14-16
                • 14140

                #147
                Originally posted by firekillex
                Holyyyyy, do you think it gets lower?? I'm about to make a huge play , hope he's not injured or something
                Not sure but this seems like a really good price.
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                • Hugo de Naranja
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                  • 04-14-16
                  • 14140

                  #148
                  We've seen steam like this in a few recent main events without good reason, i.e. Lineker vs. Mcdonald, Jedzrzejczyk vs. Gadelha II
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                  • JIBBBY
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-10-09
                    • 83691

                    #149
                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                    For those that don't already have a bet on the main event, you might want to consider this strategy:

                    Pre-Fight Bet:
                    Woodley Rd 1 for 2 units (ASAP for best price)
                    Woodley Rd 2 for 1 unit (ASAP for best price)
                    Lawler -5.5 for 2 units (Right before weigh-ins for best price)

                    Live Bet:
                    Lawler after Rd 1 if he lost the round but the fight is still going on. Lawler after Rd 1 will almost certainly be +odds
                    Lawler after Rd 2 if he is still plus odds

                    Unless one of these fighters has completely changed since their last appearance, this fight will likely be won by Woodley early or Lawler late when Woodley runs out of gas. If Woodley wins in Round 1, you will profit about 8u. If he wins in Round 2, you will profit about 6u. If Lawler wins in the first 2 rounds, you will break even. Now if Lawler survives the first 2 and you live bet him at +odds there is a high chance he comes back and wins by late finish and possibly decision which would cash both live bets and likely the -5.5 bet as well.
                    Funny just yesterday I thought to myself I need to watch a few rounds of this fight stay sharp and look to live bet and hedge if Ruthless Robbie is still around to start the 3rd or 4th and starting to come on.. I'll probably be drunk though and forget to do this
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                    • KingHawkins
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                      • 04-18-13
                      • 1311

                      #150
                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                      We've seen steam like this in a few recent main events without good reason, i.e. Lineker vs. Mcdonald, Jedzrzejczyk vs. Gadelha II
                      How about Holm vs Shevchenko? Was that steam "without good reason"? Just trying to point out that we have seen the big steam plays both win and lose in the very recent past.
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                      • firekillex
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                        • 09-18-13
                        • 6420

                        #151
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Not sure but this seems like a really good price.
                        I'm on lawler huge for -145 I'm gonna wait until saturday and watch the line movement if it starts going up I'll put my bet in quick but hoping it can drop a little more , don't see why it's even dropping at all but I'll take it

                        this is gonna make this card a lot more interesting , probably going to be my biggest UFC bet of the year , war lawler
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by KingHawkins
                          How about Holm vs Shevchenko? Was that steam "without good reason"? Just trying to point out that we have seen the big steam plays both win and lose in the very recent past.
                          I was on Shev from the start since the line was ridiculous. A few sharps came in huge late on her which dropped the line. I get your point though that steam is not always a great indicator of what will happen.
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                          • Ty$
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                            • 03-20-16
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by Rich Benjamins
                            Here http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...woodley/page/8 on Bleacher Report it predicts Lawler wins. I don't think I'll bet on that fight. I favor Lawler a little but it's too close.
                            Sorry must have read sumthing wrong or diff site
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                            • Ty$
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                              • 03-20-16
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                              I was on Shev from the start since the line was ridiculous. A few sharps came in huge late on her which dropped the line. I get your point though that steam is not always a great indicator of what will happen.
                              You're right same thing happened w Mac/Lineker and JL still put boot to ass.
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                              • Ty$
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                                • 03-20-16
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by firekillex
                                I'm on lawler huge for -145 I'm gonna wait until saturday and watch the line movement if it starts going up I'll put my bet in quick but hoping it can drop a little more , don't see why it's even dropping at all but I'll take it

                                this is gonna make this card a lot more interesting , probably going to be my biggest UFC bet of the year , war lawler
                                It's the year of main event underdogs so far. Casual bettors only see the +++ I think the line gets even lower than -130 which I predicted. Rivera up to +140 from starting even.
                                Last edited by Ty$; 07-28-16, 02:23 PM.
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                                • firekillex
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                                  • 09-18-13
                                  • 6420

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Ty$
                                  It's the year of main event underdogs so far. Casual bettors only see the +++ I think the line gets even lower than -130 which I predicted.
                                  Ive been on a ton of the underdogs but first thing this fight was announced I was on lawler big time and vowed to go large if it went under -200 now it's creeping under -150 my prayers have come true now he just needs to come through
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #157
                                    Steam on Erik Perez moves Rivera to +140
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                                    • KingHawkins
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                                      • 04-18-13
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                                      #158
                                      Don't forget Krylov. He just got "steamed" too back to -210/225 at my two shops. Better value on Herman for me? Or "Maybe I better just watch the fight.." (and maybe sprinkle the over)
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                                      • Rich Benjamins
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-15-15
                                        • 831

