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  • JIBBBY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-10-09
    • 83693

    #176
    Still won't answer my question? It's ok Josh at least you can pick em right from time to time..

    Oh and that's 5 dimes Josh.. 100% Guaranteed!! That is the format.. Same bet with reference numbers below as I copied the entire ticket this time.... I just elect not to copy and paste that numbering part of the ticket. Don't want my account messed with..

    355927985-1 1/20/16 10:38pm $210.00 $159.60 Pending 2 Team Parlay
    Cancelled 1/30/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Sage Northcutt -400* <small>vs</small> Andrew Holbrook
    Pending 1/30/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Tarec Saffiedine -245* <small>vs</small> Jake Ellenberger
    I usually don't show other books but this is bookmaker same bet placed a week ago same day..

    ONLINE
    01/20/2016
    08:40 PM
    [Ticket #: 243183498] PARLAY (2 TEAMS)
    01/30/2016 @ 07:00 PM MU [24314] SAGE NORTHCUTT -375
    (ANDREW HOLBROOK vrs SAGE NORTHCUTT)
    01/30/2016 @ 02:00 PM MU [24318] TAREC SAFFIEDINE -235
    (JAKE ELLENBERGER vrs TAREC SAFFIEDINE)
    202.00 162.70
    I could show you 2 or 3 more just like this on the other books of mine.. I don't like to brag about money bets.. I just wanna win.

    As you can see Bookmaker had better odds then 5dimes on that same parlay play a week ago. I should have never bet it on 5dimes and just doubled up on Bookmaker...I got lazy and still need to improve in this area of gambling..
    Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-27-16, 09:05 PM.
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    • JoshKnows46
      SBR MVP
      • 07-27-12
      • 3691

      #177
      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
      I have no reason to be sbr pro, why would i, I don't do anything with these points jibby
      ...
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      • JoshKnows46
        SBR MVP
        • 07-27-12
        • 3691

        #178
        UFC betting, MMA and Boxing handicapping forum: discuss picks, fighters odds, and predictions for upcoming fights.


        CLICK the link fat boy, just posting this to prove your a lieing fat bitch, and your fukin stupid as dogshit, see that's you there commented under my posted tickets, and I have many more tickets posted. That's what a 5dimes ticket look like queer.
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        • JIBBBY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-10-09
          • 83693

          #179
          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
          http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...n-tonight.html

          CLICK the link fat boy, just posting this to prove your a lieing fat bitch, and your fukin stupid as dogshit, see that's you there commented under my posted tickets, and I have many more tickets posted. That's what a 5dimes ticket look like queer.
          Had to go back 6 months to find that.. Lol... Alrighty then tough guy.. I'll take back the air pumps for now at no charge..

          Got my eye on you pal.. Keep it real!!!




          For some reason the winning amounts don't seem right? Like that Thompson win by Submission at +130.. Just saying?? Was that sub prop really +1300 and the extra 0 is cut off? That fight ended by KO by the way... Good hits on the other bets 6 months ago..

          Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-27-16, 10:50 PM.
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          • JIBBBY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-10-09
            • 83693

            #180
            Josh you forced me to play my hand earlier then I like.. I usually don't show this as I like posting picks during the live events... You think you can beat me hot shot then step up and throw down..

            I got an idea, let's make a 3 dollar entire pending card parlay, copy and paste like I just did below.. If you beat me on the number of straight wins on this card you don't have to pay me any more bet points, I'll call it even and show you respect.... If I win we keep things the same but you need to start showing me some respect!! Like stop the stupid and idiot comments for starters with your retarded posts..

            I don't play powerball so this is my lotto ticket below.. I do this with every event and let's just say I came very close to hitting it with the last UFC card....

            I'll even give you the advantage of seeing my hand first, and you can work off it.. Shall we play a game? Giving you a free chance to win your bet points back.. Beat me Josh if you think you can? This is your chance to pump your chest and shut me down.. Bragging rights..

