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  • reigle9
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    • 10-25-07
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    #1
    Bellator 101
    2.5u Pays +166
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  • MD
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    • 01-31-12
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    #2
    I took Brooks -280. Like it. Didn't get to finish watching tape. I actually started 'capping that fight just an hour ago. Awful timing.
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    • reigle9
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      #3
      I'll also probably parlay Held/Coy on the undercard.
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      • reigle9
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        #4
        Originally posted by MD
        I took Brooks -280. Like it. Didn't get to finish watching tape. I actually started 'capping that fight just an hour ago. Awful timing.
        Lines are moving fast, glad I was sitting here when they came out.

        Sarnavskiy -395
        Brooks -310
        Tirloni -230

        I really think all three should roll pretty easily. Tirloni has bitten me in the ass more than once though.
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        • MD
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          #5
          Originally posted by reigle9
          Lines are moving fast, glad I was sitting here when they came out.

          Sarnavskiy -395
          Brooks -310
          Tirloni -230

          I really think all three should roll pretty easily. Tirloni has bitten me in the ass more than once though.
          I thought about taking Sarnavskiy without watching any tape first, but -350 is steep, even against a bum like Davis. Line moved past me.
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
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            #6
            Probably would of played Tirloni at -200 or better
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            • MD
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              #7
              Not sure if I know enough about Awad to play him here. Gonna look for some of his older fights and then decide. Can't really learn much from his Bellator run.
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              • Grabaka
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                • 02-19-11
                • 3216

                #8
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                Probably would of played Tirloni at -200 or better
                Go ahead...squeeze them and take it with me. -195 now.
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                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                  • 01-31-13
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by reigle9
                  Lines are moving fast, glad I was sitting here when they came out.

                  Sarnavskiy -395
                  Brooks -310
                  Tirloni -230

                  I really think all three should roll pretty easily. Tirloni has bitten me in the ass more than once though.
                  If Brooks has any difficulty taking Alessio down then Alessio could win a decision. Alessio has more experience & has fought better competition. I actually put a tiny bit on Alessio. I also have Tirloni & Awad. Although if Stapleton can absorb Awad's best shots & take him down then he will probably win. Not a lot of $ on this card.
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                  • reigle9
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                    #10
                    Roller and Bocek had success taking him down, I imagine Brooks will too.
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                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by reigle9
                      Roller and Bocek had success taking him down, I imagine Brooks will too.
                      Their MMA wrestling is better than the inexperienced Brooks. And Brooks can not take a punch as well as either of those 2. It is something to consider. We will find out soon enough. I am very curious to see how good Stapleton is now that he is no longer in the military and is a full time MMA fighter. Like I said if he can take Awad's best punch & can take Awad down he will probably win.
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                      • gabe
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                        • 09-12-11
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MD
                        Not sure if I know enough about Awad to play him here. Gonna look for some of his older fights and then decide. Can't really learn much from his Bellator run.
                        You just said you need to watch tape on like three different fighters. They've been fighting regularly for Bellator and you've been posting here during their fights lol surprising you've missed them

                        warren-brooks-stahl parlay for me

                        and brooks-stahl 2 teamer without warren

                        stahl is a -530 fav on the european mma 6 card, should be an easy W
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                        • MD
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by gabe
                          You just said you need to watch tape on like three different fighters. They've been fighting regularly for Bellator and you've been posting here during their fights lol surprising you've missed them

                          warren-brooks-stahl parlay for me

                          and brooks-stahl 2 teamer without warren

                          stahl is a -530 fav on the european mma 6 card, should be an easy W
                          You think I watch tape on fighters because I haven't seen them fight before?
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                          • reigle9
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                            • 10-25-07
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                            #14
                            Hey a random question...do many people use the spreadsheet on here? And if so, is it shared on your profile? I think I could get into that.
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                            • gabe
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                              • 09-12-11
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MD
                              You think I watch tape on fighters because I haven't seen them fight before?
                              You were talking about them like you have no idea what they're like. Please don't respond to this, I could care less.
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                              • MD
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by gabe
                                You were talking about them like you have no idea what they're like. Please don't respond to this, I could care less.
                                I've seen every fight Sarnavskiy has had in Bellator, but I'm not gonna bet him because of that. I don't blind bet fights very often, if at all.
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                                • gabe
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                                  • 09-12-11
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MD
                                  I've seen every fight Sarnavskiy has had in Bellator, but I'm not gonna bet him because of that. I don't blind bet fights very often, if at all.
                                  Seeing his Bellator fights is reason to bet against him, not for him.
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                                  • MD
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                                    #18
                                    Not against Marcus Davis bro.
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                                    • Beelzebubzy
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                                      • 06-06-11
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                                      #19
                                      Wiki capping Kirk now.
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                                      • MD
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                        Wiki capping Kirk now.
                                        He's garbage. Very little punching power, and just comes forward throwing leg kicks and hooks the entire fight. Perfect style matchup for Warren.
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                          • 06-06-11
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                                          #21
                                          Ok I'll parlay Kirk with gsp by decision and JDS by ko to get even better odds
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                                          • Grabaka
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                                            • 02-19-11
                                            • 3216

