John Morrison 2012 MLB Thread

[Barranquilla]

Hagball,

Is anyone just been playing the dogs on the M/L? Even if it is a + number? Just curious. Great thread, lots of info. Thanks.

[hagball52]

Hagball,

Is anyone just been playing the dogs on the M/L? Even if it is a + number? Just curious. Great thread, lots of info. Thanks.

I do but I don't talk about it much because i don't want to sway people from the rules of the system. You can pretty much play it how you want but expect an occasional loss. There are other people who also play the dogs moneyline. My basic rule of thumb is if I can't get +1.5 for -160 or less then I'll play the money line and take my chances.

[BigBurk]

I'm new to playing this system, but great to start of with two (A) wins last night!

Played the Phillies on the ML as I'm not laying that much juice (-220) on the +1.5, glad it worked out. But, as hagball already said, it's still best to follow the rules of the system.

[MexicanStallion]

5-0 on A bets to start the 2H. This has been nice.

[EvilWorker]

I do but I don't talk about it much because i don't want to sway people from the rules of the system. You can pretty much play it how you want but expect an occasional loss. There are other people who also play the dogs moneyline. My basic rule of thumb is if I can't get +1.5 for -160 or less then I'll play the money line and take my chances.

I follow your posts on a daily basis and recommendations for play.

But I do not understand all of what you write in the post.

example

Next Plays
Official
07/13/2012 Washington (.522) @ Miami (.490) +1.5 R/L (A) 4 gm. set
07/13/2012 Oakland (.502) @ Minnesota (.486) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set

*Unofficial*
07/13/2012 Chicago Cubs (.467) v Arizona (.490) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set


Which team is here to play when betting.

For these who are bold, or is there some other hidden option that I can not see. Thanks and excuse the bad English.

[Brundle99]

I follow your posts on a daily basis and recommendations for play.

But I do not understand all of what you write in the post.

example

Next Plays
Official
07/13/2012 Washington (.522) @ Miami (.490) +1.5 R/L (A) 4 gm. set
07/13/2012 Oakland (.502) @ Minnesota (.486) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set

*Unofficial*
07/13/2012 Chicago Cubs (.467) v Arizona (.490) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set


Which team is here to play when betting.

For these who are bold, or is there some other hidden option that I can not see. Thanks and excuse the bad English.

You bet on the team in Bold which is also the first team listed.

Bet on the Runline if the team your betting on is the Underdog. (displayed as +1.5)

Bet on the Moneyline if the team your betting on is the Favorite.
(displayed as -1.5)

We are betting that a team will win one game, out of three consecutive games.

GL

[hagball52]

Thanks Brundle for answering that.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 10-0 (v1)
(A) 6-4
(B) 3-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 6-0
Unofficial series 23-0
(A) 18-5
(B) 5-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

*Unofficial*
07/16/2012 Minnesota (.484) v Baltimore (.522) M/L (A) WIN
07/16/2012 Philadelphia (.475) @ LA Dodgers (.492) R/L/M/L (A) WIN

Next Plays

*Unofficial*
07/17/2012 Chicago Cubs (.473) v Miami (.493) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set

V3
07/17/2012 Baltimore (.519) @ Minnesota (.485) +1.5 R/L (A) 2 gm.set

Upcoming Plays
07/19/2012 Oakland v NY Yankees
07/20/2012 Seattle @ Tampa Bay
07/23/2012 St Louis v LA Dodgers
07/23/2012 Chicago Cubs @ Pittsburgh
07/23/2012 Miami v Atlanta

Notes: Kaaaaching ! Another perfect night. Two high juice run line plays today. Let's hope the streak continues. GL All

[alexknyc]

You bet on the team in Bold which is also the first team listed.

Bet on the Runline if the team your betting on is the Underdog. (displayed as +1.5)

Bet on the Moneyline if the team your betting on is the Favorite.
(displayed as -1.5)

We are betting that a team will win one game, out of three consecutive games.

GL

The moneyline is not -1.5, that would be the runline for the favorite.

The moneyline is the bet that the team will win.

