UFC 196: McGregor vs. Diaz (March 05, 2016)

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  • JIBBBY
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    #36
    ^^^Well Richie, I always say when in doubt between two plays go with the play for better odds..

    <small>UFC 196 - Welterweight 5 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV</small>
    Sat 3/5 1001 Nate Diaz <input id="editx" name="M1_0" size="4"> +350 <input id="editx" name="L1_0" size="4"> o2½ +160
    11:59PM 1002 Conor McGregor <input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4"> -440 <input id="editx" name="L2_0" size="4"> u2½ -185
    1st round McGregor finish odds... ????? Not out yet..


    I'll tell you I don't like wagering odds at - value these days in MMA but I did with the Oscars last night and I'm thinking about this one seriously for a bet with this fight.... Remember this is a 5 round fight and Nate is coming in on short notice... Almost a lock...

    1009 McGregor wins inside distance <input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> -350
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-29-16, 07:43 PM.
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    • Deceptakhan
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      #37
      If these guys fought ten times, could it make it to the bell 3 times?
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      • JIBBBY
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        #38
        Originally posted by Deceptakhan
        If these guys fought ten times, could it make it to the bell 3 times?
        Nate on short notice like this I don't think so not even one time.. My opinion though...
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        • JoshKnows46
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          #39
          Originally posted by Deceptakhan
          If these guys fought ten times, could it make it to the bell 3 times?
          I think it's finished all 10 times, maybe if diaz was in shape, it could go 5 rounds 30 percent, but not a 170 diaz on short notice cutting from 185, under these circumstances it's finished everytime. Diaz is heavy on his front leg, and conor has brutal kicks to the body, late 2nd is the earliest I can see it finished, early 4th is the latest I can see it going, mcgregor is gonna kill his mobility with kicks to the legs and body, diaz will be looking for a way out by the 3rd.
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          • JIBBBY
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            #40
            Darren Elkins vs Chas Skelly is an interesting match up of grinders.. I'm thinking this fight probably ends up being a piss poor striking contest between 2 that goes the distance.. Not entirely sure Skelly can out work Elkins for 3 rounds.. Slight chance Elkins could get the late KO as well.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Darren-Elkins-22094

            <small>UFC 196 - Featherweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1</small>
            Sat 3/5 1801 Chas Skelly <input id="radiox" value="M1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">-155 <input id="radiox" value="L1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -230
            8:00PM 1802 Darren Elkins <input id="radiox" value="M2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">+135 <input id="radiox" value="L2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +190


            I can only gauge the over round bets probably hitting in this fight so far but those odds are stiff....



            Darren
            Elkins
            "The Damage"
            vs
            Chas
            Skelly
            "The Scrapper"

            USA
            Country
            USA

            20-5-0
            Record
            15-1-0

            40%
            KO/TKO
            20%
            Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-01-16, 12:09 PM.
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            • PaperTrail07
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              #41
              Skelly will land the takedown and win DEC or Via SUb IMO...
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Darren Elkins vs Chas Skelly is an interesting match up of grinders.. I'm thinking this fight probably ends up being a piss poor striking contest between 2 that goes the distance.. Not entirely sure Skelly can out work Elkins for 3 rounds.. Slight chance Elkins could get the late KO as well.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Darren-Elkins-22094

              <small>UFC 196 - Featherweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1</small>
              Sat 3/5 1801 Chas Skelly <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="M1_8">-155 <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="L1_8">o2½ -230
              8:00PM 1802 Darren Elkins <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="M2_8">+135 <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="L2_8">u2½ +190


              I can only gauge the over round bets probably hitting in this fight so far but those odds are stiff....



              Darren
              Elkins
              "The Damage"
              vs
              Chas
              Skelly
              "The Scrapper"

              USA
              Country
              USA

              20-5-0
              Record
              15-1-0

              40%
              KO/TKO
              20%
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              • JIBBBY
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                #42
                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                Skelly will land the takedown and win DEC or Via SUb IMO...
                Maybe Paper, Skelly will surely be working all fight to get the takedown that's for sure.. That's his game... Elkins has pretty good take down defense though and is very scrappy himself.. This really is a close matchup in my opinion..
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                • JIBBBY
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                  #43
                  I decided to take a chance at plus odds and go with Elkins.. He's fought stiffer comp and is slightly better standing in my opinion.. That should be the difference in this fight if Elkins doesn't get grapple focked.. I'm betting he won't anyways...