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by KingHawkins
                                        Don't forget Krylov. He just got "steamed" too back to -210/225 at my two shops. Better value on Herman for me? Or "Maybe I better just watch the fight.." (and maybe sprinkle the over)
                                        You never know how exactly a fight will play out, but I think sprinkle the under would be a much smarter bet. Both of those guys are finishers, and finishees. I wanna see Krylov get a first round finish. However, a finish does look expected in the betting line so might not be bad, you're only betting on o1.5 +110 on 5Dimes.
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                                        • KingHawkins
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                                          • 04-18-13
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Rich Benjamins
                                          You never know how exactly a fight will play out, but I think sprinkle the under would be a much smarter bet. Both of those guys are finishers, and finishees. I wanna see Krylov get a first round finish. However, a finish does look expected in the betting line so might not be bad, you're only betting on o1.5 +110 on 5Dimes.
                                          Expect the unexpected. o1.5 +110 seems fair to me. Should be a fun fight to watch, I look forward to this one.
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                                          • Ty$
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                                            • 03-20-16
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                                            #161
                                            Got Krylov at -150
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                                            • firekillex
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                                              • 09-18-13
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                                              #162
                                              Using brown in 2 fight parlays as a main piece , basically get -110 to + juice with any person you like if you add him . Could get buried if he loses but I like this fight for him. Add in masvidal , graves , krylov, scoggins , others you like
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                                              • JIBBBY
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83691

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                Steam on Erik Perez moves Rivera to +140
                                                Saw that
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                                                • THE_RUDESTER
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 06-10-15
                                                  • 274

                                                  #164
                                                  Throw in Leo Santa Cruz (boxing) in some parlays. I have him -170 now at a ridiculous -340 nonetheless he should definitely get the W.

                                                  Getting more action on him
                                                  Parlay #1
                                                  Santa Cruz and Brown
                                                  Parlay #2
                                                  Santa Cruz and Rodriguez (next week.)
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                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                    • 04-14-16
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by THE_RUDESTER
                                                    Throw in Leo Santa Cruz (boxing) in some parlays. I have him -170 now at a ridiculous -340 nonetheless he should definitely get the W.

                                                    Getting more action on him
                                                    Parlay #1
                                                    Santa Cruz and Brown
                                                    Parlay #2
                                                    Santa Cruz and Rodriguez (next week.)
                                                    I don't bet boxing much but I hit Santa Cruz/Dec early too. I think he wins pretty handily
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                                                    • THE_RUDESTER
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                                                      • 06-10-15
                                                      • 274

                                                      #166
                                                      👆 Cool. Good Luck to all this weekend.
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                                                      • HurlSweatPants
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                                                        • 07-28-15
                                                        • 951

                                                        #167
                                                        Liking Graves to win by dec and thinking about taking a small flyer on Benoit if I can get better than +105.
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                                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                          • 04-14-16
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                          Liking Graves to win by dec and thinking about taking a small flyer on Benoit if I can get better than +105.
                                                          Look for Graves -3.5. I think he either wins a wide decision or gets a finish (5 finishes in 6 fights). It will probably be +odds and has a great chance of cashing
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                                                          • JC2008
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                                                            • 02-27-08
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                                                            #169
                                                            Santa Cruz is +125 by decision on Bet365. Definitely sprinkle on the draw as there will be a large Irish continingent in Barkley's Center cheering him on, which may influence the judging. Probably not though, as Frampton is moving up and LSC's workrate is crazy.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              • 12-10-09
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                                                              #170
                                                              Scoggins/Mcall fight cancelled ..

                                                              ATLANTA – Ian McCall has been out of action for 18 months. He'll have to wait a little longer to get back to work. McCall (13-5-1 MMA, 2-3-1 UFC) today had his main-card opening flyweight fight at UFC 201 against Justin Scoggins (11-2 MMA, 4-2 UFC) yanked out from…
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                                                              • Ty$
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                Look for Graves -3.5. I think he either wins a wide decision or gets a finish (5 finishes in 6 fights). It will probably be +odds and has a great chance of cashing
                                                                Nice call here
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                                                                • firekillex
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                                                                  • 09-18-13
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  BJ what's the deal with scoggins pulling out and going up to bantamweight ?? Was looking forward to this fight kinda weak to pull that 2 days before the card
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                                                                  • bjpenn85
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                                                                    • 02-17-11
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                    BJ what's the deal with scoggins pulling out and going up to bantamweight ?? Was looking forward to this fight kinda weak to pull that 2 days before the card
                                                                    Thats weird, he has made the weight many times before? Maybe Franscico rivera at +155 isnt that bad now. Def a 50/50 fight
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                                                                    • sweep
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                                                                      • 10-09-10
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      lawler down to -143 at bookmaker
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                                                                      • Rich Benjamins
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                                                                        • 12-15-15
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by sweep
                                                                        lawler down to -143 at bookmaker
                                                                        I'm leaning towards Lawler, but he could easily lose this fight. It will likely end up 50/50 odds. Lawler is a paper champ anyways. He actually lost in the Condit fight, he also lost to Hendricks in their second fight IMO. The judges gave it to him.
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