UFC Fight Night: Condit Vs Kampmann 2 (August 28,2013)

[Luca Fury]

Well, down just under 3 units for the night, but given how horribly the night started I actually don't feel too bad about that. What a crazy night.

Were you on Bowling too? First fight of the night and BAM! That BS result. I knew the night was screwed after that.

[Das Jax]

Were you on Bowling too? First fight of the night and BAM! That BS result. I knew the night was screwed after that.

Indeed I was.

[Grabaka]

Im up +5.86u MMA & -3.30u wnba = +2.56

[Das Jax]

Were you on Bowling too? First fight of the night and BAM! That BS result. I knew the night was screwed after that.

Man... why'd you have to remind me about that fight? I was so psyched to have capped that correctly (particularly since Bowling was the dog), I probably spent at least an hour watching footage and to then have it taken away with practically an audible *poof* sound effect... so incredibly frustrating.

[Thor4140]

I have already bet Cerrone a day or so ago Thor with an extra ITD as well. Can't even arb out now.

Unfortunately, I totally agree. No way RDA is anything close to a public play in Boston...the Cowboy's line should be moving up. I don't know what is happening. But...Cerrone tanking a fight after killing himself over the last few months in New Mexico...can't see that.

Looked like he didn't even want to be out there fighting. Now who knew what with this fight? How did the bookies know to drop that line? Did they know about an injury but it was held from us? I don't know how many times i have to show guys this but they still will never learn. I saw a few guys get reeled right (jumping in or betting more) in like Big Day and MD when they saw the line drop (sorry Big Day and MD) It is bookmaking 101 and the more ******* this out the more people will live in denial. Nobody was betting RDA especially when the line dropped. I ask again if this is all legit why drop the line when people are taking Cerrone. The only way u would drop the line is if u have a great idea that u are gonna win and cheat out others for that big profit. KInda like how they do it in the market. Hype up a stock than bail out and the suckers are stuck holding the garbage.

[Luca Fury]

Man... why'd you have to remind me about that fight? I was so psyched to have capped that correctly (particularly since Bowling was the dog), I probably spent at least an hour watching footage and to then have it taken away with practically an audible *poof* sound effect... so incredibly frustrating.

Yep… I was sitting there thinking "Sweet, always nice to start out the night with an underdog win…" Then it's an NC somehow.

The ref was going to take a point for it because he said it was intentional. Then when Bowling can't continue, he changes his mind? WTF? Should have been a DQ. Bowling was 3 seconds away from being up 20-18 to boot. 20-17 including the point deduction.

[Das Jax]

Looked like he didn't even want to be out there fighting. Now who knew what with this fight? How did the bookies know to drop that line? Did they know about an injury but it was held from us? I don't know how many times i have to show guys this but they still will never learn. I saw a few guys get reeled right (jumping in or betting more) in like Big Day and MD when they saw the line drop (sorry Big Day and MD) It is bookmaking 101 and the more ******* this out the more people will live in denial. Nobody was betting RDA especially when the line dropped. I ask again if this is all legit why drop the line when people are taking Cerrone. The only way u would drop the line is if u have a great idea that u are gonna win and cheat out others for that big profit. KInda like how they do it in the market. Hype up a stock than bail out and the suckers are stuck holding the garbage.

Dude... you've got to chill out with the conspiracy stuff. If someone's going to magically orchestrate some sort of inconceivable scam (which is exactly what you're suggesting), they're not going to do it on a fight that offers virtually coinflip odds. You come out with this stuff every... single... fight... and it's just not believable.

[Das Jax]

The ref was going to take a point for it because he said it was intentional. Then when Bowling can't continue, he changes his mind? WTF? Should have been a DQ. Bowling was 3 seconds away from being up 20-18 to boot. 20-17 including the point deduction.

Additionally, the ref clearly stated it was an intentional foul when he deducted the point and then, when Bowling was ruled ineligible to continue, he called it an UNintentional foul. I don't really care that much, but that's some bulllllsheet.

