UFC Fight Night: Bader vs. Saint Preux (August 16, 2014)
firekillex
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OSP
Boetsch
Formiga
possibly camoes . i think maynards chin is shot but this is a toss up
and maybe even ross pearson, i think that fights a toss up as well
dogs all day
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Skel
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#3
On Ryan the Master here.
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Bumdeal
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#4
Originally posted by firekillex
OSP
Boetsch
Formiga
possibly camoes . i think maynards chin is shot but this is a toss up
and maybe even ross pearson, i think that fights a toss up as well
dogs all day
bet against Makovsky and say byebye to your money
I am huge on fun size.
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Skel
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#5
Originally posted by Bumdeal
bet against Makovsky and say byebye to your money
I am huge on fun size.
Missed the -210 opener . Dunno about paying -280.
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firekillex
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#6
ive watched the past few fights of zach makovsky and he does look really good, but his losses come from submission oriented fighters which would fit formigas bill.. 3 out of 4 of his losses by submission, he is a talented wrestler thats no doubt, if there wasnt so much juice id probably go with him. But at +200 ill go with formiga all day, half of his wins by sub, his only losses lately have been from benevidez and dodson which are 2 of the top 3 fighters in the division, he just beat the guy fighting for the title a few fights ago and subbed a very game jorgenson as well
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Bumdeal
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#7
Originally posted by Skel
Missed the -210 opener . Dunno about paying -280.
I missed the opener too and still played it large and put him in a few parlays. One with Brad Tavares and another with McMann. Lauren Taylor is gonna spend time on her back. Really shouldn't even be undefeated, not taking anything away from her though.
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Bumdeal
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#8
Originally posted by firekillex
ive watched the past few fights of zach makovsky and he does look really good, but his losses come from submission oriented fighters which would fit formigas bill.. 3 out of 4 of his losses by submission, he is a talented wrestler thats no doubt, if there wasnt so much juice id probably go with him. But at +200 ill go with formiga all day, half of his wins by sub, his only losses lately have been from benevidez and dodson which are 2 of the top 3 fighters in the division, he just beat the guy fighting for the title a few fights ago and subbed a very game jorgenson as well
Hasn't lost in 2 years and can't really count a loss to the very talented Dantas against him. Also 2 of those subs were 6 years ago dude.
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mirinquads
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#9
He subbed Jorgenson after a blatant headbutt. Formiga is also by far best on top, which i see him having a hard time getting against Markovsky. Would def. bet him by finish though, if you want to bet him. That's the only way he wins.
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Bumdeal
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#10
I see a lot I like here actually.
Alvey
tavares x2
trujillo
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Lick496
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#11
loving these lines. ive been getting burned every time i bet early lately though so i might wait
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firekillex
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#12
mcmann and thiago tavares i like in a parlay to
i already mavovksy is definitely stronger fighter but with +200 odds il go with formiga all day at least 40% of winning this fight id say the juice is way to large at -250 to be laying on a fight that could easily go either way..
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JIBBBY
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12-10-09
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#13
Locksmith delivers once again!!!
OSP is a bit overrated and Ryan Bader has the wrestling.. If Ryan doesn't get clocked standing first and can take OSP down he wins the fight.. It's just that simple..
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Lick496
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12-07-11
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#14
Originally posted by JIBBBY
Locksmith delivers once again!!!
OSP is a bit overrated and Ryan Bader has the wrestling.. If Ryan doesn't get clocked standing first and can take OSP down he wins the fight.. It's just that simple..
OSP was 26-1 in college wrestling, and has never been taken down in the UFC
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Keyboard Warrior
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lol at that line on McMann. Murphy did not fluke into that Nakamoto win. The tide was turning. Nakamoto had a busted up nose in the 2nd round and was getting hit with clean jabs and losing the 3rd until the knee injury. Murphy was cruising to a 48-47 win.
