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  • littlekona
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    • 11-19-15
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    #1
    BTC Pros why is this trans taking so long to confirm take look????
    Sent at aprox 230 yesterday still not confirmed


    anything look wrong??
  • nyyanks773
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-26-10
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    #2
    Just wondering what book? Most likely a low miner fee but I'm not an expert
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    • littlekona
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      #3
      Nitrogen which is strange as they normally do instant credit for wagering and then after 1 confirmation withdrawals or poker...so there is something weird w. this trans
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      • Optional
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        #4
        Size looks normal and fees look right.

        You should try a rebroadcast I think


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        (dont be put off by all the writing on that page... it's just 2 steps.)
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        • littlekona
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          #5
          Originally posted by Optional
          Size looks normal and fees look right.

          You should try a rebroadcast I think


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          (dont be put off by all the writing on that page... it's just 2 steps.)
          I just did and followed instructions...It says transaction already exists....
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          • Optional
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            #6
            Originally posted by littlekona

            I just did and followed instructions...It says transaction already exists....
            That means it must have at least 1 confirmation.

            Not sure what it could be then. All looks fine to me.
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            • Optional
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              #7
              Could the coins you sent not have been fully confirmed before you passed them on maybe?
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              • littlekona
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                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                Could the coins you sent not have been fully confirmed before you passed them on maybe?
                No they where confirmed...I did send this one though about 10 minutes after initial posted one 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE take a look as its bytes are higher could this be reason But it was sent after
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                • Optional
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by littlekona

                  No they where confirmed...I did send this one though about 10 minutes after initial posted one 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE take a look as its bytes are higher could this be reason But it was sent after
                  That 'appears' to be right too. bytes about 33% more and tx fee about 33% higher than the other one.


                  Hopefully someone with more tech knowledge than me will see thread and be able to tell us more.

                  Maybe try an email to blockchain.info support?
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                  • littlekona
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                    #10
                    Yea I emailed got standard response they have no control over blockchain miners...strange there has to be something to this why it's not yet confirmrd
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                    • raiders72001
                      Senior Member
                      • 08-10-05
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                      #11


                      Put your bitcoin address in.
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                      • littlekona
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                        #12
                        Ty raiders...Says 0 balance and 0 unconfirmed amount...both say same what does that mean
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                        • raiders72001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by littlekona
                          Ty raiders...Says 0 balance and 0 unconfirmed amount...both say same what does that mean
                          Did you click "View Transactions" then "Pending Transactions"?
                          Then click "Tx"
                          Last edited by raiders72001; 01-05-17, 10:46 PM.
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                          • littlekona
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by raiders72001
                            Did you click "View Transactions" then "Pending Transactions"?
                            Then click "Tx"
                            Yes 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE says zero and nothing else... Strange as I sent to direct bet and they received it as status on there site says settlement in process they are waiting for the 1 confirmation...The other one I posted does not show either just previous ones as I've sent to that address before...Any ideas?? It's going on 2 days
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                            • littlekona
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                              #15
                              Well it came back To wallet Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

                              Wonder what hat will happen to my Directbet winning wager still says settlement in process
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                              • Optional
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                Well it came back To wallet Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.

                                Wonder what hat will happen to my Directbet winning wager still says settlement in process
                                I'd guess they will cancel it if you do nothing.

                                Have you contacted them to say you got an error and ask how to resend it? (if they will let you)
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                                • raiders72001
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                                  • 08-10-05
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Optional
                                  I'd guess they will cancel it if you do nothing.

                                  Have you contacted them to say you got an error and ask how to resend it? (if they will let you)
                                  Hopefully DB will pay the win but in the past they have free rolled players. They keep losers, in situations where the original wager isn't automatically refunded, and just refund winners.

                                  When there was a problem with Ethereum wallets, DB accepted the wager, 2 of 3 bets won, the third was winning on a 3 team parlay, DB canceled the bet claiming input error.

                                  DB hand money in hand and instead of paying out the winning parlay, they refunded the player.
                                  Last edited by raiders72001; 01-06-17, 10:20 PM.
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                                  • Optional
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                                    #18
                                    Actually a bit of googling makes it sound not so simple.

                                    That message can appear when someone attacks the network and some random transaction numbers get modified. So your transaction may still be in the memorypool somewhere but under a different ID.