Preaching to the choir, buddy... preaching to the choir.

[rocky16]

Im up +5.86u MMA & -3.30u wnba = +2.56

Up +4 units on UFC. Thank you NBK.

[Grabaka]

Up +4 units on UFC. Thank you NBK.

Well done Rocko!

[rocky16]

Well done Rocko!

Thanks broseph. One of the few who was on RDA too. Cerrone is a focking head case.

[MD]

Thanks broseph. One of the few who was on RDA too. Cerrone is a focking head case.

Nicely done, man. You may even have been right about Abedi. Hard to tell with Dylan's injury and all, but there's a decent chance that you were on the right side.

You're a stud.

[rocky16]

Nicely done, man. You may even have been right about Abedi. Hard to tell with Dylan's injury and all, but there's a decent chance that you were on the right side.

You're a stud.

Bro, I literally broke shit in the house when Abedi decided to give up like a focking phaget. Oh well, lets hit some focking winners this Saturday.

[Grabaka]

Thanks broseph. One of the few who was on RDA too. Cerrone is a focking head case.

RDA is my hero I went even bigger live betting him woooooo without him there would not be hookers tonite

[mirinquads]

Can afford blow tonight cus of RDA and Elkins, damn.. Still wish I bet High as was my instinct.

[Luca Fury]

Looked like he didn't even want to be out there fighting. Now who knew what with this fight? How did the bookies know to drop that line? Did they know about an injury but it was held from us? I don't know how many times i have to show guys this but they still will never learn. I saw a few guys get reeled right (jumping in or betting more) in like Big Day and MD when they saw the line drop (sorry Big Day and MD) It is bookmaking 101 and the more ******* this out the more people will live in denial. Nobody was betting RDA especially when the line dropped. I ask again if this is all legit why drop the line when people are taking Cerrone. The only way u would drop the line is if u have a great idea that u are gonna win and cheat out others for that big profit. KInda like how they do it in the market. Hype up a stock than bail out and the suckers are stuck holding the garbage.

Limits go up on fight day and then majority of the action comes in. Big bets and/or a high volume of bets move lines, especially if they come from the gamblers who the books know win.

It's not some conspiracy. Every single line that I today bet got much worse between the time I placed it and the time the fight took place. Some by 100+ cents, yet they went 2-3-1. Line movement isn't caused by some shady inside info.

Tavare from -450 to -560
Condit from -240 to -290
Whitaker -130 went to -185
Hioki from -130 to -170
Head from +100 to -135
Bowling +120 to +110

Some pretty big moves there, yet thse went 2-3-1. Line moves aaren't due to some top secret inside info that makes books "know" they will win.

RDA is my hero I went even bigger live betting him woooooo without him there would not be hookers tonite

LOL, nice

[MD]

Limits go up on fight day and then majority of the action comes in. Big bets and/or a high volume of bets move lines, especially if they come from the gamblers who the books know win.

It's not some conspiracy. Every single line that I today bet got much worse between the time I placed it and the time the fight took place. Some by 100+ cents, yet they went 2-3-1. Line movement isn't caused by some shady inside info.

Tavare from -450 to -560
Condit from -240 to -290
Whitaker -130 went to -185
Hioki from -130 to -170
Head from +100 to -135
Bowling +120 to +110

Some pretty big moves there, yet thse went 2-3-1. Line moves aaren't due to some top secret inside info that makes books "know" they will win.




LOL, nice

By the way, Dana thought Trujillo should have gotten the KO.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/8/29/4670742/ufc-fight-night-27-results-dana-white-paying-trujillo-win-bonus-vs-bowling-no-contest-illegal-knee

[GunShard]

By the way, Dana thought Trujillo should have gotten the KO.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/8/29...t-illegal-knee

Someone posted this animation from that link. Dana White is clearly delusional.

[Vaughany]

Can afford blow tonight cus of RDA and Elkins, damn.. Still wish I bet High as was my instinct.

