UFC 155: Dos Santos vs Velasquez (Dec 29)

**Sacrelicious** · 12-30-12, 01:20 AM

Did you see the look in JDS's eyes as he was walking to the ring? The guy was tense as hell, something was wrong.

Dunno if it was fear, or perhaps an injury, but the guy looked like he was walking to the penetrating electric chair.

**keyboarding** · 12-30-12, 01:22 AM

JDS beats Cain by a punch to the head. Only natural in the rematch he focus all his attention on body shots.

What a fukking joke of a fight for all parties involved.

**JamesKim** · 12-30-12, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by keyboarding

JDS beats Cain by a punch to the head. Only natural in the rematch he focus all his attention body shots.

What a fukking joke of a fight for all parties involved.

Are you kidding? This was an amazing performance by Cain. So what he didn't get the finish? This was an absolute beast mode mauling.

**Grabaka** · 12-30-12, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

did that pouto grabaka hit cain by decision at +900?

this is brujeria

lol this made my day

**JuicedUp** · 12-30-12, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by JamesKim

Are you kidding? This was an amazing performance by Cain. So what he didn't get the finish? This was an absolute beast mode mauling.

**zoo youk** · 12-30-12, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by El Nino

Still trying to figure out why Cain didn't finish or attempt to after the 2nd round. Played it ridiculously safe against a guy who couldn't even put his hands up and could only throw weird elbows and uppercuts from his hips. Cain didn't even try to properly take his back when it was obvious that JDS was on fumes. Very strange...why not try win the title on an exclamation point? Would have been nice to see this so called BJJ that JDS has...

still fumbling over this as well. posted about it many times. you would for a guy who prides on having his title and got knocked out cold to have it taken away, he would have finished this fight. the one perfect opportunity, i believe it was the third round he hit JDS with a HARD right that backed JR up against the cage he was clearly hurt bad, hands were down face left wide open, Cain tagged maybe 2 or 3 more times, than CAIN went into the clinch. I didn't understand that at all. for as badly as he was knocked out, you think he'd want to dish out the same, but JR showed a hell of a chin and I just don't don't think Cain had enough in his arms to put together enough flurry of punches.

**keyboarding** · 12-30-12, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by JamesKim

Are you kidding? This was an amazing performance by Cain. So what he didn't get the finish? This was an absolute beast mode mauling.

He was "mauling" a guy who was never, ever in the fight. JDS didn't even have his fukking hands up at any point, despite being told to do so every single round by his corner. Cain was literally fighting a retard and still couldn't finish him.

**zoo youk** · 12-30-12, 01:28 AM

btw where is the guy with the tag line under his avatar that says "cain will bury the forum"

**nlin** · 12-30-12, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by zoo youk

btw where is the guy with the tag line under his avatar that says "cain will bury the forum"

lol MD...........sheeet

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Boooooo

haha he did, doesnt matter how many burrittos u eat tho when you're a natural savage like him tho!

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by El Nino

Still trying to figure out why Cain didn't finish or attempt to after the 2nd round. Played it ridiculously safe against a guy who couldn't even put his hands up and could only throw weird elbows and uppercuts from his hips. Cain didn't even try to properly take his back when it was obvious that JDS was on fumes. Very strange...why not try win the title on an exclamation point? Would have been nice to see this so called BJJ that JDS has...

it's the AKA way...Jackson and Zahabi get a lot of heat for their gameplanning and playing it safe but AKA aren't too different. Cormier cruised against Barnett (though he did break his hand), Koscheck likes to cruise, obviously Fitch.

**JuicedUp** · 12-30-12, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by keyboarding

He was "mauling" a guy who was never, ever in the fight. JDS didn't even have his fukking hands up at any point, despite being told to do so every single round by his corner. Cain was literally fighting a retard and still couldn't finish him.

how much did you lose?

**Sacrelicious** · 12-30-12, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by keyboarding

He was "mauling" a guy who was never, ever in the fight. JDS didn't even have his fukking hands up at any point, despite being told to do so every single round by his corner. Cain was literally fighting a retard and still couldn't finish him.

This is what I cant understand.

What the HELL was JDS doing out there?

You could see it in his eyes walking to the ring, something was wrong.

**PunisherIND** · 12-30-12, 01:34 AM

CARDIO. FOR. DAYS.

good night everyone.

**Poppa Catfish** · 12-30-12, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

haha he did, doesnt matter how many burrittos u eat tho when you're a natural savage like him tho!

Got to love them fatties

**El Nino** · 12-30-12, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by keyboarding

He was "mauling" a guy who was never, ever in the fight. JDS didn't even have his fukking hands up at any point, despite being told to do so every single round by his corner. Cain was literally fighting a retard and still couldn't finish him.