                  $160.00 $216.00 Pending 3/5/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Darren Elkins +135* <small>vs</small> Chas Skelly
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    #44
                    Write ups coming out..

                    MMAmania part 1 prelims - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/2/29/11...regor-diaz-mma

                    Part 2 prelims - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/3/1/111...regor-diaz-mma

                    Combat press - http://combatpress.com/2016/02/toe-t...d-predictions/
                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-02-16, 02:32 AM.
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      #45
                      My guess is he 100% gets grapple Focked LOL...
                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                      I decided to take a chance at plus odds and go with Elkins.. He's fought stiffer comp and is slightly better standing in my opinion.. That should be the difference in this fight if Elkins doesn't get grapple focked.. I'm betting he won't anyways...

                      $160.00 $216.00 Pending 3/5/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Darren Elkins +135* <small>vs</small> Chas Skelly
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                      • Vaughany
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                        #46
                        Might as well jus play Elkins by decision..never finishes!
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                        • JoshKnows46
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                          #47
                          I lean to skelly, but I'd be worried about him being willing to accept the takedown to work for subs off his back costing him a dec, if skelly fights smart he should take it, I think the over 2.5 rounds is the better play, with a small bet on skelly sub, think I might not bet this one.
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Might as well jus play Elkins by decision..never finishes!
                            He does have 10 finishes in his 19 wins.. Could finish but not likely against a guy like Skelly.. Didn't want to take the chance so I just played it straight at the plus odds..

                            The odds didn't jump that much for the risk in my opinion.... Yes all props are out

                            1811 Elkins wins by 3 round decision <input id="editx" name="M1_177" size="4"> +175
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #49
                              Jim Miller confident going in... Says he's gonna choke Sanchez unconscious... Interview -

                              If ya believe what Jim is saying here is the prop below.. I'm not sold on it as I'm still waiting this fight out.. Very much still on the fence with this fight as far as a straight winner or loser goes.. Slight lean Miller time...

                              1927 Miller wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_204" name="radiox" type="radio">+685
                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-01-16, 09:56 PM.
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                              • JoshKnows46
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Jim Miller confident going in... Says he's gonna choke Sanchez unconscious... Interview -

                                If ya believe what Jim is saying here is the prop below.. I'm not sold on it as I'm still waiting this fight out.. Very much still on the fence with this fight as far as a straight winner or loser goes.. Slight lean Miller time...

                                1927 Miller wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_204" name="radiox" type="radio">+685
                                Miller straight is the play, winning by dec is the most likely outcome by a wide margin. Got 740 on miller straight at -135/-140 and 100 on sanchez 3rd round finish at +1750.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #51
                                  MMAmania write up on this fight..


                                  <small>UFC 196 - Lightweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                                  Sat 3/5 1901 Jim Miller <input id="radiox" value="M1_9" name="radiox" type="radio">-140 <input id="radiox" value="L1_9" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -250
                                  7:30PM 1902 Diego Sanchez <input id="radiox" value="M2_9" name="radiox" type="radio">+120 <input id="radiox" value="L2_9" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +210
                                  155 lbs.: Diego Sanchez vs. Jim Miller
                                  Once one of the Lightweight division’s toughest outs, Diego Sanchez (25-8) is just 2-4 in his last six appearances, both victories blatant robberies. His last fight saw him test the waters at 145 pounds, only to lose a decision to perennial contender Ricardo Lamas.
                                  Sanchez stands two inches taller than Jim Miller (25-7) at 5’11."



                                  Last July, Miller snapped a career-first two-fight losing streak with a hard-fought unanimous decision over Team Alpha Male’s Danny Castillo. In Dec. 2015, he put on an entertaining scrap with Michael Chiesa before ultimately tapping to a rear-naked choke in the second round.