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                            Ok I'll parlay Kirk with gsp by decision and JDS by ko to get even better odds
                                            Alison Stokke

                                            Nothing you do is wrong boobz
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                                            • mmaed
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                                              • 11-25-11
                                              • 1327

                                              #23
                                              Anyone see value in john alessio? I did a little wikicapping and read will brooks was a high school wrestler. Alessio stuffed shane roller for a round. He did a mediocre job stuffing bocek though. I would imagine will brooks is not quite on their level yet as a grappler. Anyone have an opinion about will brooks?
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                                              • MD
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by mmaed
                                                Anyone see value in john alessio? I did a little wikicapping and read will brooks was a high school wrestler. Alessio stuffed shane roller for a round. He did a mediocre job stuffing bocek though. I would imagine will brooks is not quite on their level yet as a grappler. Anyone have an opinion about will brooks?
                                                Brooks should wreck Alessio pretty hard.
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                                                • reigle9
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                                                  • 10-25-07
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mmaed
                                                  Anyone have an opinion about will brooks?
                                                  He's "explosive".
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                                                  • MMAJOE
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                                                    • 05-08-08
                                                    • 284

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mmaed
                                                    Anyone see value in john alessio? I did a little wikicapping and read will brooks was a high school wrestler. Alessio stuffed shane roller for a round. He did a mediocre job stuffing bocek though. I would imagine will brooks is not quite on their level yet as a grappler. Anyone have an opinion about will brooks?
                                                    Allesio used to train with wrestlers at xtreme couture but he has struggle about getting tooken down in his UFC fights.He is a veteran with more experience and better stand up. I could get Allesio catching brooks in a choke he has good ground game. so if allesio doesnt sub him its brooks dec.but i dont see much value at -310 even parlay him. If allesio loses i could see him retiring just like clementi.but both could pull it out i actually like a small parlay
                                                    Clementi
                                                    Stapleton
                                                    allessio

                                                    as a dog parlay or take brooks out and put Coy in instead .Coy is a future contender in Bellator or UFC fighter.
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                                                    • Noleafclover
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                                                      • 06-06-13
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                                                      #27
                                                      Alessio seemed really frustrated against Roller. I'm prolly gonna stay away, but I'd have to take Brooks gun to my head.
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                                                      • reigle9
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                                                        #28
                                                        Seriously, tooken? And Coy is 35, he's about the furthest thing from a "contender". He can win a lot of fights with his wrestling against low-mid level guys but that's as far as it goes.
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                                                        • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MD
                                                          Brooks should wreck Alessio pretty hard.
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                                                          • MMAJOE
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                                                            • 05-08-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by reigle9
                                                            Seriously, tooken? And Coy is 35, he's about the furthest thing from a "contender". He can win a lot of fights with his wrestling against low-mid level guys but that's as far as it goes.
                                                            The bellator WW division is pretty weak thats why i can see him win and be a contender in the next WW tournament. Dont know if you saw him get robbed bye decision bye tyron woodley in strikeforce challengers?Woodley is a beast he is know low-mid level guy Yeah Coy is 35 but still a really solid fighter.maybe not a champion but good.At those lines rather bet on him in my parlay than a young guy like brooks still learning the game who got caught bye awad and is now fighting Vet in Allessio that this is win or retire for him.Contender is Bellator WW division is a lot different than me saying a Contender in UFC.
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                                                            • Noleafclover
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                                                              • 06-06-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              Am I wrong for thinking this 40 year old might have one fight left in him, and be a step up in competition for Sarnavisky?
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                                                              • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                • 01-31-13
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Noleafclover
                                                                Am I wrong for thinking this 40 year old might have one fight left in him, and be a step up in competition for Sarnavisky?
                                                                No. It could happen. I'm staying away from this one. I don't know if Sarn can take Davis down. I don't think he can sub him either. Davis is better on the feet. But Sarn has better stamina. Gun to the head Sarn by Decision.
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                                                                • reigle9
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                                                                  • 10-25-07
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Davis is a lot better on paper standing than in reality.
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                                                                  • MMAJOE
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                                                                    • 05-08-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    yeah im staying away.davis chin has not looked good the last few years took to many shots.also he cuts a decent amount of weight to make 155lb.His age chin weight cut and cardio could be retirement night for davis. Lately guys like sobral and others reitiring this tournament is there last hope (Joe riggs)John Alessio,Rich Clementi,Marcus Davis. We will see if any can pull of the win and see who calls it quits with a loss
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                                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MMAJOE
                                                                      yeah im staying away.davis chin has not looked good the last few years took to many shots.also he cuts a decent amount of weight to make 155lb.His age chin weight cut and cardio could be retirement night for davis. Lately guys like sobral and others reitiring this tournament is there last hope (Joe riggs)John Alessio,Rich Clementi,Marcus Davis. We will see if any can pull of the win and see who calls it quits with a loss
                                                                      Yes. But you forgot Rampage & Tito. And I'm really surprised both Shamrocks are not fighting each other for their final fight.
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