Same brah, was al over High early in week, we said in pms as well tht we'd take him and i never did in end

[MD]

Someone posted this animation from that link. Dana White is clearly delusional.

I saw that. Second knee was pretty arguable though. The thigh definitely hit the face, so if that's considered an illegal strike, then the strike was illegal, but I think the knee grazed past Bowling's face rather than actually hit it. Wouldn't blame anyone for thinking it was illegal though.

[Vaughany]

NO ONE IS GIVING KAMPMANN A CHANCE

the entire board is Condit and every single MMA website is on Condit as well

and rightfull so when you think about it, but you know how that shit usually turns out, I'm throwing a unit on Hitman.

public all over Condit and line hasn't budged

sharp

[Vaughany]

Looked like he didn't even want to be out there fighting. Now who knew what with this fight? How did the bookies know to drop that line? Did they know about an injury but it was held from us? I don't know how many times i have to show guys this but they still will never learn. I saw a few guys get reeled right (jumping in or betting more) in like Big Day and MD when they saw the line drop (sorry Big Day and MD) It is bookmaking 101 and the more ******* this out the more people will live in denial. Nobody was betting RDA especially when the line dropped. I ask again if this is all legit why drop the line when people are taking Cerrone. The only way u would drop the line is if u have a great idea that u are gonna win and cheat out others for that big profit. KInda like how they do it in the market. Hype up a stock than bail out and the suckers are stuck holding the garbage.

lol bro! The brand new show coming soon to Bumfucks TV... "Thor Questions Everything"...

all the signs were there that Cerrone wasnt mentally right going in to this fight, you even linked one of the articles yourself. He hadnt thought a half decent wrestler since Varner...all the signs were there that this could be an upset, I dont understand where the controversy lies?

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Cerrone and Perez

[The iron sheik]

First of all... I didn't bet the main, besides laying it all on the line: risking a massive 30 points, winning a whopping 39 SBR points


I don't think Cerrone losing was that big of an upset and I certainly don't want to uh, "align" myself with the poster that thinks decision fights are fixed according to the wish of the bookies, but yeah to me it certainly did look like Cerrone didn't even want to fight. Whatever the reason may be. Might be his lack of fight IQ or his reaction when stuff doesn't go his way from the get-go.

I don't know, perhaps Cerrone is just the kind of fighter that reacts extremely poor to opponents that seek to pressure him. To me, it kind of looked like that. Whatever the case is, I thought that was more about Cerrone losing than RDA winning. Taking nothing away from RDA though, the man is a beast.

[Sato]

Perez and Melancon. Gotta learn your lessons the hard way ;(

Perez has to be in the top 5 of lowest fight IQ fighters.

[Thor4140]

Limits go up on fight day and then majority of the action comes in. Big bets and/or a high volume of bets move lines, especially if they come from the gamblers who the books know win.

It's not some conspiracy. Every single line that I today bet got much worse between the time I placed it and the time the fight took place. Some by 100+ cents, yet they went 2-3-1. Line movement isn't caused by some shady inside info.

Tavare from -450 to -560
Condit from -240 to -290
Whitaker -130 went to -185
Hioki from -130 to -170
Head from +100 to -135
Bowling +120 to +110

Some pretty big moves there, yet thse went 2-3-1. Line moves aaren't due to some top secret inside info that makes books "know" they will win.




LOL, nice

And u sell picks? Good lord. Alll those lines u listed were not a sucker moves to pull in more money on a particular fight. It is funny. I say this before the fight but u fools still don't understand. You sell picks but don't see a books agenda? To me that shows what a terrible lack of knowledge u have and i wouldn't take picks off you if u paid me.

[Thor4140]

First of all... I didn't bet the main, besides laying it all on the line: risking a massive 30 points, winning a whopping 39 SBR points


I don't think Cerrone losing was that big of an upset and I certainly don't want to uh, "align" myself with the poster that thinks decision fights are fixed according to the wish of the bookies, but yeah to me it certainly did look like Cerrone didn't even want to fight. Whatever the reason may be. Might be his lack of fight IQ or his reaction when stuff doesn't go his way from the get-go.