                                  He has submitted 14 professional opponents.

                                  Sanchez, at this point, is almost painfully bad. He no longer has any notion of set ups, range or fluidity in his striking, instead just throwing powerless arm punches from way too far out. His fight with Gilbert Melendez is chock-full of ludicrous moments wherein Melendez simply ducks back, slams home a right hand, then ducks back again as Sanchez flings out punches without moving.


                                  Miller’s going to earn a win, is what I’m saying.

                                  Shopworn though he may be, Miller is the better striker by a fair margin at this point and Sanchez no longer has the wrestling prowess to grind him down. The only question is whether the judges will see fit to score the fight by lost brain cells again.

                                  Prediction: Miller via unanimous decision
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                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                    #52
                                    Sanchez just loses by dec, you can't stop him, never been subbed, and only kod once, he got heart...miller gonna put it on him the first 2 rounds, then Sanchez Will try to go beast mode in the 3rd lol..
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                      Sanchez just loses by dec, you can't stop him, never been subbed, and only kod once, he got heart...miller gonna put it on him the first 2 rounds, then Sanchez Will try to go beast mode in the 3rd lol..
                                      I think you're right on this Josh.. That 2nd round will be sketchy though on points as Miller could begin to gas and end up on his back maybe.... I'll play miller by decision and roll the dice... Im in!!!

                                      $120.00 $186.00 Pending 3/5/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1907 Miller wins by 3 round decision +155* <small>vs</small> Not Miller by 3 round decision
                                      Agree with the 3rd round Sanchez finish as Miller will gas out for sure in the 3rd.. If he holds on he probably gets the decision, if not he gets finished late in the 3rd like you suggest.. Good calls on this Josh and I concure..

                                      $25.00 $417.50 Pending 3/5/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1925 Sanchez wins in round 3 +1670* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-01-16, 10:35 PM.
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                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        I think you're right on this Josh.. That 2nd round will be sketchy though on points as Miller could begin to gas and end up on his back maybe.... I'll play miller by decision and roll the dice... Im in!!!

                                        $120.00 $186.00 Pending 3/5/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1907 Miller wins by 3 round decision +155* <small>vs</small> Not Miller by 3 round decision
                                        Miller is more mobile than sanchez, a competant wrestler, and Sanchez doesn't come to wrestle, if anyone is to force a td, it would be miller, not sanchez imo, even a gassed miller is less stationary then Sanchez at this point in their careers.
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                                        • JIBBBY
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                                          #55
                                          I don't believe in Thatch anymore if the fight drags on.. He is most dynamic in that 1st round..... So I'm gonna fade Thatch on the straight but hedge for slight profit with the 1st round Thatch..

                                          I'm not looking to win big in any of these above mentioned fights, as they are reasonably close in nature.. Just looking to win...

                                          $100.00 $245.00 Pending 3/5/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1501 Siyar Bahadurzada +245* <small>vs</small> Brandon Thatch
                                          hedge -

                                          $75.00 $131.30 Pending 3/5/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1521 Thatch wins in round 1 +175* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-02-16, 02:27 AM.
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            #56
                                            Finishing capping this fight now.. Asian fade is in order here.. Ishihara just hasn't faced stiff comp yet IMO.. Juicy J will be his toughest test yet for sure....

                                            <small>UFC 196 - Lightweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - UFC Fight Pass </small>
                                            Sat 3/5 2101 Teruto Ishihara <input id="radiox" value="M1_11" name="radiox" type="radio">+170 <input id="radiox" value="L1_11" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -170
                                            6:30PM 2102 Julian Erosa <input id="radiox" value="M2_11" name="radiox" type="radio">-200 <input id="radiox" value="L2_11" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +150


                                            I'm going with Erosa ITD ...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Julian-Erosa-71442

                                            $150.00 $351.00 Pending 3/5/16 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2109 Erosa wins inside distance +234* <small>vs</small> Not Erosa inside distance

                                            Will hedge with Ishihara since he has some pop in his punches and most of his wins come by KO..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Teruto-Ishihara-78898

                                            $50.00 $262.50 Pending 3/5/16 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2129 Ishihara wins by TKO/KO +525* <small>vs</small> Any other result


                                            MMAmania write up -

                                            145 lbs.: Julian Erosa vs. Teruto Ishihara

                                            Julian Erosa (15-2) became the sole member of Team Urijah Faber to reach the semifinals, only to fall to Artem Lobov once there. "Juicy J" squared off with Marcin Wrzosek at The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 22 Finale, ultimately taking home a split decision over "The Polish Zombie."