            NOTE - I could change a play after weigh ins if someone struggles making weight or looks like garbage.. The Tony Martin fight is the one fight I might still change up after weigh ins.... I originally liked Tony Martin but changed my mind..

            $3.00 $11,430.09 Pending 13 Team Parlay
            Pending 1/30/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1001 Ryan Bader +255* <small>vs</small> Anthony Johnson
            Pending 1/30/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ben Rothwell +110* <small>vs</small> Josh Barnett
            Pending 1/30/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Iuri Alcantara +150* <small>vs</small> Jimmie Rivera
            Pending 1/30/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Sage Northcutt -410* <small>vs</small> Bryan Barberena
            Pending 1/30/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Tarec Saffiedine -250* <small>vs</small> Jake Ellenberger
            Pending 1/30/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Olivier Aubin-Mercier -290* <small>vs</small> Carlos Diego Ferreira
            Pending 1/30/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Kevin Casey +145* <small>vs</small> Rafael Natal
            Pending 1/30/16 6:00pm UFC Fighting 1702 Dustin Ortiz -220* <small>vs</small> Wilson Reis
            Pending 1/30/16 5:30pm UFC Fighting 1801 George Sullivan +110* <small>vs</small> Alexander Yakovlev
            Pending 1/30/16 5:00pm UFC Fighting 1901 Alex Caceres -280* <small>vs</small> Masio Fullen
            Pending 1/30/16 4:30pm UFC Fighting 2002 Levan Makashvili -310* <small>vs</small> Damon Jackson
            Pending 1/30/16 4:00pm UFC Fighting 2101 Felipe Olivieri +160* <small>vs</small> Tony Martin
            Pending 1/30/16 3:30pm UFC Fighting 2202 Matt Dwyer +150* <small>vs</small> Randy Brown
            Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-28-16, 12:31 AM.
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #181
              Hope you guys got Matt Dwyer early on like suggested. He's down to +130 currently. Jackson line is staying flat at where I got it basically.
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              • UncleChael
                SBR MVP
                • 10-30-13
                • 3979

                #182
                Originally posted by TPowell
                Hope you guys got Matt Dwyer early on like suggested. He's down to +130 currently. Jackson line is staying flat at where I got it basically.
                I'm betting on Damon Jackson until he wins.
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                • KingHawkins
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-18-13
                  • 1311

                  #183
                  Cmon Jibby, do you REALLY think there is any way that ole Josh is gonna be respectful towards you, or anyone on here, after any string of bad calls, ever? I don't.
                  I fully feel like he'd probably tell his own grandma that she is a stupid moron, unworthy of speaking to him, if she as much as claimed that she EVEN THINKS, that Sexy Sage NorthButt is gonna sub-out Bryan the Barberina Beefcake. Dude just comes across as that much as a pompous jerk to me. Like some mindflucked correctional officer or dirty cop on a delusional power trip. Just my take, though.
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                  • JoshKnows46
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-27-12
                    • 3691

                    #184
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Josh you forced me to play my hand earlier then I like.. I usually don't show this as I like posting picks during the live events... You think you can beat me hot shot then step up and throw down..

                    I got an idea, let's make a 3 dollar entire pending card parlay, copy and paste like I just did below.. If you beat me on the number of straight wins on this card you don't have to pay me any more bet points, I'll call it even and show you respect.... If I win we keep things the same but you need to start showing me some respect!! Like stop the stupid and idiot comments for starters with your retarded posts..

                    I don't play powerball so this is my lotto ticket below.. I do this with every event and let's just say I came very close to hitting it with the last UFC card....

                    I'll even give you the advantage of seeing my hand first, and you can work off it.. Shall we play a game? Giving you a free chance to win your bet points back.. Beat me Josh if you think you can? This is your chance to pump your chest and shut me down.. Bragging rights..