I don't know, perhaps Cerrone is just the kind of fighter that reacts extremely poor to opponents that seek to pressure him. To me, it kind of looked like that. Whatever the case is, I thought that was more about Cerrone losing than RDA winning. Taking nothing away from RDA though, the man is a beast.

it didnt seem strange to you that before the fight i said loud and clear something shady was going on and then he fights like that? Like somehow he had an injury that the books knew about but we were not told? A great way for them to drop that line to reel in even more money?

[Vaughany]

And u sell picks? Good lord. Alll those lines u listed were not a sucker moves to pull in more money on a particular fight. It is funny. I say this before the fight but u fools still don't understand. You sell picks but don't see a books agenda? To me that shows what a terrible lack of knowledge u have and i wouldn't take picks off you if u paid me.

He's in bed (literally I hear ) with Kalikas tho!

[Thor4140]

lol bro! The brand new show coming soon to Bumfucks TV... "Thor Questions Everything"...

all the signs were there that Cerrone wasnt mentally right going in to this fight, you even linked one of the articles yourself. He hadnt thought a half decent wrestler since Varner...all the signs were there that this could be an upset, I dont understand where the controversy lies?

Cmon V are u saying all the signs were there and everyone was jumping off ofthere Cerrone play and switching sides and this is what brought the line down Here is how weak this argument is. Here are your picks last night. Why were you on Cerronayyy? You had all the signs. You didn't jump because u felt u had a slam dunk also.

My picks (not bets necessarily):

Alloway
High
Andrews
Thatch
Hioki
Mizugaki
Melancon
Tavares
McGee
Cerronayyyy
NBK

[Vaughany]

And u sell picks? Good lord. Alll those lines u listed were not a sucker moves to pull in more money on a particular fight. It is funny. I say this before the fight but u fools still don't understand. You sell picks but don't see a books agenda? To me that shows what a terrible lack of knowledge u have and i wouldn't take picks off you if u paid me.

duplicate

[Vaughany]

Cmon V are u saying all the signs were there and everyone was jumping off ofthere Cerrone play and switching sides and this is what brought the line down Here is how weak this argument is. Here are your picks last night. Why were you on Cerronayyy? You had all the signs. You didn't jump because u felt u had a slam dunk also.

My picks (not bets necessarily):

Alloway
High
Andrews
Thatch
Hioki
Mizugaki
Melancon
Tavares
McGee
Cerronayyyy
NBK

I wasnt on Cerronayyy, I bet on him ages ago and as Mirsquids can confirm (we discussed it in PM), I arbed out at beginning of week for a risk free play on Dos Anjos after hearing about his legal issues and other off-putting stuff like him not spending hardly any time at Jacksons. As put in brackets (not bets necesarily), my bets were posted separately, these were just who I thought would win if I had to choose. I still thought Cerrone could win but wasnt confident enough to think that I'd capped it right what with all the aforementioned variables involved that are hard to estimate. Plus I probably just said Ceronayyy cos I like the sound of Jackson saying "Cerronayyyy" and because Im a WEC fanboiiii!

[wagerjunkie]

If you go back to my post during the fight you'll see what I was saying Thor.

Cerrone just did enough and made just enough "attempts" to make it look like he cared just a little bit about that fight to "sell it" and i still don't even think he did a good job of that. something was clearly up. early throwing the fight or injured.

you could tell by his face and eyes he just was NOT there mentally at all and did not want to be in that ring. his body may have been there physically but mentally Donald Cerrones mind was not in that cage last night.

[Vaughany]

oh I also reckon that his grandma might be ill and is distracted by that.... (heard it here first folks!)

[Educ8d Degener8]

RDA... Perpetually underrated.

Side question - Thor, was 911 an inside job?

[Rubber Guard]

All this Bowling talk. Summer ain't over yet folks!