This. Cain fought a punching bag for 22.5 minutes and couldn't and didn't want to finish him. The fight was wrapped up and he didn't even have to put himself in danger to attempt to finish the fight. His overhand right landed hard both times he threw it. Didn't try to work a RNC or GNP all that hard when he did have him down. When Cain landed a few shots, he was the one who closed the distance and initiated the clinch or take down attempts. Fought rounds 3-5 timid.

You want your belt back? You want to show everyone you're the baddest man? You leave that fukk unconscious in the ring, make him quit, break his will. Make sure he wants nothing to do with you in the rubber match. Now, JDS can at least tell himself that he took everything Cain had and Cain couldn't finish him. JDS still has something positive to take away from this beating.

**Poppa Catfish** · 12-30-12, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

it's the AKA way...Jackson and Zahabi get a lot of heat for their gameplanning and playing it safe but AKA aren't too different. Cormier cruised against Barnett (though he did break his hand), Koscheck likes to cruise, obviously Fitch.

Booooooo. Josh no longer with the team, and he hardly ever practiced with the staff in the first place. That kind of was his issue. Fitch is the least athletic guy ever, its amazing he can win at anything, just shows how much desire/heart plays into it

**JuicedUp** · 12-30-12, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by El Nino

JDS still has something positive to take away from this beating.

la nina u dumb

**El Nino** · 12-30-12, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

it's the AKA way...Jackson and Zahabi get a lot of heat for their gameplanning and playing it safe but AKA aren't too different. Cormier cruised against Barnett (though he did break his hand), Koscheck likes to cruise, obviously Fitch.

Just shitty to see it from a fan perspective. Was like GSP vs. Kos. Kos couldn't even see or defend any of the shots coming from the side where his eye was swollen completely shut and GSP played it safe and jabbed away the championship rounds.

Just nice to see a fighter put an exclamation on it when he can.

Viva la raza. Si se puede. Brown Pride. Carne Asada. Pinata.

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Booooooo. Josh no longer with the team, and he hardly ever practiced with the staff in the first place. That kind of was his issue. Fitch is the least athletic guy ever, its amazing he can win at anything, just shows how much desire/heart plays into it

yeah but still has Cook and Camarillo around him doesnt he? Still the AKA mentality...all about winning over being entertaining. Which is perfectly fine in my book!

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

CARDIO. FOR. DAYS.

good night everyone.

lol

**keyboarding** · 12-30-12, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by JuicedUp

how much did you lose?

Not a penny. I lost my respect for the heavyweight division if anything. These two are supposed to be top tier and spent 5 round bumping into each other with Cain pushing Santos over just to let him stand back up. Fukking horrible fight to watch.

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

This is what I cant understand.

What the HELL was JDS doing out there?

You could see it in his eyes walking to the ring, something was wrong.

It's true. From start to finish it didn't look like he had any intention of winning that fight. He was backtracking, leaving his hands down, eating punches, and losing every single exchange... for the 4 minutes he was actually conscious. The rest was a comatose state.

Originally posted by El Nino

Cain fought a punching bag for 22.5 minutes and couldn't and didn't want to finish him.

The only thing worse than Santos' approach and defense was the fact Cain made me watch 5 rounds of that garbage because he refused to hit a defenseless opponent.

**Poppa Catfish** · 12-30-12, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

yeah but still has Cook and Camarillo around him doesnt he? Still the AKA mentality...all about winning over being entertaining. Which is perfectly fine in my book!

Camarillo broke up with AKA. Surely you know this

**El Nino** · 12-30-12, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by JuicedUp

la nina u dumb

It's the truth. I guarantee you JDS's coaches take that away and use that to build him back up. Basic sports psychology. Take any sliver of a positive and use it to build back your guy's confidence.

I almost forgot, never fukkin' heard of ya, pal!

**JuicedUp** · 12-30-12, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by El Nino

I almost forgot, never fukkin' heard of ya, pal!

what a loser

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Camarillo broke up with AKA anymore. Surely you know this

Yeah but he went to work with Kos at Fresno? I mean just because they aren't officially part of AKA, it's still in their DNA. Im sure they still have the same outlook on things as they did at AKA and isnt it Cook who runs the show anyway?

(Oh I was talkin about Kos when I said "he still has Cook and Camarillo around him..")

**Poppa Catfish** · 12-30-12, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah but he went to work with Kos at Fresno? I mean just because they aren't officially part of AKA, it's still in their DNA. Im sure they still have the same outlook on things as they did at AKA and isnt it Cook who runs the show anyway?

