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  • AC1318
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-09-06
    • 6712

    #1
    It is obvious everyone betting TB
    You are all gonna lose and at a hefty price

    be smart don't bet or bet KC which at gametime will be +190 since everyone is hammering TB.

    meche is decent enough to hold them in it and KC can score
    also garza is 0-3 vs TB although through the innings pitched he has kept the runs down relatively low vs them

    5 1/3 innings 4 runs lost 9-4
    6 2/3 innings 1 run lost 1-0
    7 2/3 innings 2 runs lost 2-0

    meche isn't much better at 2-6 giving up no more than 6 runs and an average of call it 4 runs

    2 games as a royal leaving him 1-1 loss vs shields and a win vs sonnanstine

    bet what you like I wish the game was later so I could bet KC

    If you didn't bet them yesterday you missed the boat with shields (thanks again PV) today isn't the day to make up for it.
  • pat venditto
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-07-07
    • 14347

    #2
    gambling doesnt affect outcomes of games.if 90% of public bettors are on team a that does not mean they will lose.

    obv tb the better team but at that price i don't think its worth it today. doesnt mean it wont win though.
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82818

      #3
      Originally posted by AC1318
      You are all gonna lose and at a hefty price

      be smart don't bet or bet KC which at gametime will be +190 since everyone is hammering TB.

      meche is decent enough to hold them in it and KC can score
      also garza is 0-3 vs TB although through the innings pitched he has kept the runs down relatively low vs them

      5 1/3 innings 4 runs lost 9-4
      6 2/3 innings 1 run lost 1-0
      7 2/3 innings 2 runs lost 2-0

      meche isn't much better at 2-6 giving up no more than 6 runs and an average of call it 4 runs

      2 games as a royal leaving him 1-1 loss vs shields and a win vs sonnanstine

      bet what you like I wish the game was later so I could bet KC

      If you didn't bet them yesterday you missed the boat with shields (thanks again PV) today isn't the day to make up for it.
      When did Royals acquire Garza? Overnight?
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      • pat venditto
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-07-07
        • 14347

        #4
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        • darrell74
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-16-07
          • 14648

          #5
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          When did Royals acquire Garza? Overnight?
          Guess Garza's a Royal, now.
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          • AC1318
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-09-06
            • 6712

            #6
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            When did Royals acquire Garza? Overnight?
            In any case you know what I meant but go ahead and play TB along with the peanut gallery you can laugh now but you will be crying later
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            • AC1318
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-09-06
              • 6712

              #7
              Originally posted by darrell74
              Guess Garza's a Royal, now.
              when KC wins you might think he is and you might do this
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              • AC1318
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-09-06
                • 6712

                #8
                Originally posted by pat venditto
                gambling doesnt affect outcomes of games.if 90% of public bettors are on team a that does not mean they will lose.

                obv tb the better team but at that price i don't think its worth it today. doesnt mean it wont win though.
                well I am yet to see the majority of this forum be correct on one game and I doubt it starts tonight. I myself much rather fade the public.
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                • AC1318
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-09-06
                  • 6712

                  #9
                  I like under 8
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                  • Broke Sport Guy
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-14-08
                    • 152

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AC1318
                    well I am yet to see the majority of this forum be correct on one game and I doubt it starts tonight.
                    One of the dumbest posts I've ever read.
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                    • AC1318
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-09-06
                      • 6712

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Broke Sport Guy
                      One of the dumbest posts I've ever read.
                      that's fine you bet TB as well

                      I am sure your signature name is for a reason

                      I like to fade the public you can choose otherwise broke SG

                      I didn't know it was such a big deal to fade the public by betting on a team whose opposing pitcher has never won yet against gives +170 odds

                      oh now I see why you chose that name lay the -200

                      as I write I see the odds changed what warrants garza to be the same favorite as shields ???

                      All the fvcking genius people should tell me

                      meche is better than hochevar
                      but garza isn't better than shields
                      why should the same odds apply

                      shields was 3-0 going into yesterday
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                      • sickness
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 07-04-08
                        • 263

                        #12
                        stop hating guys.

                        the man is entitled to have his own opinion.



