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  • imgv94
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-16-05
    • 17192

    #36
    Originally posted by imgv94
    Let me show you one example, I have a parlay going tomorrow
    from Seattle -4(NBA) to Blue Jays(MLB) and it is paying +208
    for 1 unit. So now I only risked 1 unit to make 2 units. Sounds
    good to me.
    Yeah Parlays are sucker bets!! LOL!!!
    NOT!!!!!!!!!
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    • ganchrow
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-28-05
      • 5011

      #37
      Originally posted by maritime
      Obviously there are many factors involved, none greater than the individual handicapper's ability to pick winners.
      Indeed. But of course even a bettor with no actual handicapping skill might in theory still have an edge betting correlated parlays.

      Originally posted by maritime
      Assume a starting bank roll of $880. You bet on 2 games each day. Odds on both are -110. ... 50% chance you split (-$20)
      (In the case of a split you'd of course only lose $10 ($100 win - $110 loss = $10 net loss) ... but your final values still hold.)

      Originally posted by maritime
      In the end, you lose total of $40. End bankroll is $840.
      Placing 8 $110 bets, yes, your expectation is a loss of $40 ($880 * -4.55% = $40)

      Originally posted by maritime
      Now let's do parlays instead. Same bankroll of $880 ... In the end, you lose $78. End bankroll is $802.
      Using true 2-team parlay odds off a -110 line set, yes your expectation placing 4 $220 parlays is a loss of about $78.

      So indeed, if you're a coin flip bettor you'd do worse percentage-wise betting parlays than you would placing straight bets. (Of course if you're a coin flip bettor you'd do better still not placing ANY bets at all.)

      But if you're let's say a break-even bettor, then your expectation is exactly the same whether you bet parlays or straight bets. And if you're a positive expectation bettor then you'd do better with parlays then you would with straight bets. I posted a primer on parlays describing this a few months back.

      Now for someone like the OP who so clearly considers himself a positive expectancy bettor (as misguided as you or I might suspect him of being), it would make sense (from his perspective) to bet parlays. Of course if he's sufficiently overestimating his level of skill then he'll certainly lose more quickly using this tactic ... but at least he'd have been internally consistent in his reasoning.

      Anyway though, good post ... I always do appreciate a little math.
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      • imgv94
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-16-05
        • 17192

        #38
        maritime and ganchrow are cool!!!
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        • tacomax
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-10-05
          • 9619

          #39
          Originally posted by Winston Smith
          I keep waiting for the punchline....
          But it was sweet of imgv94 to invite his brother to the SBR forums.
          Last edited by tacomax; 04-08-06, 08:24 PM.
          Originally posted by pags11
          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
          Originally posted by BuddyBear
          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
          Originally posted by curious
          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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          • imgv94
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-16-05
            • 17192

            #40
            I have no idea who flamers is?
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            • tacomax
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-10-05
              • 9619

              #41
              Originally posted by Flamers
              Parlays are the way to go for baseball. If the White Sox could have kept the lead, I would have won $400 yesterday betting only $100.
              I've highlighted the key word for you there.

              Originally posted by Flamers
              Everyday in Baseball you should put together a 5 or 6 team parlay for $50/$100 and you could win $3,000-$4,000.
              And by the same reasoning, everyday you should be able to go out and pull Jessica Alba and you could end up shagging her up the arse all night.

              But in all liklihood, the reality is that you'll spend the night jacking off into a Kleenex.
              Originally posted by pags11
              SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
              Originally posted by BuddyBear
              I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
              Originally posted by curious
              taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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              • ganchrow
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-28-05
                • 5011

                #42
                Originally posted by tacomax
                But in all liklihood, the reality is that you'll spend the night jacking off into a Kleenex.
                Don't knock my hobbies.
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                • mlwitchking
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-28-06
                  • 246

                  #43
                  question for you all:
                  does pinnacle offer parlays or teasers on any sport?

                  Edit:
                  I found the answer.


                  New question:
                  How are parlays for baseball calculated for money lines?
                  Last edited by mlwitchking; 04-08-06, 08:59 PM.
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                  • ganchrow
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-28-05
                    • 5011

                    #44
                    Originally posted by mlwitchking
                    How are parlays calculated for money lines?
                    1. Convert odds to decimal
                    2. Take the product of all the decimal odds
                    3. Subtract 1


                    Example:
                    Parlaying two money lines of -110
                    Converting -110 to decimal odds gives us decimal odds of 1.91
                    Multiplying 1.91 x 1.91 ≈ 3.64
                    Subtracting 1 gives us 2.64.

                    This means that for every $1 bet on the parlay you'd receive $2.64 if it wins.
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #45
                      mlwitchking, in regards to your parlay being calculated. heres an easier way for you to do your figuring those out. pinnacle has a Multi-Way Calculator on there site. it's the 6th option down on the left hand side, under the change language option.
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