Bitcoin Price Tracking & Discussion -- 2025

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-01-21, 09:40 AM

I have a theory on the line of demarcation for:
*Those who understand crypto VS those who don't understand crypto.

I think hard line is +/- 55 years old.

PSchiff is 58 yrs old, so he's just over the line. Maher is 65. Prof Hanke has to be about 70.

Goes on and on. The longer you've seen Fiat, the more u get used to it. I mentioned the list of Bitcoin videos that are most educational.

Pampliano, Breedlove, Ammous etc. All well under age 55. Only pro-BtC name over 55 might be Max Keiser.

Maher is mocking Bitcoin. But the USD is the real ponzi.

**DwightShrute** · 05-01-21, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

I have a theory on the line of demarcation for:
*Those who understand crypto VS those who don't understand crypto.

I think hard line is +/- 55 years old.

PSchiff is 58 yrs old, so he's just over the line. Maher is 65. Prof Hanke has to be about 70.

Goes on and on. The longer you've seen Fiat, the more u get used to it. I mentioned the list of Bitcoin videos that are most educational.

Pampliano, Breedlove, Ammous etc. All well under age 55. Only pro-BtC name over 55 might be Max Keiser.

Maher is mocking Bitcoin. But the USD is the real ponzi.

Ya man, Maher really doesn't have a clue most of the time. I would say 10% of what he says it accurate (excluding the jokes of course).

Unless you are a top tier client at a bank, transferring $ is slow and expensive for the average Joe Blow. Bitcoin filled a hole.

I used to be a bookie. I would get wire transfers for $500, 5K, 50K from a bank and it took 2 to 5 days sometimes. The online e-checks and checking payment solutions, like Fire Pay and others, were riddled with fraud, low limits and the US told them to f off after 2006.

It will be interesting to see where Bitcoin will be in the future. Will the powerful governments put so many restrictions that it will cease to exist? Or will its popularity be too much for them to stop it?

**Optional** · 05-01-21, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

Will the powerful governments put so many restrictions that it will cease to exist? Or will its popularity be too much for them to stop it?

They can't stop it, nor the way the technology is going to nibble away at their power.

Biden says he is going to introduce capital gains tax changes to hit crypto... and within a week crypto community repsonds with proposed DeFi applications to allow bitcoin to be changed into a pegged coin and US$ borrowed against it, to circumvent the old school idea that elites of the finance industry can make unfair rules to control things.

There is no stopping this now, And it will change the world more, and in more ways, than the internet did.

**MrSink** · 05-01-21, 10:47 AM

well said chucky . great points Optional , fully agree with that .

Defi will explode with low ethereum fees . right now all those BSC defi profects , even most basic ideas having huge valueatons

**DwightShrute** · 05-01-21, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Optional

They can't stop it, nor the way the technology is going to nibble away at their power.

Biden says he is going to introduce capital gains tax changes to hit crypto... and within a week crypto community repsonds with proposed DeFi applications to allow bitcoin to be changed into a pegged coin and US$ borrowed against it, to circumvent the old school idea that elites of the finance industry can make unfair rules to control things.

There is no stopping this now, And it will change the world more, and in more ways, than the internet did.

ya I agree with you but that doesn't mean they won't try. Maybe its mostly for show? You know, to discourage more people from getting into it? Is it impossible that the all cryptos go bye bye? Probably not. But impossible?

I think that departments like the CIA might be one of Bitcoin's biggest users.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-01-21, 11:05 AM

Thanks again to the ETH advocates. What a power-house.

BTC/ETH ratio is now under 20:1. It's like ETH moves up from the previous ATH almost every day.

**DwightShrute** · 05-01-21, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Thanks again to the ETH advocates. What a power-house.

BTC/ETH ratio is now under 20:1. It's like ETH moves up from the previous ATH almost every day.

Bitcoin was 10:1 with Bitcoin Cash for the longest time I remember.

**pimike** · 05-01-21, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

So Dems and Hollywood think Bitcoin is a joke.

**Optional** · 05-01-21, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by pimike

So Dems and Hollywood think Bitcoin is a joke.

I think it's more just that old school types find it tough to "get" still.

But also, anyone that benefits from the current power/money systems probably just does not like the idea of the change as well.

**pimike** · 05-01-21, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I think it's more just that old school types find it tough to "get" still.

But also, anyone that benefits from the current power/money systems probably just does not like the idea of the change as well.

Shocked he came out so strong here. Basically calling us fools.

Ok thanks for your input.

Agree with what you said. Some older people don’t like change or something different.

**povis** · 05-01-21, 11:32 AM

If bitcoin goes to a million which is possible they will tell you how stupid and lucky you are.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-01-21, 11:32 AM

PI, who is the girl in the Rose photo?

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-01-21, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by povis

If bitcoin goes to a million which is possible they will tell you how stupid and lucky you are.

