UFC 179: Aldo vs. Mendes 2 (October 25, 2014)

**JIBBBY** · 10-23-14, 05:46 PM

I honestly think we may see Phil get dropped for the first time in this one.. Glover is a different kind of striker in sense that his boxing skills are a bit more honed then Rumble Johnson's.. With that being said I'm not so sure Phil can escape the big punches in this one like he did against Rumble....

Prop 1133 - Glover Tex wins by TKO/KO +230

Back up to consider - Prop 1131 - Glover Tex win by sub +1075...... just in case...

This is a 3 rounder and if by chance it goes the distance both props blow up in your face though......

**bjpenn85** · 10-23-14, 05:47 PM

what i mean is, fighters loosing significantly or for instance have to put on a performance to save their job, that often lead to a must win situation. We all know if you need to win, you suddenly do everything in your power to perform. Im not so sure glover has this mindset going into this fight

**Sacrelicious** · 10-23-14, 05:48 PM

Phil Davids has never won a bareknuckle boxing match, I doubt this will be any different.

**marzwoody** · 10-23-14, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

what i mean is, fighters loosing significantly or for instance have to put on a performance to save their job, that often lead to a must win situation. We all know if you need to win, you suddenly do everything in your power to perform. Im not so sure glover has this mindset going into this fight

Glover seems motivated.

Teixeira vows to beat Davis' face at UFC 179

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/21/6074361/glover-teixeira-phil-davis-ufc-179-mma-news

Back to his roots for UFC 179, Glover Teixeira plans to dominate Phil Davis and fight another top contender to earn another shot at ‘that f---ing belt’ in 2015.

**plekz** · 10-23-14, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I honestly think we may see Phil get dropped for the first time in this one.. Glover is a different kind of striker in sense that his boxing skills are a bit more honed then Rumble Johnson's.. With that being said I'm not so sure Phil can escape the big punches in this one like he did against Rumble....

Prop 1133 - Glover Tex wins by TKO/KO +230

Back up to consider - Prop 1131 - Glover Tex win by sub +1075...... just in case...

This is a 5 rounder and if by chance it goes the distance both props blow up in your face though......

It's a three round fight you dolt.

Originally posted by marzwoody

You got dog goggles on. Rumble light on his feet lol. in that fight he walked forward and threw bombs. its not like he was prancing around the octagon. i look forward to hearing your walk anaysis on the next ufc card though. whether guys "walk heavy" or not.

In the sense that he's so explosive and athletic yes, it allows him to be very light on his feet and easily close distance or stuff takedowns. The whole point is that GT possesses NONE of these traits. He's a plodding boxer who'll occasionally throw kicks or look to work takedowns from the clinch. Rashad and A.J share the same kind of athletic traits.

**JIBBBY** · 10-23-14, 06:13 PM

^^ You're right it's a 3 rounder and not 5.. I'm an idiot for posting that.. Brain fart.... My bad!!!! Thanks for the correction Plekz... Gonnn edit that now....

**Sacrelicious** · 10-23-14, 06:20 PM

I have seen nothing to suggest Phil Davids could win a 12 round fight.

**JIBBBY** · 10-23-14, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

I have seen nothing to suggest Phil Davids could win a 12 round fight.

**Sacrelicious** · 10-23-14, 06:46 PM

I just don't see how Phil Davids can beat Glover in a Pancrase exhibition.

**areallycoolguy** · 10-23-14, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

what i mean is, fighters loosing significantly or for instance have to put on a performance to save their job, that often lead to a must win situation. We all know if you need to win, you suddenly do everything in your power to perform. Im not so sure glover has this mindset going into this fight

glover is not an emotional guy and neither is phil

mentality i dont see being a factor in this fight at all

glover very much a workman profile, simple, active, strong, and wont give up or break. phil kinda the same but he gets in his own head sometimes. he's not as bad psyching himself out as rashad for instance, but im not sure if his psychology will allow him to find his real potential in this sport.

looking at this fight if im joe silva im probably trying to put phil over, he can strike from the outside, shoot without to much worry, throw kicks as he wishes for the most part.

what i think really affected phil vs rumble was rumbles combination of length, speed, physicality, and all around technique particularly with kicks and wrestling. being a long guy who is also fast and can kick really killed the only offense phil typicaly is able to use in fights-- mid kicks from the outside, circling out w potshot right hand / left hook counters... long light jabs... he got hit early and clean by rumble and knew quickly that he couldn't just throw what he was planning to and survive easily

with glover the distance will be totally different. still i wouldnt be surprised to see glover take a crappy decision in a boring fight where he wins by using feints, backing up phil near the cage and landing a few more glancing blows to phil. especially if phil cant get more than 2 takedowns

**Sacrelicious** · 10-23-14, 07:36 PM

This roshambo match up is a joke, Phil Davids would lose it almost every time.

**Sacrelicious** · 10-24-14, 12:17 AM

No way in hell Phil Davids wins this cricket game.

**Vaughany** · 10-24-14, 03:47 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^ You're right it's a 3 rounder and not 5.. I'm an idiot for posting that.. Brain fart.... My bad!!!! Thanks for the correction Plekz... Gonnn edit that now....

lmao

all the bleacher articles and researching you do and you dont know how many rounds the fight is! classic

**marzwoody** · 10-24-14, 08:41 AM

Glover Teixeira: I believe in my wrestling

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/10/24/7052857/glover-teixeira-phil-davis-brazilians-end-with-knockout

Phil Davis is undefeated against Brazilians in the UFC, but light heavyweight contender Glover Teixeira wants to end this streak at UFC 179.