                                    Here is a bit of an explanation I found...

                                    possible that your 2nd TX used the change from your first.
                                    Not sure if you are familiar with change, but your bitcoin balance consist of inputs you can use. These are transactions you have received in the past. Similar to bills you have to use them entirely. E.g. if you received 1 BTC in a single transaction in the past and want to spend 0.4 BTC now. You (or your wallet) would create a TX that uses the 1 BTC as input and create two outputs. One output for 0.4 to the address you selected as recipient and one output for 0.6 to an address that belongs to your wallet. Electrum even shows a list of change addresses IIRC. It is possible for you to use the 0.6 send back to yourself in another transaction before the 1st TX is confirmed. If however the 1st TX gets modified and is confirmed with a different ID the 2nd TX links to an input that does no longer exist. This is because the inputs are identified by the transaction id. Usually TX IDs do not change so its not an issue. While the attacker is modifing random transactions this is a problem and would result in what you describe. The 2nd TX essentially vanished from the network as it became invalid the second the modified 1st transaction was confirmed.



                                    Can't see a solution though...



                                    Maybe directbet got your deposit and its just under another ID and all will be ok? (he says hopefully)
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                                    • raiders72001
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                                      • 08-10-05
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                      Actually a bit of googling makes it sound not so simple.

                                      That message can appear when someone attacks the network and some random transaction numbers get modified. So your transaction may still be in the memorypool somewhere but under a different ID.

                                      Here is a bit of an explanation I found...

                                      possible that your 2nd TX used the change from your first.
                                      Not sure if you are familiar with change, but your bitcoin balance consist of inputs you can use. These are transactions you have received in the past. Similar to bills you have to use them entirely. E.g. if you received 1 BTC in a single transaction in the past and want to spend 0.4 BTC now. You (or your wallet) would create a TX that uses the 1 BTC as input and create two outputs. One output for 0.4 to the address you selected as recipient and one output for 0.6 to an address that belongs to your wallet. Electrum even shows a list of change addresses IIRC. It is possible for you to use the 0.6 send back to yourself in another transaction before the 1st TX is confirmed. If however the 1st TX gets modified and is confirmed with a different ID the 2nd TX links to an input that does no longer exist. This is because the inputs are identified by the transaction id. Usually TX IDs do not change so its not an issue. While the attacker is modifing random transactions this is a problem and would result in what you describe. The 2nd TX essentially vanished from the network as it became invalid the second the modified 1st transaction was confirmed.



                                      Can't see a solution though...



                                      Maybe directbet got your deposit and its just under another ID and all will be ok? (he says hopefully)
                                      His transaction just went in the rejection pile https://blockchain.info/rejected but DB has also been known to confiscate money claiming double spend attempt.
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                                      • littlekona
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                                        #20
                                        I emailed them I'll update when I get an answer...so far my expirerence with them has been good so we will see it's a small wager only about $20 or so payout we will see...it's not like it was my fault or intentional
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                                        • littlekona
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                                          #21
                                          Thanks for betting at DirectBet.

                                          If the initial bet transfer will not confirm by the Bitcoin network, the bet
                                          will be canceled regardless of the result. In this case no payout will be
                                          issued. Similarly, if your bet is lost, your account will not be charged for
                                          it.

                                          I apology for the inconvenience caused, but we can't pay out bets in such
                                          cases because no wager was ever at risk. Otherwise players could abuse it
                                          and only pay for their bets when they win.
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                                          • Optional
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                                            #22
                                            Did you at least get your deposit back in your bitcoin wallet?
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                                            • littlekona
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              Did you at least get your deposit back in your bitcoin wallet?
                                              its still listed as settlement in process....what's strange is that it was confirmed bet on there end it was not rejected...I'm sure I'll get it back as there cs support has been good just strange at least it was only like 20$ or so profit not bigger bet
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                                              • raiders72001
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                                                • 08-10-05
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                                its still listed as settlement in process....what's strange is that it was confirmed bet on there end it was not rejected...I'm sure I'll get it back as there cs support has been good just strange at least it was only like 20$ or so profit not bigger bet
                                                Their CS is very good but they do have a flaw in their system.

                                                If the bet slip says, "wager accepted" , then the bet should be good. In the past, DB has accepted wagers and then later canceled.