Schiff has been charging 2% Mgmt Fee per year for 12 years. Tells his clients:

*"Don't buy Bitcoin. Buy Gold, the move is coming any day now."

**pavyracer** · 05-01-21, 11:35 AM

Bitcoin will hit $100,000 by the end of this year. The sky is the limit.

**pimike** · 05-01-21, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

PI, who is the girl in the Rose photo?

Kiana Kim

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**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 05-01-21, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by povis

If bitcoin goes to a million which is possible they will tell you how stupid and lucky you are.

Do you realize how much inflation would be. If bitcoin hit a million there would be too much money avail prices would quadruple.

**povis** · 05-01-21, 11:45 AM

Not saying is likely but money printing is real in the World especially in US.

**StackinGreen** · 05-01-21, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I think it's more just that old school types find it tough to "get" still.

But also, anyone that benefits from the current power/money systems probably just does not like the idea of the change as well.

Opti is hot on posts right now, these sentiments are correct across the board.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 05-01-21, 01:45 PM

Peter Schiff isn't dumb. Peter Schiff owns banks and makes living selling gold. Why would he shill cryptos?

I'm sure the guy has been stacking cryptos for many years now in secret

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-01-21, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Peter Schiff isn't dumb. Peter Schiff owns banks and makes living selling gold. Why would he shill cryptos?

I'm sure the guy has been stacking cryptos for many years now in secret

Who?

I'm sure you're right. Just that his show has become a comedy, a broken record. How many times can he bash Bitcoin and beg for Gold sales?

So, he's a Financial Advisor. 2% annual fees, returns that are flat as a pancake, blowing opportunity cost that won't come around again. That should sum up the financial advisor segment.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 05-01-21, 02:05 PM

It's getting to a point his relevance is due to his bashing of cryptos. In his mind, bad press is still good press

**MrSink** · 05-01-21, 02:24 PM

I am quite positive he is not in possession of any cryptos

**Arky** · 05-01-21, 03:41 PM

Maher making a point with a Bill Gates quote? lol, there's some credibility for ya.....

He's right, though. He doesn't get it.

As someone mentioned above, some don't like seeing this exodus into crypto....

**bigtymer56** · 05-01-21, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Arky

Maher making a point with a Bill Gates quote? lol, there's some credibility for ya.....

He's right, though. He doesn't get it.

As someone mentioned above, some don't like seeing this exodus into crypto....

The "old man yelling at the clouds" gif pretty much sums up Bill at this point in his career.

He pretty much hates everything associated with millenials and gen-z, so its no surprise he despises crypto too.

**RocketMan$$$** · 05-02-21, 01:41 PM

what is a good wallet for Litecoin?

**shadymcgrady** · 05-02-21, 02:27 PM

Question for the defi crowd, being late to the pancake party now worth it or has that ship sailed?

**mngambler** · 05-02-21, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Question for the defi crowd, being late to the pancake party now worth it or has that ship sailed?

should hit $50+ easy if the market maintains this upward trend, My cake rewards pay me more per day than a run of the mill family Doctor makes per year, lol it's so sick

**mngambler** · 05-02-21, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by RocketMan$$$

what is a good wallet for Litecoin?

TrustWallet is super easy and has been around forever, you can get it in the Apple or Google store(s) for your phone

**BeatTheJerk** · 05-02-21, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by mngambler

should hit $50+ easy if the market maintains this upward trend, My cake rewards pay me more per day than a run of the mill family Doctor makes per year, lol it's so sick

Damn that some serious money you’re talking about so jokingly.

**coanwe** · 05-02-21, 04:28 PM

Coinbase ETH 2 staking. Can anyone explain? I’m “off the waitlist”. Should I do it? Pros vs Cons?

**mngambler** · 05-02-21, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by BeatTheJerk

Damn that some serious money you’re talking about so jokingly.

Jerky, I gotta hire a fkin accountant pal to sort all this cash out so the gov't doesn't fk me too hard

**BeatTheJerk** · 05-02-21, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by mngambler

Jerky, I gotta hire a fkin accountant pal to sort all this cash out so the gov't doesn't fk me too hard

Very nice well done pal.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-02-21, 08:44 PM

Props to the ETH holders. Creases $3000, another ATH.

**BeatTheJerk** · 05-02-21, 08:54 PM

FML so I’m gonna have sell a healthy portion of my Btc for multiple tests & MRI for my MS scan & for the spinal surgery for my DDD. My insurance is not covering majority of these two prosedures. Looks like I’ll be out of the game for now fellas. I won’t need to check in anymore. The rest of my crypto will probably go to living expenses & sports betting fund. Beatthejerk signing off keep making that money fellas.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 05-02-21, 08:57 PM

Jerk, at least u built up some profits from your investing. Save it for a rainy day, today it's raining. So, good use of your assets.

Best wishes, pal.