                                            He is five inches taller than Teruto Ishihara (7-2-2) at 6’0."

                                            Ishihara fought his way through Road to UFC: "Japan" to earn a spot on UFC Fight Night 75 opposite Strikeforce and UFC veteran Mizuto Hirota. Despite a strong start, the young power-puncher could not keep up with "Pugnus’" pace, ultimately escaping with a split draw.

                                            "Yashabo" has knocked out six opponents, five of them in the first round.

                                            I’m not sure what it is about "Juicy J" that makes him so unimpressive to me, but I’ve got Ishihara for the upset. I felt Erosa deserved a loss in his fight with Wrzosek and he shows a worrying lack of defensive acumen.


                                            Considering Ishihara’s history of knockouts and the fact that he managed to drop the iron-tough Hirota, that’s trouble.

                                            Erosa desperately needs to learn to better utilize his height. Hopefully, getting his block knocked off by Ishihara will be the impetus he needs to tighten up his game.

                                            Prediction: Ishihara via first-round knockout

                                            UFC Fight Pass Early Prelims



                                            Julian
                                            Erosa
                                            "Juicy J"
                                            vs
                                            Teruto
                                            Ishihara
                                            "Yashabo"

                                            UNITED STATES
                                            Country
                                            JAPAN

                                            15-3-0
                                            Record
                                            8-2-2

                                            33%
                                            KO/TKO
                                            75%

                                            53%
                                            SUB
                                            0%
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                                            • JoshKnows46
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                                              #57
                                              Works all done, now the wait begins..

                                              My Full Card:
                                              Parlay:
                                              Mcgregor wins inside the distance -295
                                              Nunes -150
                                              Risking $1000 to win $1231.74

                                              Mcgregor finishes in the 3rd +525 risking $100
                                              Mcgregor/diaz starts round 2 -225 $562.50 to win $250
                                              Latifi -210/mcg-diaz starts 2nd round -185 $250 to win $318.53
                                              Not mcgregor in the 1st round -170 $170 to win $100

                                              Nunes +100/-155 risking $1200

                                              Latifi -150/-210/-190 risking $1600

                                              Holm finishes in 3rd round +875 $100
                                              Holm finishes in 4th round +1300 $150
                                              Holm finishes in 5th round +1900 $150

                                              Vitor Miranda inside the distance -120/-130/-140 to win $300
                                              Vitor Miranda -300 Risking $3000
                                              Miranda/guim under 2.5 +110 $100
                                              Miranda/guim fight doesn't go the distance -120 $120

                                              Teruto Ishihara +200 risking $600

                                              Taleb by dec +325 Risking $100
                                              Taleb by dec +300 Risking $50

                                              Corey Anderson by dec -105/-120/-130 to win $300

                                              Miller -135/-140 risking $740
                                              Sanchez to finish in the 3rd +1750 risking $100

                                              Thatch finishes in round 1 +175 $150
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                                              • JoshKnows46
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                                                #58
                                                Any questions about any of my bets?, don't be afraid to ask, I'd rather you ask and save yourself money, then be on the opposite end of any of these.
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                                                • AliMMA
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                  Any questions about any of my bets?, don't be afraid to ask, I'd rather you ask and save yourself money, then be on the opposite end of any of these.
                                                  Ishihara? You confident on him or just a lean?

                                                  Although Erosa is a dick, he didn't look bad in TUF
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #60
                                                    ^^I see you loaded up on Miranda JOSH.. $3000 to win $1000.. That's a big bet there cheif!!!