                    NOTE - I could change a play after weigh ins if someone struggles making weight or looks like garbage.. The Tony Martin fight is the one fight I might still change up after weigh ins.... I originally liked Tony Martin but changed my mind..

                    $3.00 $11,430.09 Pending 13 Team Parlay
                    Pending 1/30/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1001 Ryan Bader +255* <small>vs</small> Anthony Johnson
                    Pending 1/30/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ben Rothwell +110* <small>vs</small> Josh Barnett
                    Pending 1/30/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Iuri Alcantara +150* <small>vs</small> Jimmie Rivera
                    Pending 1/30/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Sage Northcutt -410* <small>vs</small> Bryan Barberena
                    Pending 1/30/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Tarec Saffiedine -250* <small>vs</small> Jake Ellenberger
                    Pending 1/30/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Olivier Aubin-Mercier -290* <small>vs</small> Carlos Diego Ferreira
                    Pending 1/30/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Kevin Casey +145* <small>vs</small> Rafael Natal
                    Pending 1/30/16 6:00pm UFC Fighting 1702 Dustin Ortiz -220* <small>vs</small> Wilson Reis
                    Pending 1/30/16 5:30pm UFC Fighting 1801 George Sullivan +110* <small>vs</small> Alexander Yakovlev
                    Pending 1/30/16 5:00pm UFC Fighting 1901 Alex Caceres -280* <small>vs</small> Masio Fullen
                    Pending 1/30/16 4:30pm UFC Fighting 2002 Levan Makashvili -310* <small>vs</small> Damon Jackson
                    Pending 1/30/16 4:00pm UFC Fighting 2101 Felipe Olivieri +160* <small>vs</small> Tony Martin
                    Pending 1/30/16 3:30pm UFC Fighting 2202 Matt Dwyer +150* <small>vs</small> Randy Brown
                    Dont Be a pus.sy jibby, you can't buy or win respect, you must earn it. If you try to talk down to me, make up lies, I'm gonna say what I want to say. If you say something stupid, I'm gonna call u stupid. I don't bet every fight on the card, and I don't want any points.
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                    • TPowell
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-21-08
                      • 18842

                      #185
                      Starting to look harder at Dustin Ortiz. Wilson Reis has been dropped once by his last FIVE opponents. Those guys include Joby Sanchez and Scott Jorgensen. Ortiz is better everywhere than Reis and should get a finish if he decides to keep the fight standing. Very comfortably parlay piece at worst
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                      • bjpenn85
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-17-11
                        • 5059

                        #186
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        Starting to look harder at Dustin Ortiz. Wilson Reis has been dropped once by his last FIVE opponents. Those guys include Joby Sanchez and Scott Jorgensen. Ortiz is better everywhere than Reis and should get a finish if he decides to keep the fight standing. Very comfortably parlay piece at worst
                        Can reis win any other way than a sub?
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                        • TPowell
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                          • 02-21-08
                          • 18842

                          #187
                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                          Can reis win any other way than a sub?
                          I think top control decision is more likely but still not very likely in general
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                          • TPowell
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-21-08
                            • 18842

                            #188
                            Just punched in my fade of OAM with Ferreira at +215. Not sure what ITD is but that would be a much better play. Just don't have access to it personally as of yet
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                            • TPowell
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                              • 02-21-08
                              • 18842

                              #189
                              Look at the guys that Ferreira and OAM have fought. Outside of Laprise, OAM has fought 3 guys that don't even belong in the UFC. To put it bluntly, one of the worst cans in the UFC Jake Lindsey held his own in the striking with him. Tony Sims was clueless as far as defendng the takedown and had nothing off his back either. Michaud is basically a poor mans OAM so obviously he matched up well with him. I think Ferreira will end up on the mat in this fight, but he's still the best defensive wrestler that OAM has saw in 3 fights and is BY FAR the most dangerous off his back.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                • 08-29-08
                                • 20423

