Monday Value Plays

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 10:09 AM

This isn't a series, just a postponed game.

Dashwood Clipper · 09-01-08, 10:09 AM

Must be make up game. Like your pick, but the Yanks are in Tampa tomorrow. Sweep quite possible

ICE-BLOOD · 09-01-08, 10:21 AM

yanks +ml looks good
i dont know about backing ponson tho

Wilforth · 09-01-08, 10:25 AM

Ponson delivers in this kind of situation. Plus few things are worse than the Tigers' bullpen. The Tigers have nothing to play for while the Yanks still have reasons to play.

ICE-BLOOD · 09-01-08, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Wilforth

Ponson delivers in this kind of situation. Plus few things are worse than the Tigers' bullpen. The Tigers have nothing to play for while the Yanks still have reasons to play.

fair points
gonna tune in this one
still not sold on ponson tho

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 10:51 AM

I forgot the statistic. But following Yankee losses, Ponson has a good ERA.

ICE-BLOOD · 09-01-08, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by fifawcs

I forgot the statistic. But following Yankee losses, Ponson has a good ERA.

thats digging deep to find a ponson positive
seems like he doesnt give up too many jacks tho

johnnymapalo · 09-01-08, 10:57 AM

Eff the Yanks. You should go for the Red Sox on the -1.5 runline or Indians 1st 5 innings and call it a day.. Both the Yanks and Tigers play sh!tty on 1st days of a series.. Ponson should be able to hold the Tigers in check though. Verlander is thrash. You will probably win this pick but there are some better guaranteed picks out there today..

ICE-BLOOD · 09-01-08, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by johnnymapalo

Eff the Yanks. You should go for the Red Sox on the -1.5 runline or Indians 1st 5 innings and call it a day.. Both the Yanks and Tigers play sh!tty on 1st days of a series.. Ponson should be able to hold the Tigers in check though. Verlander is thrash. You will probably win this pick but there are some better guaranteed picks out there today..

i agree with the yankee or evn tiger BS
both those 2 plays make alot of sense
GL

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by ICE-BLOOD

thats digging deep to find a ponson positive
seems like he doesnt give up too many jacks tho

That statistic is the reason why he has been known to be a stopper. I heard it while watching one of the Yes Network broadcasts.

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 11:52 AM

ponsons is awful
but yanks are the play here easily
they are a million times better than the tigers, this is a no brainer
yanks are the play

good luck

aznbluff · 09-01-08, 11:59 AM

What about Verlanders 2.50 ERA in his last 3 makes you think he hasnt pitched well recently?

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 12:02 PM

verlander has a home 4.6 era, he allowed 5 runs his last start
most overrated pitcher in baseball, the dude is garbage and the tigers are awful
defending sidney ponson is impossible, he is not a stopper, yes network pimps any yank, but the yanks are better, and plus money

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 12:11 PM

verlander
most overrated pitcher in the league
he is not good, why do people think he is

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 01:48 PM

there is one major league pitcher worse than ponson

verlander
ponsons ia wful today but lucky the yanks are gonna score 20 for him

the dude is awful, and it took a month for his true colors to show

aznbluff · 09-01-08, 01:49 PM

Is 20 enough?

yisman · 09-01-08, 01:54 PM

Ponson is absolutely terrible. Dude should not be a major league pitcher.

I'd take Verlander over him in a heartbeat.

yisman · 09-01-08, 01:54 PM

up to 19 runs now in the 4th.

Over 10 was an excellent pick.

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 01:54 PM

probably
but they may need 25

ponsons is so bad
he had like 5 good starts and yanks fans ignored the last 5 years

they finally hit and he gives almost every single run right back

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 02:15 PM

The Yanks are still in a good position to win. Tigers have a worse pen than the Yanks. Ponson has regressed lately. When he was on the Yanks a couple years back, he was a gas can. Now that he is starting to return to that, the Yanks need Joba back. Our starting 5 right now isn't the worst: Pettitte, Mussina, Pavano, Ponson, Rasner. when Joba comes back, then we will only have 1 worthless starter.

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 02:16 PM

posons is not good
he is garbage
worthless

yisman · 09-01-08, 02:17 PM

I agree. He got a few wins because he got extremely lucky. Yankees hit very well when he starts, for whatever reason. Awful pitcher.

yisman · 09-01-08, 02:19 PM

last time Ponson was decent was 2003. Five seasons of awful pitching and he's still in the majors?

He's also extremely overweight and a criminal.

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 04:05 PM

All that matters is that we won. Im considering White Sox +161 for the evening.

Wilforth · 09-01-08, 04:13 PM

Thanks fifawcs for this nice call.
Next, the White Sox.
We've missed out on the Nats even when we know Kendrick is funky in daytime and the Nats are now scoring regularly.

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 04:15 PM

No. You are better off without the Nats. They are a "value trap." They may have won today, but 8 times out of 10 they lost that game. IF you took them today, you would probably take them tomorrow since you would be so stoked that you won. It's better not to involve yourself with them for the rest of the season.

The Chi Sox should win this game unless Cliff Lee is the greatest pitcher who ever lived.

ryanXL977 · 09-01-08, 04:43 PM

the chisox starter is bad and remember, the chisox aint a good road team.
but, its a dog i guess

but i dont see cleve as worse than the chisox right now, not with lee dealing and victor back

fifawcs · 09-01-08, 06:04 PM

I did it. White Sox +155