                        on a side note, i still think TB is gona kill it.
                        Sports Newb since July '08
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82818

                          #13
                          Gil Meche last 6 starts against AL:

                          Jul 2 @ BAL L 2-5
                          Jun 10 TEX L 5-6
                          Jun 5 @ CHW L 2-6
                          May 30 CLE L 4-5
                          May 25 @ TOR L 1-3
                          May 20 @ BOS L 1-2

                          Mat Garza last 6 home starts against AL:

                          Jul 1 BOS W 3-1
                          Jun 14 FLA W 4-1
                          May 28 TEX W 5-3
                          May 23 BAL W 2-0
                          May 12 NYY W 7-1
                          Apr 25 BOS W 5-4
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                          • AC1318
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-09-06
                            • 6712

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                            Gil Meche last 6 starts against AL:

                            Jul 2 @ BAL L 2-5
                            Jun 10 TEX L 5-6
                            Jun 5 @ CHW L 2-6
                            May 30 CLE L 4-5
                            May 25 @ TOR L 1-3
                            May 20 @ BOS L 1-2

                            Mat Garza last 6 home starts against AL:

                            Jul 1 BOS W 3-1
                            Jun 14 FLA W 4-1
                            May 28 TEX W 5-3
                            May 23 BAL W 2-0
                            May 12 NYY W 7-1
                            Apr 25 BOS W 5-4
                            garza 5-1 still good florida don't count and loss to seattle

                            meche 2-4
                            loss
                            bal 7/2
                            wsox 6/5
                            tor 5/25
                            bos 5/20
                            won
                            clev 5/4
                            laa 4/16

                            but garza is still 0-3 vs KC that is my point and I normally make money. So for him to be 0-3 and laying 200 to me is stupid.
                            I guess we will see what happens good luck
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                            • Wilforth
                              Restricted User
                              • 05-10-08
                              • 16309

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              Gil Meche last 6 starts against AL:

                              Jul 2 @ BAL L 2-5
                              Jun 10 TEX L 5-6
                              Jun 5 @ CHW L 2-6
                              May 30 CLE L 4-5
                              May 25 @ TOR L 1-3
                              May 20 @ BOS L 1-2

                              Mat Garza last 6 home starts against AL:

                              Jul 1 BOS W 3-1
                              Jun 14 FLA W 4-1
                              May 28 TEX W 5-3
                              May 23 BAL W 2-0
                              May 12 NYY W 7-1
                              Apr 25 BOS W 5-4
                              All that won't count this afternoon. Moreover, the longer a pitcher's home win streak, the closer he is to being upset!!! TB may not lose this afternoon, but Garza is close to losing at home.
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                              • patsfan2727
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-28-07
                                • 579

                                #16
                                losing at a "HEFTY" price

                                you're right, -200 is alot of chalk to lay on TB, but I hate how you say you're going to lose the bet at a hefty price. If I put $100 on TB at -200 and lose $100, is it any different than putting $100 on KC at +170 and losing that bet? If you lose, the juice is really irrelevant...This mentality makes no sense to me....
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                                • strictlywinners
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-17-07
                                  • 3377

                                  #17
                                  If anyone follows AC's posts he wins alot, this game is a leave alone for me, and if you are taking tampa good luck, if I took anything it would be the Royals here. Remember good teams tend to have let downs against bad ones, because their will to win is not as strong.
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                                  • sickness
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 07-04-08
                                    • 263

                                    #18
                                    still got TB regardless.

                                    however that isn't my best pick of the day.
                                    Sports Newb since July '08
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                                    • Wilforth
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 05-10-08
                                      • 16309

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AC1318
                                      I like under 8
                                      That's the safest and most sensible play here. At -200, TB isn't anymore a favorite to win this game. When a favorite's line goes from -170 to -200, you have to put on your thinking cap and either let the game pass or restrict your play to the o/u, if at all. With Garza being 0-3 against the Royals and Meche itching to break his road losing streak, this game can go either way.
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                                      • Deke101
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-15-07
                                        • 1213

                                        #20
                                        -200 is for parlays. If you like them enough to play them -200 you should like them enough to try the run line instead.

                                        I know where you are coming from AC. But, I think TB has it going on right now offensively and they are 36-13 at home. And although you think the pitching match-up may be 50/50, the bats are still 80/20 in favor of TB here, especially at Tampa.

                                        I may put a small play on TB -1.5. Or I may find a prop.
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                                        • Wilforth
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 05-10-08
                                          • 16309

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pat venditto
                                          gambling doesnt affect outcomes of games.if 90% of public bettors are on team a that does not mean they will lose.