                                #190
                                I agree 100%....
                                Originally posted by TPowell
                                Look at the guys that Ferreira and OAM have fought. Outside of Laprise, OAM has fought 3 guys that don't even belong in the UFC. To put it bluntly, one of the worst cans in the UFC Jake Lindsey held his own in the striking with him. Tony Sims was clueless as far as defendng the takedown and had nothing off his back either. Michaud is basically a poor mans OAM so obviously he matched up well with him. I think Ferreira will end up on the mat in this fight, but he's still the best defensive wrestler that OAM has saw in 3 fights and is BY FAR the most dangerous off his back.
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                                • PaperTrail07
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                                  • 08-29-08
                                  • 20423

                                  #191
                                  Same reason I cant justify betting Kevin Casey....Natal is the play....Casey is a cardio gas bum that has only beat unskilled fighters.....thats it
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                                  • JIBBBY
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 83693

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    Starting to look harder at Dustin Ortiz. Wilson Reis has been dropped once by his last FIVE opponents. Those guys include Joby Sanchez and Scott Jorgensen. Ortiz is better everywhere than Reis and should get a finish if he decides to keep the fight standing. Very comfortably parlay piece at worst
                                    I'm liking Ortiz by decision myself in this one.. The over is a solid play also...Both durable fighters, Weis is dangerous on the ground with 0 KO's on his pro record.. I think Dustin Ortiz is more athletic and active so he should win rounds on points.. Ortiz probably has the better gas tank also if I had to guess.. Ortiz has never been sub'd so Weis is gonna have a hard time making him tap if they get to grappling... Ortiz has never been finished.. Tough guy.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dustin-Ortiz-58097

                                    The play is Ortiz by decision I believe..... The split dec might happen as Weis should make this a close enough fight though..

                                    $110.00 $100.00 Pending 1/30/16 6:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Ortiz wins by 3 round decision -110* <small>vs</small> Not Ortiz by 3 round decision
                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-28-16, 12:23 PM.
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                                    • TPowell
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                      Same reason I cant justify betting Kevin Casey....Natal is the play....Casey is a cardio gas bum that has only beat unskilled fighters.....thats it
                                      I agree. Natal's chin is a little worrisome if Casey lands a lucky shot but its another fight where I think one guy is better in every area. Casey is a massive guy though
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                                      • TPowell
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-21-08
                                        • 18842

                                        #194
                                        still can't believe the price on Barnett is coming down like it is. I'm not sure how anyone can think Rothwell is the better fighter.
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83693

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by TPowell
                                          still can't believe the price on Barnett is coming down like it is. I'm not sure how anyone can think Rothwell is the better fighter.
                                          I hit Rothwell straight at +160 many moons ago because of the favorable odds at the time but yes the line going down to +110 now is a bit surprising to see..

                                          Ben sizes up well with Barnett and I'm not so sure Barnett can bully the larger man with ease.. The betting public including myself obviously think Rothwell has been on a very good roll lately winning 3 straight fights.

                                          Ben Roth comes in at max weight and in good shape.. Barnett may grind out the win here by decision but it won't be easy. Barnett is a 38 year aging veteran fighter now and 34 year old Ben Rothwell is probably in his MMA prime, fighting his best and peaking right now..

                                          Barnett won a decision against a gassed out 40 year old Roy Nelson in his last fight and before that he got dropped by Travis Brown in a bad way.. His last respectable win is really 3 years ago against Frank Mir.. B Roth will be a tough match up for Barnett watch..

                                          Makes for a good fight anyways.. Should be a close scrap IMO...

                                          I am guilty of hedging with this... I think I'm covered in this fight either way....

                                          Pending1/30/16 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1107 Barnett wins by 3 round decision +290* <small>vs</small> Not Barnett by 3 round decision
                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-28-16, 01:16 PM.
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                                          • Killer_Demo
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-15-08
                                            • 8409

                                            #196
                                            Only play for me

                                            Bader vs Johnson over 1 1/2 -125
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                                            • TPowell
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-21-08
                                              • 18842

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              I hit Rothwell straight at +160 many moons ago because of the favorable odds at the time but yes the line going down to +110 now is a bit surprising to see..