                                                    Curious as to why you took him straight at -300 when you could have taken him ITD at +110 or by 1st round finish at +275.. You do most of Miranda's wins come in the 1st round and by KO..

                                                    The KO prop has no value compared to the ITD prop by the way...

                                                    <small>UFC 196 - Middleweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1</small>
                                                    Sat 3/5 1701 Marcelo Guimaraes <input id="editx" name="M1_7" size="4"> +255 <input id="editx" name="L1_7" size="4"> o2½ -125
                                                    8:30PM 1702 Vitor Miranda <input id="editx" name="M2_7" size="4"> -310 <input id="editx" name="L2_7" size="4"> u2½ +105

                                                    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                    The write up MMAmania - (copy and paste)

                                                    185 lbs.: Vitor Miranda vs. Marcelo Guimaraes

                                                    As a Heavyweight, Vitor Miranda (11-4) battered his way to the Finale of The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil 3 before dropping a decision to Antonio "Cara de Sapato." He has continued to demonstrate his knockout prowess in the UFC with brutal finishes of Jake Collier and Clint Hester.

                                                    "Lex Luthor" has finished 10 opponents overall, eight via knockout.

                                                    Marcelo Guimaraes (9-1-1) entered UFC as the Jungle Fight Middleweight Champion, but didn’t win many fans in his split-decision win over Daniel Stittgen. A knockout loss to Hyun Gyu Lim followed, prompting a return to Middleweight and decision victory over Andy Enz.

                                                    This will be his first fight for "Magrao" in 1.5 years.

                                                    Guimaraes has the classic flaw of being a top-control specialist with no wrestling to speak of; worse, his striking could charitably be described as "horrific." That’s just not going to cut it against Miranda, who not only boasts fairly stout takedown defense, but has the power to lay out much larger men.


                                                    Unless Guimaraes can turn this into an ungodly mess of a clinch fight, Miranda ought to smash him up something awful. "Lex Luthor" lays him out with punches sometime in the first round.


                                                    Prediction: Miranda via first-round knockout
                                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 03-02-16, 03:13 AM.
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                                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by AliMMA
                                                      Ishihara? You confident on him or just a lean?

                                                      Although Erosa is a dick, he didn't look bad in TUF
                                                      I'm confident in him, wrong guy is favored, have it completely opp of the books with ishihara favored -200, Erosa keeps his head on a pole, too be hit, chin high, is akward on the feet, doesnt utilize his reach well, and ishihara will have the speed and power advantage with Erosa moving down in weight, ishiharas constant forward pressure will allow him to to cruise to a easy dec victory, if he doesn't ko Erosa before then...Erosa recently coming off of TUF, having a name, is giving us excellent value. I put 600 down to win 1200, My unit is 300, I recommend putting 2 units ishihara in this matchup.
                                                      Last edited by JoshKnows46; 03-02-16, 03:17 AM.
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                                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        ^^I see you loaded up on Miranda JOSH.. $3000 to win $1000.. That's a big bet there cheif!!!

                                                        Curious as to why you took him straight at -300 when you could have taken him ITD at +110 or by 1st round finish at +275.. You do most of Miranda's wins come in the 1st round and by KO..

                                                        The KO prop has no value compared to the ITD prop by the way...

                                                        <small>UFC 196 - Middleweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - FS1</small>
                                                        Sat 3/5 1701 Marcelo Guimaraes <input id="editx" name="M1_7" size="4"> +255 <input id="editx" name="L1_7" size="4"> o2½ -125
                                                        8:30PM 1702 Vitor Miranda <input id="editx" name="M2_7" size="4"> -310 <input id="editx" name="L2_7" size="4"> u2½ +105

                                                        -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                        The write up MMAmania - (copy and paste)

                                                        185 lbs.: Vitor Miranda vs. Marcelo Guimaraes

                                                        As a Heavyweight, Vitor Miranda (11-4) battered his way to the Finale of The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil 3 before dropping a decision to Antonio "Cara de Sapato." He has continued to demonstrate his knockout prowess in the UFC with brutal finishes of Jake Collier and Clint Hester.