[Brundle99]

The moneyline is not -1.5, that would be the runline for the favorite.

The moneyline is the bet that the team will win.

What I mean is: Bet on the (Moneyline) if the team is the favorite, the favorite team is indicated with a (-). not to bet on the Runline -1.5.

I should have made this clear, apologies.

[ItalianHokie]

Been tailing this system for a couple days, great work! Just curious are you parlaying these plays with lots of juice? I noticed today for example Cubs +1.5 (-160) and O's +1.5 (-200). Obviously not a lot of value there but do you still play them separately?

[azngujuonfire]

Are we actually fading John Morrison in this thread, or tailing him? I know this thread is its own chase system, but as far as the games/picks, are they fading john morrison?

Thanks

[Wallco99]

Are we actually fading John Morrison in this thread, or tailing him? I know this thread is its own chase system, but as far as the games/picks, are they fading john morrison?

Thanks

No fade. Just playing by the actual rules and not the ones he makes up as he goes along to eliminate losses.

[Brundle99]

Are we actually fading John Morrison in this thread, or tailing him? I know this thread is its own chase system, but as far as the games/picks, are they fading john morrison?

Thanks

We are following the system as it is written in JM's PDF's.

Hagball lists all three versions of the JM MLB system, Whether they are Official or Unofficial, and the plays are created according to the JM rules.

[Brundle99]

Thanks Brundle for answering that.

Happy to help.

Thanks for the points!

[Brundle99]

Here's the latest JM email, sent just under an hour ago:

Good job again on cashing on yet 2 more easy [A] wagers yesterday!
Not only are we undefeated so far this season on both the official
and unofficial series, we have now won 9 straight [A] bets in a
row! For today, we have an unofficial [A] bet on the Chicago Cubs.

[hagball52]

Here's the latest JM email, sent just under an hour ago:

Good job again on cashing on yet 2 more easy [A] wagers yesterday!
Not only are we undefeated so far this season on both the official
and unofficial series, we have now won 9 straight [A] bets in a
row! For today, we have an unofficial [A] bet on the Chicago Cubs.

What's funny about that email is yesterday he sent an email out saying there were 2 (A) bets for tracking purposes only because they were unofficial and today he sends an email out saying "good job on cashing on the plays". Just something I noticed.

[BreakDaBook]

Hi, first time posting on the thread, just wanna say great job to hagball52 for tracking and updating all the plays. Keep up the good work.

Just have a qucik question about the JM system. Why do we quit on a chase after the series is over?
Reason I'm asking is because according to Hagballs stats for last year the official system went 29-1 and the unofficial went 57-6, also in past years where Morrisons system had only 4 or 5 series losses in a season (read that somewhere on the thread, can't dig it up). With these stats why not just continue the chase onto the following series sytem play rather then chalkin it up as a loss and potentially spend the rest of the season tryin to make up for it. Now I understand the price could get a little steep, but eventually ur going to hit that winner. The numbers are there to back it up. Just decrease your single unit bet if you have to in order to absorb a long losing streak.
Maybe it would be a good idea to track total losing streaks??


This can even work with V3 bets. If you have a V3 bet going and you lose both your B and C bet, just take those loses and tack them on to your next system play or whatever play is next, rather then just starting over again with a single unit bet.

does this make any sense or will it just not work?

[hagball52]

Hi, first time posting on the thread, just wanna say great job to hagball52 for tracking and updating all the plays. Keep up the good work.

Just have a qucik question about the JM system. Why do we quit on a chase after the series is over?
Reason I'm asking is because according to Hagballs stats for last year the official system went 29-1 and the unofficial went 57-6, also in past years where Morrisons system had only 4 or 5 series losses in a season (read that somewhere on the thread, can't dig it up). With these stats why not just continue the chase onto the following series sytem play rather then chalkin it up as a loss and potentially spend the rest of the season tryin to make up for it. Now I understand the price could get a little steep, but eventually ur going to hit that winner. The numbers are there to back it up. Just decrease your single unit bet if you have to in order to absorb a long losing streak.
Maybe it would be a good idea to track total losing streaks??