**JIBBBY** · 10-24-14, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

lmao

all the bleacher articles and researching you do and you dont know how many rounds the fight is! classic

I read so much, I watch so many fights, I typo out so many posts, I drink, and once in a while I get fights mixed up when ripped off the vino.. So I slipped this one time, and now ya wanna kill me... Ruthless forum with all it's inhabitants!!!!

I've made a huge mistake and shit happens... Now piss off mate... LOL..

**Rubber Guard** · 10-24-14, 03:52 PM

Lol i love jibb. How can you not?

**Sacrelicious** · 10-24-14, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

Lol i love jibb. How can you not?

There are so many reasons. I hate to say it, but he has grown on me, my disposition towards him has changed from extremely hostile to cautious.

**Sacrelicious** · 10-24-14, 05:10 PM

I don't see how Phil Davids could possibly beat Glover in this board breaking competition.

**mirinquads** · 10-24-14, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Glover is a different kind of striker in sense that his boxing skills are a bit more honed then Rumble Johnson's.. .

No... no they are not at all.

**Sacrelicious** · 10-24-14, 06:02 PM

I can't understand how Phil Davids can win this shot-for-shot headbutt challenge.

**JIBBBY** · 10-24-14, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

No... no they are not at all.

Rumble fights a bit stiffer with his striking... Glover more like a fluent boxer... I also think Glover might hit harder too.. Rumble can bang though and he is still improving while Glover might be peaking right now...

Slight differences between the two.. End result regardless is that both can beat down Phil Davis...

**Beelzebubzy** · 10-24-14, 06:25 PM

You're wrong.

**mirinquads** · 10-24-14, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Rumble fights a bit stiffer with his striking... Glover more like a fluent boxer... I also think Glover might hit harder too.. Rumble can bang though and he is still improving while Glover might be peaking right now...

Slight differences between the two.. End result regardless is that both can beat down Phil Davis...

No, Glover is WAY more one dimensional.. ALL he does is trying to cross counter and throw a hook after. And he doesn't really kick. He's a much worse striker than Rumble.

Weighin

A lot of missed weight or close, especially Joergeson looks like a deflated bag of dogshit. Aldo and Mendes both looking excellent.. Not many other surprises.

**Vaughany** · 10-24-14, 06:36 PM

Lol,check out the Conor Q and A over there in Brazil...just a stream of abuse!

**marzwoody** · 10-24-14, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

No, Glover is WAY more one dimensional.. ALL he does is trying to cross counter and throw a hook after. And he doesn't really kick. He's a much worse striker than Rumble.

He looked good beating up ex pro boxer Maldonado.

**marzwoody** · 10-24-14, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Lol,check out the Conor Q and A over there in Brazil...just a stream of abuse!

They must of saw the vlog were he asks the driver to take him to Aldo's favela. bad move

**mirinquads** · 10-24-14, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by marzwoody

He looked good beating up ex pro boxer Maldonado.

Maldonaldo is a dogshit boxer. Leads with his face in exchanges, no headmovement, no defense. Tailormade for Glover to smash.

Glover is probably gonna be more effective on the feet than Davis, but he's far from Rumbles level.

**marzwoody** · 10-24-14, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Maldonaldo is a dogshit boxer. Leads with his face in exchanges, no headmovement, no defense. Tailormade for Glover to smash.

Glover is probably gonna be more effective on the feet than Davis, but he's far from Rumbles level.

I don't disagree. but i would happily take Glover as dog if they fight.

**marzwoody** · 10-24-14, 07:01 PM

Toxoplasmosis is strong with the brazilian crowd.

**Sacrelicious** · 10-24-14, 10:53 PM

I just don't understand how Phil Davids could beat Glover in the next season of America's Top Model.

**mirinquads** · 10-24-14, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

I just don't understand how Phil Davids could beat Glover in the next season of America's Top Model.

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MD · 10-24-14, 11:55 PM

Did you see how bad Scott Jorgensen looked at the weigh ins? All of the colour was gone from his skin.

**Rubber Guard** · 10-25-14, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by mirinquads

No, Glover is WAY more one dimensional.. ALL he does is trying to cross counter and throw a hook after. And he doesn't really kick. He's a much worse striker than Rumble.

Weighin

A lot of missed weight or close, especially Joergeson looks like a deflated bag of dogshit. Aldo and Mendes both looking excellent.. Not many other surprises.

Dont agree. Hes not some elite guy striking. But way better?

Youre wrong.

Also tex is a much better wrestler/overall grappler.

**mirinquads** · 10-25-14, 11:30 AM

I know you want to justify your plays on Glover, and that's all good, but stop saying things that are not true.

**JIBBBY** · 10-25-14, 12:59 PM

Finding a hard time picking dogs with this entire card.. Only 2 dog plays in Felipe Arantes +125 and Hans Stringer +105 up on the board for me.. I also have Kotani at +525 for really small (long shot) against the former Jits world champ..

On all the other favorites... Those are my straight plays..

Not sold on Jorgenson after seeing the weigh ins either.. Dude had trouble making weight and looked soft..