                                                        "Lex Luthor" has finished 10 opponents overall, eight via knockout.

                                                        Marcelo Guimaraes (9-1-1) entered UFC as the Jungle Fight Middleweight Champion, but didn’t win many fans in his split-decision win over Daniel Stittgen. A knockout loss to Hyun Gyu Lim followed, prompting a return to Middleweight and decision victory over Andy Enz.

                                                        This will be his first fight for "Magrao" in 1.5 years.

                                                        Guimaraes has the classic flaw of being a top-control specialist with no wrestling to speak of; worse, his striking could charitably be described as "horrific." That’s just not going to cut it against Miranda, who not only boasts fairly stout takedown defense, but has the power to lay out much larger men.


                                                        Unless Guimaraes can turn this into an ungodly mess of a clinch fight, Miranda ought to smash him up something awful. "Lex Luthor" lays him out with punches sometime in the first round.


                                                        Prediction: Miranda via first-round knockout



                                                        Im aware, i have a little over 600 invested in the under or Miranda itd, I do that because I prefer to have most of my wager straight on bets I'm this confident in, the number next to the name really means nothing to me when the opp has no path to victory, I have him favored by -850, so I'm already getting massive value at -300, no reason to get greedy, I'm just gonna take the easy $1000, and then worry about the complementary secondary bets..similar to what i did with cowboy cerrone, and brunson a couple cards ago....plays i'm not as confident I might choose to limit my wager and find suitable props, for less risk and increased values..but plays i'm confident in the winner, i focus on collecting the money and not getting in my own way with props.
                                                        Last edited by JoshKnows46; 03-02-16, 03:19 AM.
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                                                        • JoshKnows46
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                                                          • 3691

                                                          #63
                                                          for example, you see corey anderson, taleb and thatch i have all 3 in some type of prop, but i didnt bet either straight, thats becuase their opp's have paths to victory, so i limited risk and increased values with props for those matchups, becuase those 3 props are the most likey outcome in those 3 fights, and i didnt want to lay -300 with corey, i didnt want to lay -300 with thatch, and i wanted more then +190 on taleb, by playing those as props, it made it worth my wild to bet on those fights, but i wouldn't lay a heafty number on any of them....when i'm betting on muppets i play props, when i'm betting solid fighters that wont flake on me, the number doesn't matter if i see value where the lines at...The miranda, mcgregor, nunes, and latifi fights, i already know the winners of those match-ups, those tickets are already cashed.
                                                          Last edited by JoshKnows46; 03-02-16, 03:45 AM.
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                                                          • AliMMA
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 02-08-16
                                                            • 40

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                            I'm confident in him, wrong guy is favored, have it completely opp of the books with ishihara favored -200, Erosa keeps his head on a pole, too be hit, chin high, is akward on the feet, doesnt utilize his reach well, and ishihara will have the speed and power advantage with Erosa moving down in weight, ishiharas constant forward pressure will allow him to to cruise to a easy dec victory, if he doesn't ko Erosa before then...Erosa recently coming off of TUF, having a name, is giving us excellent value. I put 600 down to win 1200, My unit is 300, I recommend putting 2 units ishihara in this matchup.
                                                            Thanks man, will do!
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              He does have 10 finishes in his 19 wins.. Could finish but not likely against a guy like Skelly.. Didn't want to take the chance so I just played it straight at the plus odds..

                                                              The odds didn't jump that much for the risk in my opinion.... Yes all props are out

                                                              1811 Elkins wins by 3 round decision <input id="editx" name="M1_177" size="4"> +175
                                                              Jibbbehh, majority of those were at events like ''Bourbon Street Brawl 3'' 10 years ago against some chump! He has 1 finish in last 14 fights - the TKO against Ludwig was because Ludwig ****** his ankle up.