                                              Ben sizes up well with Barnett and I'm not so sure Barnett can bully the larger man with ease.. The betting public including myself obviously think Rothwell has been on a very good roll lately winning 3 straight fights.

                                              Ben Roth comes in at max weight and in good shape.. Barnett may grind out the win here by decision but it won't be easy. Barnett is a 38 year aging veteran fighter now and 34 year old Ben Rothwell is probably in his MMA prime, fighting his best and peaking right now..

                                              Barnett won a decision against a gassed out 40 year old Roy Nelson in his last fight and before that he got dropped by Travis Brown in a bad way.. His last respectable win is really 3 years ago against Frank Mir.. B Roth will be a tough match up for Barnett watch..

                                              Makes for a good fight anyways.. Should be a close scrap IMO...

                                              I am guilty of hedging with this... I think I'm covered in this fight either way....

                                              Pending1/30/16 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1107 Barnett wins by 3 round decision +290* <small>vs</small> Not Barnett by 3 round decision

                                              check that Browne fight again. Browne used completely illegal elbows to knock him out. Barnett is the more durable and skilled fighter in this one. Barnett is bigger and the harder puncher but that is it
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                                              • JIBBBY
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83693

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by TPowell
                                                check that Browne fight again. Browne used completely illegal elbows to knock him out. Barnett is the more durable and skilled fighter in this one. Barnett is bigger and the harder puncher but that is it
                                                Yep I remember that fight well. Travis was still getting the better of Josh and like I said it ended in a nasty way for Josh.. I think Travis would have finished him even if he didn't rapid fire land those legal side of the head elbows against the cage.. Just my opinion.. Here are some gifs I pulled...

                                                Slow mo where those elbows landed.. Side of the head not back of the head..



                                                I think this up knee did in Josh before those elbow strikes were even delivered... The elbows were just finishing touches on the cake...



                                                Ben Rothwell is much bigger then Travis Brown and I can see him landing some same nasty elbows to the side of Josh's head at some point after he shoots in low and or clinches up and drops down.. It's a blue print to follow.. We all know Josh will clinch up too.. B Roth has 20 ko's on his record and can hit pretty hard for a big man regardless from any angle......
                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-28-16, 03:40 PM.
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                                                • TPowell
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                                                  • 02-21-08
                                                  • 18842

                                                  #199
                                                  elbows looked pretty 12-6 to me
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                                                  • UncleChael
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                                                    • 10-30-13
                                                    • 3979

                                                    #200
                                                    ​Let's go, Big BEN! He's going to get it done. LETS GETTTTTTTTT ITTTTTTT, BOYS!!
                                                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Nm6XCOYD_Zk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>
                                                    Last edited by UncleChael; 01-28-16, 03:55 PM.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83693

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by TPowell
                                                      Just punched in my fade of OAM with Ferreira at +215. Not sure what ITD is but that would be a much better play. Just don't have access to it personally as of yet
                                                      1509 Ferreira wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_99" name="radiox" type="radio">+410
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                                                      • TPowell
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                                                        • 02-21-08
                                                        • 18842

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        1509 Ferreira wins inside distance <input id="radiox" value="M1_99" name="radiox" type="radio">+410
                                                        well screw me. That is incredible. Great wrestler versus great BJJ and the great BJJ guy (and the better striker probably) is getting +410
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83693

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by TPowell
                                                          well screw me. That is incredible. Great wrestler versus great BJJ and the great BJJ guy (and the better striker probably) is getting +410
                                                          Not a bad prop hedge play to consider if you're on OAM straight or in a parlay either....
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                                                          • TPowell
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                                                            • 02-21-08
                                                            • 18842