                                                The other problem is if there is some type of hangup in the blockchain, caused by a wallet on either end, you won't know if you have a bet or not with DB until the problem is fixed.

                                                It's conceivable that they can accept or reject the bet with only 5 minutes remaining in the game.
                                                Last edited by raiders72001; 01-08-17, 02:10 AM.
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                                                • littlekona
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                                                  #25
                                                  My sent transaction was credited back to my wallet...I asked if they would credit winning minus the wager amount but they wont..here is ticket that won https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtm...8AmPwyPUQPwmiE

                                                  They sent this message with info on there wallet...Anyone have info or used?

                                                  We confirm bets instantly with 0 confirmation, but require 1 confirmation
                                                  before issuing payouts. This is required to ensure that we actually receive
                                                  the coins that you send.

                                                  In this case your bet transfer failed to confirm by the Bitcoin network due
                                                  to an error in your wallet. As a result we have not received the coins for
                                                  this wager and consequently the bet was canceled.

                                                  We can not issue any refund or payout because we have not received any wager

                                                  for this bet, as you can see here in the blockchain :



                                                  You need to contact your wallet provider and ask them why they sent out a
                                                  transfer that failed to confirm.

                                                  To prevent this from happening again in the future we recommend that you use

                                                  our Playing Wallet to fund your Sport bets. This will ensure that all your
                                                  bet transfers will confirm. It's also free, we cover the transactional fees.

                                                  Check it out :



                                                  If you need any further assistance, please contact your wallet provider
                                                  first and forward us their explanation as to the reason for their wallet
                                                  error.

                                                  Best Regards,
                                                  --
                                                  DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !
                                                  Last edited by littlekona; 01-08-17, 12:52 PM.
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                                                  • raiders72001
                                                    Senior Member
                                                    • 08-10-05
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                                    My sent transaction was credited back to my wallet...I asked if they would credit winning minus the wager amount but they wont..They sent this message with info on there wallet...Anyone have info or used?

                                                    We confirm bets instantly with 0 confirmation, but require 1 confirmation
                                                    before issuing payouts. This is required to ensure that we actually receive
                                                    the coins that you send.

                                                    In this case your bet transfer failed to confirm by the Bitcoin network due
                                                    to an error in your wallet. As a result we have not received the coins for
                                                    this wager and consequently the bet was canceled.

                                                    We can not issue any refund or payout because we have not received any wager

                                                    for this bet, as you can see here in the blockchain :



                                                    You need to contact your wallet provider and ask them why they sent out a
                                                    transfer that failed to confirm.

                                                    To prevent this from happening again in the future we recommend that you use

                                                    our Playing Wallet to fund your Sport bets. This will ensure that all your
                                                    bet transfers will confirm. It's also free, we cover the transactional fees.

                                                    Check it out :



                                                    If you need any further assistance, please contact your wallet provider
                                                    first and forward us their explanation as to the reason for their wallet
                                                    error.

                                                    Best Regards,
                                                    --
                                                    DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !
                                                    1. It doesn't have anything to do with your wallet provider. There's a flaw with DB.

                                                    2. The money was returned to your wallet because it was rejected. DB did not return the money

                                                    3. If you bet with DB, their wallet does work. It's the same as depositing with any other book.
                                                    Last edited by raiders72001; 01-08-17, 01:03 PM.
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                                                    • littlekona
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                                                      #27
                                                      I'll try there wallet as I do many small horse plays and that might help..they did give me a 10mbtc free play for trouble FYI ty guys for replys
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                                                      • raiders72001
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                                                        #28
                                                        DB uses Betfair lines adding a lot more take.
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                                                        • littlekona
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                          DB uses Betfair lines adding a lot more take.
                                                          yea I wish I could use bet fair or another similar book but in USA only new jersey can use betfair...The direct bet juice is very high sometimes sick in many cases but during some live games, underdogs and Horse bets there is some value to be found...Plus it allows for live parlays and horse parlays which i like
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                                                          • Optional
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                                                            #30
                                                            Live parlays.

                                                            That sounds like it might be challenging to get on in time every time.

                                                            Interesting though
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                                                            • littlekona
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                                                              #31
                                                              Yea they offer but you do have to watch scores carefully and they do have a no more bets accepted notification and reject some if a goal scores as I do mostly soccer...the one hit that caused this posting was a live parlay soccer wager.
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