                                                              The only argument for Elkins perhaps finishing now is that he's training at Team Alpha Fail so may be more aggressive and clinical
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                                                              • plekz
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-28-13
                                                                • 1491

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                                when i'm betting solid fighters that wont flake on me, the number doesn't matter if i see value where the lines at...The miranda, mcgregor, nunes, and latifi fights, i already know the winners of those match-ups, those tickets are already cashed.
                                                                Wow, seeing Latifi and Miranda mentioned in the same vein as Mcgregor in terms of 'solid fighters' really just made me smile. How much of Latifi's career have you been following? Aslong as he's with 'Allstars' he'll never qualify as a solid fighter in any way shape or form. Their coaching overall is dismal.

                                                                And Latifi has had very favorable fights in the UFC with very clear paths to victory, aside from Blachowicz and in that fight he made amateurish mistakes and ate a liverkick that ended his night.

                                                                He may very well win saturday, but he should not be as heavily favored as he is currently.
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                                                                • bjpenn85
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-17-11
                                                                  • 5059

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  Jibbbehh, majority of those were at events like ''Bourbon Street Brawl 3'' 10 years ago against some chump! He has 1 finish in last 14 fights - the TKO against Ludwig was because Ludwig ****** his ankle up.

                                                                  The only argument for Elkins perhaps finishing now is that he's training at Team Alpha Fail so may be more aggressive and clinical
                                                                  V, i have said this to jibby every event. He will continue to use this flawed argument regardless. His signature way of presenting numbers. Its probably on his keyboard. inside distance info from sherdog anno 1994, right underneath the enter button, L O L.
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                                                                  • JoshKnows46
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-27-12
                                                                    • 3691

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by plekz
                                                                    Wow, seeing Latifi and Miranda mentioned in the same vein as Mcgregor in terms of 'solid fighters' really just made me smile. How much of Latifi's career have you been following? Aslong as he's with 'Allstars' he'll never qualify as a solid fighter in any way shape or form. Their coaching overall is dismal.

                                                                    And Latifi has had very favorable fights in the UFC with very clear paths to victory, aside from Blachowicz and in that fight he made amateurish mistakes and ate a liverkick that ended his night.

                                                                    He may very well win saturday, but he should not be as heavily favored as he is currently.
                                                                    I rewatch fights every event, for every fighter, so im aware of what latifi is and isnt, ive now seen all his fights multiple times over, didn't mean it to come off as Latifi is close to mcgregor, or even solid, this entire card is full of muppets, but was just running off names of the people that already won tomorrow night based on matchup and there opps having no path to victory. Why do you believe Latifi shouldn't be this "heavily" favored, how do u see him losing?
                                                                    Last edited by JoshKnows46; 03-02-16, 10:02 AM.
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                      V, i have said this to jibby every event. He will continue to use this flawed argument regardless. His signature way of presenting numbers. Its probably on his keyboard. inside distance info from sherdog anno 1994, right underneath the enter button, L O L.
                                                                      lol

                                                                      it just makes me...
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83686

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                        Jibbbehh, majority of those were at events like ''Bourbon Street Brawl 3'' 10 years ago against some chump! He has 1 finish in last 14 fights - the TKO against Ludwig was because Ludwig ****** his ankle up.

                                                                        The only argument for Elkins perhaps finishing now is that he's training at Team Alpha Fail so may be more aggressive and clinical
                                                                        You don't think I know that V? I understand KO's and Sub's in lessor organizations mean absolutely nothing, it's what fighters have done lately in the big name orginazations and what they have done against stiffer compitition is what matters most... Current training camps and trianing partners as well.

                                                                        Hello!! BJ Penn and V you both groteskly under estimate my MMA capping abilities for effective prop play!!!!!

                                                                        Do I think Elkins can win ITD no. Elkins by decision is the most likely pathway to victory for Elkins if he does win... I just took him straight anyways at +130 as the odds weren't too far away from the Elkins by decision at +175.. Why chance it, stranger things have happened MMA.

                                                                        I also think Skelly's only pathway to victory in this fight is by decision or submission because Elkins can take a hell of a punch and keep on ticking.. He took Jeremy Stevens best shot no problem.. I'm not done playing around with the OVER ROUND bets in this fight..

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