Murphy is bigger, stronger, has a better guard, better striking, better footwork and better cardio. Literally the only area McMann wins is wrestling. Murphy is almost impossible to hold down if you're not bigger than her. Murphy's sweeps are better and McMann is packing serious glass in the jaw line. Mcmann was dropped by Baszler who has never dropped anyone her entire career. If Murphy sweeps and is on top the fight is over. Murphy has the best ground and pound in the division.
Also re watched the Gaff fight and McMann struggled with the take down after the stand up and took multiple shots in the clinch. Gaff was taken down much easier by Nunes which shows Mcmann's wrestling does not translate well. Throw in Murphy's superior footwork, Reach and jab this line is simply reversed. Only way McMann wins is a decision while trying not to get shattered glass all over the ring.
Bloodiing Nakamoto's nose shows the power Murphy has. Also Murphy trained herself until this camp. She is at Ben Henderson's camp in Arizona and training full time for the first time at a real MMA camp. Mcmann is still training with nobody in South Carolina.
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Skel
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#16
Originally posted by Lick496
OSP was 26-1 in college wrestling, and has never been taken down in the UFC
26-1 in high school wrestling. He played football in college.
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Lick496
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12-07-11
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#17
Originally posted by Skel
26-1 in high school wrestling. He played football in college.
Ooops!
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Keyboard Warrior
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06-07-14
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#18
McMann is one of the biggest hype jobs in history, she is getting owned and the most likely way is by KO. Probably the most brutal KO in women's ufc yet.
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marzwoody
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#19
^ But how is Murphys takedown defence? what if McMann just holds her down for 3 rounds? im watching Murphys recent fights now, but you have more knowledge in this field sider.
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MD
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#20
Anyone betting McMann is a square. Keyboard Warrior is right, she's a regional-level fighter with a silver medal so people assume she's good. She's only marginally more skilled than Cody McKenzie, even at wrestling. Cody would take her down and guillotine her within seconds.
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marzwoody
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01-03-14
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#21
I know shes terrible. i knew a soon as i watched her fights when i heard she was fighting rousey. the womens division is terrible.
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Keyboard Warrior
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#22
Murphy was tripped by Nakamoto and Young got her down too. But I honestly think both those women are stronger than McMann. this is a mismatch and Nick SUCKlikas has that can McMann as the fav. F-cking comedy hour. And I agree. Womens MMA is f-cking garbage. cant wait till Rousey retires and no one gives a shit about this stuff anymore. Honestly they should be on Invicta so only lonely desperate cuckholds and white knights can continue to enjoy watching women take severe beatings.
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Bumdeal
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#23
Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
Murphy was tripped by Nakamoto and Young got her down too. But I honestly think both those women are stronger than McMann. this is a mismatch and Nick SUCKlikas has that can McMann as the fav. F-cking comedy hour. And I agree. Womens MMA is f-cking garbage. cant wait till Rousey retires and no one gives a shit about this stuff anymore. Honestly they should be on Invicta so only lonely desperate cuckholds and white knights can continue to enjoy watching women take severe beatings.
how much money did you lose on McMann vs Rousey? you sang her praises from the rooftops and now you couldn't act more bitter. she succumbed to a fate that just about everyone that steps in the cage with Rousey has.. no shame in that, imo.
stronger or not, neither of those individuals have the wrestling credentials that McMann has.
i expect to see McMann take Murphy down early and often, and pressure Murphy whenever she manages to scramble. Murphy won't be able to use her superior striking when she has a blanket draped around her the entire fight.
also, whoa:
Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
Honestly they should be on Invicta so only lonely desperate cuckholds and white knights can continue to enjoy watching women take severe beatings.
you sound pretty ignorant here. i don't think you need to be a white knight to accept that women want to compete in this sport. only men can give each other brain damage? i've seen *many* excited wmma fights. i can't tell if you're trolling or not here because 85% of the posts on this sub-forum are satire.