                                          obv tb the better team but at that price i don't think its worth it today. doesnt mean it wont win though.
                                          "gambling doesnt affect outcomes of games". It's hard to prove that.
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                                          • darrell74
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-16-07
                                            • 14648

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by AC1318
                                            when KC wins you might think he is and you might do this
                                            Hater in the forum.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82818

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Wilforth
                                              That's the safest and most sensible play here. At -200, TB isn't anymore a favorite to win this game. When a favorite's line goes from -170 to -200, you have to put on your thinking cap and either let the game pass or restrict your play to the o/u, if at all. With Garza being 0-3 against the Royals and Meche itching to break his road losing streak, this game can go either way.
                                              Garza is indeed 0-3 against Royals but look at the big picture (his numbers).

                                              3 3 0 3 0 0 0 19.2 18 11 7 0 3 19 3.20 1.07 .254

                                              He lasted 20 innings in his three losses gave up only 7 ER's, walked only 3, strikeout 19 and had 18 hits.

                                              If you take away the 0-3 these are all star pitching stats.
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                                              • unde0087
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-27-08
                                                • 28952

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by AC1318
                                                that's fine you bet TB as well

                                                I am sure your signature name is for a reason

                                                I like to fade the public you can choose otherwise broke SG

                                                I didn't know it was such a big deal to fade the public by betting on a team whose opposing pitcher has never won yet against gives +170 odds

                                                oh now I see why you chose that name lay the -200

                                                as I write I see the odds changed what warrants garza to be the same favorite as shields ???

                                                All the fvcking genius people should tell me

                                                meche is better than hochevar
                                                but garza isn't better than shields
                                                why should the same odds apply

                                                shields was 3-0 going into yesterday

                                                This is an easy RL play, like i said in your other thread, and incase you didn't know, Garza has given up only 1 run in his last 2 starts in 16 innings of work. He is also 5-1 at home this season. I am not saying Royals can't win but Meche is going to have to be sensational to give them any chance. D'Rays are on fire right now, they are going to score runs. I don't know if it would be the smartest thing to bet against D'Rays when they are playing at home with one of their hottest pitchers on the hill.
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                                                • unde0087
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-27-08
                                                  • 28952

                                                  #25
                                                  Let me also point out that in the 3 meetings this season between these two, Royals have not even covered a RL yet. They have lost by 3 or more in every game and have been outscored 23-4. I'll take my chances with those numbers.
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                                                  • fifawcs
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-14-07
                                                    • 2888

                                                    #26
                                                    I think royals will win it. I'm with you AC
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                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                      • 12757

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AC1318
                                                      well I am yet to see the majority of this forum be correct on one game and I doubt it starts tonight. I myself much rather fade the public.
                                                      What , did Colorado and Cinn not cover run line yeaterday ?

                                                      Thought Boston won at +150 last night.

                                                      I know I saw Washington beat those 2 crappy pitchers Cinn put out Friday and Saturday.

                                                      the forum masses are always right.
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                                                      • rb4033
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-14-08
                                                        • 866

                                                        #28
                                                        I on royals -1.5
                                                        great bet!
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                                                        • pokernut9999
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 07-25-07
                                                          • 12757

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rb4033
                                                          I on royals -1.5
                                                          great bet!
                                                          Great odds I bet
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                                                          • Cloak & Dagger
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-15-07
                                                            • 4781

                                                            #30
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                                                            • ryanXL977
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-24-08
                                                              • 20615

                                                              #31
                                                              let me know when its over
                                                              when kc wins, then you are right
                                                              win some lose some
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                                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-12-07
                                                                • 12144

                                                                #32
                                                                Wish I would have woken up a little earlier. I took the under last night but wanted to take the inflated KC line too. These guys obviously haven't been betting baseball long, AC. Good value in KC today. Hopefully these guys will continue to hammer the favorites so we can start getting some decent value in more dogs...
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                                                                • Brady2Moss
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-02-08
                                                                  • 1500

                                                                  #33
                                                                  according to THIS line, KC is getting value... I bet KC +1.5 and its looking GOOD!!!!
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                                                                  • Brady2Moss
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-02-08
                                                                    • 1500

                                                                    #34
                                                                    UH OH, tie game boys
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                                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                                      • 20615

                                                                      #35
                                                                      tb will win
                                                                      justw ait
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