(Oh I was talkin about Kos when I said "he still has Cook and Camarillo around him..")

Competiting directly against AKA in San Jose. Very ugly break up. Anyways I disagree with you. I think they get the most out of their fighters. I dont know how you can see a fighter like Fitch and expect him to finish. All his tools are defensive.

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Poppa Catfish

Competiting directly against AKA in San Jose. Very ugly break up. Anyways I disagree with you. I think they get the most out of their fighters. I dont know how you can see a fighter like Fitch and expect him to finish. All his tools are defensive.

yeah you are right about Fitch...I guess you have to take in to account the kind of fighter and their style. But you have to admit that AKA and Fresno (regardless of whether they are competing with each other or not) are mostly made up of wrestlers and obviously wrestlers tend to go to decision more often, or at least get vilified more when their fights do go the distance. Only have to watch that reality show on AKA and Kos to see that their number one focus is getting in solid wrestlers then mold them in to MMA fighters

**Poppa Catfish** · 12-30-12, 02:10 AM

Right you are. I think camps get way too much credit. Often times these guys are working on their own for the better part of the day. Ultimately you are limited by the person's skillset. 209ville isnt going to turn Jake Shields into a dominating finisher even if that seems to be more their percieved focus than AKA Truly no camp is going to be able to do that

**keramas** · 12-30-12, 06:06 AM

Dos Santos lost

**SportsPedagogy** · 12-30-12, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

guy knocks out bums like struve

cant even ko bums like roy nelson

lands a lucky shot against cain in the first fight they hail him as god

You mean that Roy Nelson who as only been Ko'd once ?

We are talking about the same JDS whose only two wins by decision were against Nelson and Carwin right ? And both of those fights were one sided beat downs ...

**Mercersux** · 12-30-12, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by zoo youk

still fumbling over this as well. posted about it many times. you would for a guy who prides on having his title and got knocked out cold to have it taken away, he would have finished this fight. the one perfect opportunity, i believe it was the third round he hit JDS with a HARD right that backed JR up against the cage he was clearly hurt bad, hands were down face left wide open, Cain tagged maybe 2 or 3 more times, than CAIN went into the clinch. I didn't understand that at all. for as badly as he was knocked out, you think he'd want to dish out the same, but JR showed a hell of a chin and I just don't don't think Cain had enough in his arms to put together enough flurry of punches.

You have to think after the 3rd round even Cain was started to wear a bit. Guy kept a torrid pace for 5 rnd's. Even the most conditioned athletes at that pace are going to slow a bit. Cain knew he had JDS broken so maybe tried to be on the safe side. I'm pretty sure that the thorough smashing Cain gave JDS sufficed for the first fight. Besides, Cain knows there will be a third fight between them so I'd tend to think a humiliating drawn out lose hurts the psyche more than some first or second round k.o. Cain made JDS look feeble and that will last for awhile.

**zoo youk** · 12-30-12, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Mercersux

You have to think after the 3rd round even Cain was started to wear a bit. Guy kept a torrid pace for 5 rnd's. Even the most conditioned athletes at that pace are going to slow a bit. Cain knew he had JDS broken so maybe tried to be on the safe side. I'm pretty sure that the thorough smashing Cain gave JDS sufficed for the first fight. Besides, Cain knows there will be a third fight between them so I'd tend to think a humiliating drawn out lose hurts the psyche more than some first or second round k.o. Cain made JDS look feeble and that will last for awhile.

now that I slept on you might be right. full out dominance over your opponent for a full 25 minutes just complete onslaught, there is NOTHING positive JDS can take out of that. he's going to take a look at himself in the mirror for the next 3 weeks and see what he looks like, feel the pain, and that is when it really sinks in and the funk really happens. I doubt his trainers even let him watch the tape. they can't, the guy wouldn't even want to step back in the ring again ever with Cain. the more I think about it, it would have been nice if say Cain finished him off with a 3-4 punch TKO in say the last 30 seconds in the 5th to put him to sleep with a major exclamation mark but this was just fine, he broke his will, spirit and heart and every way possibly and basically just said, hey pal, you can't fuk with me on ANY level and you WILL remember it.

**zoo youk** · 12-30-12, 11:48 AM

and at the pace he was going, to be honest, he had so much blood going through his arms, take a look at the shots JDS was eating without going down, it was truly amazing, I don't think Cain wanted to risk going balls to the wall and gas out putting a flurry together with him arms so heavy and tired, in case he wasnt able to finish him, and than risk not being able to dominate and break JDS down every single round, every single minute like he wanted to and did.

**Vaughany** · 12-30-12, 12:16 PM