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Keyboard Warrior
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#24
this is why womens mma sucks. No one can discuss the fighters and skills. Always a white knight that wants to f-ck the fighter. McMann is a extremely limited fighter. I think Rousey is pretty garbage too. But she's beating on housewives trained by their Boyfriends so people lose their god damn minds. I didnt say women shouldnt do mma. I said they shouldnt be in the UFC. and I dont enjoy watching women bleed and get beat up. If you do I think you're a freak. If that makes me sexist I dont care. Im here to make money and gamble. Just so happens women sports have the softest lines available. I think I lost 1200 on Mcmann vs Rousey.
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Bumdeal
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#25
if i enjoy watching women bleed and beat each other up as much as I do men, and that sentiment makes you uncomfortable.. who is the white knight?
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Keyboard Warrior
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#26
Im not talking about jumping in and saving one of these dykes. Im talking about arguing that the fighters or fights are good and they're clearly not. Yeah Tate vs Carmouche was a barn burner. Most of these UFC fights suck shit. Including the ROnda 5 second blow outs. These fights suck plain and simple.
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What a waste of time for Gegard, must be a nice guy...
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Maybe you guys are not getting this, let me explain... When I wrestle with a female Olympic silver medalist in wrestling, it feels like wrestling with a 12 year old... You think a woman will beat a man in a fight? Lmao!!!
punchdrunkMMA
Why not just say Sara McMann since she's clearly the "12-year old" in question given her resume and the time she spent training at Tristar?
And there is nothing worse than arguing these fighters skills than with another wmma fan. They're delusional. McMann is not pressuring or taking anyone down. Her wrestling sucks in mma just like Munoz's D1 championship wrestling sucks in mma.
I dont want to watch manlet fights or women fights. I want to watch people that actually can do something special.
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Keyboard Warrior
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06-07-14
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#28
womens sports, im so hyped
Major League Eating > Womens mma
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PunisherIND
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#29
Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
womens sports, im so hyped
Major League Eating > Womens mma
hahahaha wtf division 1a hip hop!?! and how do a bunch of white chicks win? no wonder she went full retard.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
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#30
White knightz galore. my favorite WMMA fighters in terms of interest, everyone else is irrelevant to me.
Money to made on all these crappy women.. I say let em keep fighting and keep boring us all.. I actually have been winning money off these female cans ever since the UFC incorporated womens MMA...
I'm on Mcmann by the way.. Her wrasling, pressure and clinch game should smother the striking of Murphy.. I don't see an upset happening here..
And there is nothing worse than arguing these fighters skills than with another wmma fan. They're delusional. McMann is not pressuring or taking anyone down. Her wrestling sucks in mma just like Munoz's D1 championship wrestling sucks in mma.
I dont want to watch manlet fights or women fights. I want to watch people that actually can do something special.
And there is nothing worse than arguing these fighters skills than with another wmma fan. They're delusional. McMann is not pressuring or taking anyone down. Her wrestling sucks in mma just like Munoz's D1 championship wrestling sucks in mma.
I dont want to watch manlet fights or women fights. I want to watch people that actually can do something special.
i'm just an mma fan. you can put two grandma's in the cage and as long as they know how to keep top control and work some gnp i'm watching with a wager placed on Mildred
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Keyboard Warrior
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#34
yeah people should know I do not like mma in the least. I cared from 2002-2010. I do not live bet. I read the play by play and watch torrents for capping purposes with the sound off.
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Crassus
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#35
Originally posted by Keyboard Warrior
Murphy was tripped by Nakamoto and Young got her down too. But I honestly think both those women are stronger than McMann. this is a mismatch and Nick SUCKlikas has that can McMann as the fav. F-cking comedy hour. And I agree. Womens MMA is f-cking garbage. cant wait till Rousey retires and no one gives a shit about this stuff anymore. Honestly they should be on Invicta so only lonely desperate cuckholds and white knights can continue to enjoy watching women take severe beatings.