This can even work with V3 bets. If you have a V3 bet going and you lose both your B and C bet, just take those loses and tack them on to your next system play or whatever play is next, rather then just starting over again with a single unit bet.

does this make any sense or will it just not work?

If you have the bankroll and the cajones to do it go ahead. When you start getting to a (D), (E) and (F) bet the amounts climb rapidly and if your laying high juice it just makes it worse. I know of one guy who does that but he's got a large bankroll. He doesn't quit until he wins but one year he was betting the Dallas Cowboys when they went on that long losing streak 2 seasons ago. It was like 6 or 7 against the spread losses and he had out like 5 grand on an original $500 bet. He eventually won but a lot of people can't absorb that much money. And once in awhile a team will lose a lot. The Seattle Mariners lost 17 in a row last year.

[BreakDaBook]

If you have the bankroll and the cajones to do it go ahead. When you start getting to a (D), (E) and (F) bet the amounts climb rapidly and if your laying high juice it just makes it worse. I know of one guy who does that but he's got a large bankroll. He doesn't quit until he wins but one year he was betting the Dallas Cowboys when they went on that long losing streak 2 seasons ago. It was like 6 or 7 against the spread losses and he had out like 5 grand on an original $500 bet. He eventually won but a lot of people can't absorb that much money. And once in awhile a team will lose a lot. The Seattle Mariners lost 17 in a row last year.

I agree with u about having a big bankroll or at least proper management of your bank roll in order to absorb a long losing streak. But as far as a team going on a long losing streak, that shouldnt affect the bet because your not continuing the chase with that team. your just taking the accumulative losses from the series and adding it to your next system play bet. So unless the system goes on long losing streaks of 6,7,8,9 or more games, you should be ok. speaking of long losing streaks do you know what the longest losing streak the system had last year or any previous??

Maybe it might be a good idea to track the systems losing streaks after C and D bet loses as well as total losing streaks over a season.
See if it ever gets up over an unmanagable number.

[Wallco99]

What's funny about that email is yesterday he sent an email out saying there were 2 (A) bets for tracking purposes only because they were unofficial and today he sends an email out saying "good job on cashing on the plays". Just something I noticed.

I already checked into that as one of the 13 backtests I have run since April, there are many many long losing streaks in baseball, and believe me, you don't want to be on the losing end of many of them. Keep in mind, the teams in this system qualify because they have already been swept, which means the majority of the teams we bet on are subpar teams. These subpar teams are the ones prone to long losing streaks. Not all are plays are this way, but many are.

[hagball52]

I agree with u about having a big bankroll or at least proper management of your bank roll in order to absorb a long losing streak. But as far as a team going on a long losing streak, that shouldnt affect the bet because your not continuing the chase with that team. your just taking the accumulative losses from the series and adding it to your next system play bet. So unless the system goes on long losing streaks of 6,7,8,9 or more games, you should be ok. speaking of long losing streaks do you know what the longest losing streak the system had last year or any previous??

Maybe it might be a good idea to track the systems losing streaks after C and D bet loses as well as total losing streaks over a season.
See if it ever gets up over an unmanagable number.

You would be better off to wait until the NBA season kicks in. Wallco has developed a system that's right up your alley. He had a few (D) bet losses last season but then the next 1 or 2 games always won after that. I agree about baseball. Its a long season and almost all of the teams go on some sort of losing streak. If you got the roll and the nuts you will eventually win.

[EvilWorker]

Here is the page where I bet

If someone that can play a ticket to see how it looked in the betting, which I follow.

https://www.supersport.hr/ponuda/client

[Brundle99]

Here is the page where I bet

If someone that can play a ticket to see how it looked in the betting, which I follow.

https://www.supersport.hr/ponuda/client

Are you clear about betting with the JM System?, if not I will send you the MLB V1 PDF which includes screenshot pictures of how to bet.

[BigBurk]

Brundle, please send it to me as well while you are on it!

[Brundle99]

Brundle, please send it to me as well while you are on it!