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            Not a bad prop hedge play to consider if you're on OAM straight or in a parlay either....
                                                            I wouldn't touch OAM if this line was at -150 to be honest with you. I really like Ferreira here. All I hear is how he looks to counter too much and won't be aggressive enough to keep OAM from doing what he wants. If this fight happens mostly on the ground, Ferreira WILL get into an advantageous position or two at least. From there, he's incredibly dangerous. If the fight happens more on the feet than expected, its even better. OAM just isn't a very good striker to say the least
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83693

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by TPowell
                                                              I wouldn't touch OAM if this line was at -150 to be honest with you. I really like Ferreira here. All I hear is how he looks to counter too much and won't be aggressive enough to keep OAM from doing what he wants. If this fight happens mostly on the ground, Ferreira WILL get into an advantageous position or two at least. From there, he's incredibly dangerous. If the fight happens more on the feet than expected, its even better. OAM just isn't a very good striker to say the least
                                                              IDK Tpow? I tend to lean towards the tough, grinder with better wrestling in OAM.. He could just clinch up standing against the cage and grind on Ferreira to a decision win. He's a strong dude and always comes into fights in great shape..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Olivi...nMercier-86241 . Those were my initial thoughts on this fight..

                                                              Then I thought maybe Ferreira has a chance at a sub win also if it becomes a grappling affair of sorts. Still it's much harder to land subs from the bottom position and OAM has pretty slick submission game going on himself. It's not at the level of Ferreirra but pretty slick never the less.... So it's a tough fight to call but I lean towards the guy with better take downs, cardio, strength, toughness, wrestling and top control and that's gonna be OAM...

                                                              I don't see a big advantage in the striking department either way like you do TPow..

                                                              Slick sub

                                                              Strong clinch game and grinder....
                                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-28-16, 04:49 PM.
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                                                              • TPowell
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                                                                • 02-21-08
                                                                • 18842

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                IDK Tpow? I tend to lean towards the tough, grinder with better wrestling in OAM.. He could just clinch up standing against the cage and grind on Ferreira to a decision win. He's a strong dude and always comes into fights in great shape..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Olivi...nMercier-86241 . Those were my initial thoughts on this fight..

                                                                Then I thought maybe Ferreira has a chance at a sub win also if it becomes a grappling affair of sorts. Still it's much harder to land subs from the bottom position and OAM has pretty slick submission game going on himself. It's not at the level of Ferreirra but pretty slick never the less.... So it's a tough fight to call but I lean towards the guy with better take downs, cardio, strength, toughness, wrestling and top control and that's gonna be OAM...

                                                                I don't see a big advantage in the striking department either way like you do TPow..





                                                                do me a favor and look at the competition both guys have faced. OAM has fought nobodies and guys he matched up with very well.
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                                                                • UncleChael
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                                                                  • 10-30-13
                                                                  • 3979

                                                                  #207
                                                                  big ben rothwell wins or i will leave sbr, forever.
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                                                                  • capone1899
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-16-11
                                                                    • 1054

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                    big ben rothwell wins or i will leave sbr, forever.
                                                                    See ya
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                                                                    • TPowell
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-21-08
                                                                      • 18842

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                                      big ben rothwell wins or i will leave sbr, forever.
                                                                      fire up that ghost account
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83693

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                                                        do me a favor and look at the competition both guys have faced. OAM has fought nobodies and guys he matched up with very well.
                                                                        Oh I agree Tpow, I just looked at the style match ups more then anything in this fight.. The Canadian is gritty and has that Jon Fitch style of fighting going on and it works for him.. Still I do agree with you that the odds are bit off so I can't knock you for going with Ferreirra at all.. Not a bad dog try..

                                                                        I don't have much riding on this fight but I did throw OAM in a parlay, OAM wins by decision at -110 and also have the over in this fight -220 parlayed up as well..

                                                                        I may still hedge a bit with Ferreirra ITD though at that +410 after I work the numbers out....
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