Sure,

Go to this link and you can download it from my Google Drive: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1C...1k5bmVyM0gtc28

[hagball52]

JM MLB System
2012 Official season series record 10-0 (v1)
(A) 6-4
(B) 3-1
(C) 1-0
V2 plays 1-0
V3 system 6-0 (1 series pending)
Unofficial series 23-0 (1 series pending)
(A) 18-6
(B) 5-0
(C) 0-0
V2 plays 2-0

*Unofficial*
07/17/2012 Chicago Cubs (.473) v Miami (.493) +1.5 R/L (A) LOSS
V3
07/17/2012 Baltimore (.519) @ Minnesota (.485) +1.5 R/L (A) LOSS

Next Plays
*Unofficial*
07/18/2012 Chicago Cubs (.471) v Miami (.494) +1.5 R/L (B) V2

V3
07/18/2012 Baltimore (.517) @ Minnesota (.486) +1.5 R/L (B) **

** I made a mistake yesterday. I posted the V3 play as 2 game set when the whole series is a 4 game set so that makes this a 3 game series. There is a possible (C) bet if BAL loses by 2 or more today. Sorry for the miss.

Upcoming Plays
07/19/2012 Oakland v NY Yankees
07/20/2012 Seattle @ Tampa Bay
07/23/2012 St Louis v LA Dodgers
07/23/2012 Chicago Cubs @ Pittsburgh
07/23/2012 Miami v Atlanta

Notes: The (A) bet honeymoon couldn't last forever. Let's get the (B) bets today. Also there are 2 possible sweeps today but only one with a future play. Will update everything tomorrow. GL All

P.S. There is one team that has not been swept at all this year. Their longest losing streak is 4 games. Who is it?

[knugen]

Rangers?

[hagball52]

Rangers?

No they recently got swept by the White Sox. But, I was wrong to begin with. It was Cincinnati but they got swept at Cleveland during interleague play and there was no future play so I didn't have it on record. My Bad.

[robson]

White Sox not been swept at all this year.

[NZT-48]

hey hag hows it going brother?....the plays of the day you posted earlier Im kind of confused about how you got them listed just to clear it up.....is the Cubs game a v1 unofficial B bet and is the Orioles game a v1 B bet unofficial as well? thanks hag

No they recently got swept by the White Sox. But, I was wrong to begin with. It was Cincinnati but they got swept at Cleveland during interleague play and there was no future play so I didn't have it on record. My Bad.

[Win89]

Hagball, do V2 plays count for unofficial series? JM doesn't really say they're for official or unofficial but he does mention something about the RPI in his little example within the PDF. Just curious.

[BreakDaBook]

Hey guys, can someone just confirm that my betting is right, just wanna make sure im placing the proper bets.

Last nights bets:
$25 on Cubs +1.5 Risk $42 To Win $25
$25 on Bal +1.5 Risk $52 To Win $25

Beth bets lost so now I'm -$94

Should todays bets look like this:

$25 on Cubs +1.5 Risk $118 To Win $67
$25 on Bal +1.5 Risk $112 To Win $77

Total To Win is $144 which minus the $94 i lost would give me a profit of $50 ($25 on each series, which is my single unit play)

So i just took the total that i lost from each game and added another To Win $25 bet on top of each game.
Not sure if I should be doing this or should I be taking my total risk from the previous games and then adding a To Win $50 bet on top of each game, which would be doubling my original To Win $25 bet.

Help ASAP would be appreciated so that i can get the proper bets in tonight.

[hagball52]

hey hag hows it going brother?....the plays of the day you posted earlier Im kind of confused about how you got them listed just to clear it up.....is the Cubs game a v1 unofficial B bet and is the Orioles game a v1 B bet unofficial as well? thanks hag

Cubs were a v1 unofficial and Baltimore a V3 play. It was all marked in the post.

[hagball52]

Hagball, do V2 plays count for unofficial series? JM doesn't really say they're for official or unofficial but he does mention something about the RPI in his little example within the PDF. Just curious.

We weren't sure either so we decided to post it for unofficial and official and its up to you whether or not you want to bet it. A lot of people don't play the V2 because it didn't have great success last year. We are just showing the results for both plays.