The early one - ChiSox@Cubbies - lets hear it

tab · 06-20-08, 07:54 AM

Be careful taking the cubs in this one. Remember they played a night game at Tampa last night while the white sox were playing a home game in Chicago. The White sox do not need to travel much and should be rested. The Cubs are going to be fatigued and will feel the jet lag. The cubs should have won yesterday if not for their bullpen. Marmol will probably not be available today. That is why the line is cubs -125. If the cubs had played a home game the day before, the cubs would be -160 favorites. Few white sox players have hit LIly hard in the past. The cubs nor any of its active players have never faced Danks. I feel like that Danks has the advantage.

fifawcs · 06-20-08, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by tab

Be careful taking the cubs in this one. Remember they played a night game at Tampa last night while the white sox were playing a home game in Chicago. The White sox do not need to travel much and should be rested. The Cubs are going to be fatigued and will feel the jet lag. The cubs should have won yesterday if not for their bullpen. Marmol will probably not be available today. That is why the line is cubs -125. If the cubs had played a home game the day before, the cubs would be -160 favorites. Few white sox players have hit LIly hard in the past. The cubs nor any of its active players have never faced Danks. I feel like that Danks has the advantage.

Why do you put so much stock into jet lag? These are professional athletes who are used to playing under tough circumstances. Besides, there is only a 1 hour time difference between Tampa and Chicago.

onlooker · 06-20-08, 10:37 AM

White Sox.

Crayzee · 06-20-08, 10:38 AM

i gotta take a small shot on the red hot chisox

oddsmaker · 06-20-08, 10:40 AM

Man guys... I got burned last night on my late decision to go Cubs and not Rays.. I'm thinking White Sox today..

johnnymapalo · 06-20-08, 10:49 AM

Fvck I juss picked the cubs forgetting that this is an interstate rivalries. All stats and everything else is out the door in this one. I picked cubs at home not really paying much attention to the opponent..

oddsmaker · 06-20-08, 10:57 AM

Decided to go with the White Sox +1.5 -170. Layed 1200. That seems like the best bet.

strictlywinners · 06-20-08, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by oddsmaker

Decided to go with the White Sox +1.5 -170. Layed 1200. That seems like the best bet.

So not the best bet, the best bet is Whitesox +120, you just payed an extra 90 dollars on every 100 where only one specific outcome can make your bet a good bet. Whitesox win out right your bet turns out to be the wrong one cause you could of made more moneyline. Whitesox lose by more then one your bet was the wrong one because you had to risk more to get that one run. Lastly if Whitesox do lose by one and exactly one run great bet, but I just don't see how any person of sound mind could see the logic behind it.

JC2008 · 06-20-08, 11:22 AM

Ted Lilly is pitching. What makes you guys think the Cubs aren't going to be pissed off and looking to destroy? This is beginning to look like a fade play...

ryanXL977 · 06-20-08, 11:24 AM

chisox

lilly sucks

Wilforth · 06-20-08, 11:26 AM

One might just take the OVER in this one. The time of day and windiness favors the OVER. Who knows, we might even get 10 runs in the FF.

JBC77 · 06-20-08, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by JC2008

Ted Lilly is pitching. What makes you guys think the Cubs aren't going to be pissed off and looking to destroy? This is beginning to look like a fade play...

I took the Rays last night and they broke the Cubs off a little something in the 7th. I need maximum effort from the Cubbies here.....I can totally understand why guys would be playing the ChiSox as dogs in this spot though. Either way good luck guys.

fifawcs · 06-20-08, 11:38 AM

This game could really go either way. The Cubs have the better offense, but the Sox have the better pitching. The Cubs should have won yesterday's game. I don't understand how u guys can bet on a white sox team that doesn't have Konerko. He represents so much of their offense.

JBC77 · 06-20-08, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by tab

Be careful taking the cubs in this one. Remember they played a night game at Tampa last night while the white sox were playing a home game in Chicago. The White sox do not need to travel much and should be rested. The Cubs are going to be fatigued and will feel the jet lag. The cubs should have won yesterday if not for their bullpen. Marmol will probably not be available today. That is why the line is cubs -125. If the cubs had played a home game the day before, the cubs would be -160 favorites. Few white sox players have hit LIly hard in the past. The cubs nor any of its active players have never faced Danks. I feel like that Danks has the advantage.

CHICAGO (AP)—In the Second City, the buzz is all about first place.

The Cubs are on top. So are the White Sox. And starting Friday, they play each other six times in 10 days.

Somehow, maybe, this could be a preview of a Windy City World Series. Just imagine fans of the teams who don’t exactly love one another jamming the Red Line train that runs the eight miles between Wrigley Field and U.S. Cellular Field.

The last all-Chicago World Series saw the White Sox, known as the “Hitless Wonders,” beat the favored Cubs four games to two, after the Cubs went 116-36 during the regular season of 1906.

Two years later, the Cubs won the World Series and haven’t captured one since, a 100-year stretch of futility that White Sox fans are quick to point out when there’s a debate over who’s the best team in town.

The White Sox, meanwhile, ended an 88-year drought of their own by winning the World Series in 2005, an accomplishment that apparently didn’t impress some Cubs’ backers.

“It’s so different. You might as well build a border, a Great Wall of China on Madison (Ave.) because we are so different,” White Sox general manager Ken Williams said this week in an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times. “We might as well be in two different cities.

“The unfortunate thing for me is that it’s a shame that a certain segment of Chicago refused to enjoy a baseball championship brought to their city. The only thing I can say is `Happy anniversary.”’

When they meet Friday at Wrigley Field, it will mark the latest date both teams have been in first since Sept. 9, 2003. The Cubs won the NL Central that season before falling apart in the NLCS and losing to Florida after being five outs away from the World Series. The White Sox finished second to Minnesota in the AL Central.

And since interleague play started in 1997, it’s the first time the White Sox and Cubs will meet as first-place teams at the start of the series.

“It’s great for the fans, it really is. It’s great for the city,” Cubs manger Lou Piniella said of the series, which he managed in for the first time a year ago, winning five of six. “Both teams have played well this year, which adds to it. We look forward to the challenge of facing them.”

Even though the Cubs have the home-field advantage for the first three games — and they are 29-8 at Wrigley Field this season—they could be the wearier team Friday.

While the White Sox wrapped up a three-game sweep Thursday afternoon at home against the Pirates, the Cubs had to play a night game in St. Petersburg, Fla., before Friday’s 1:20 p.m. series opener at Wrigley Field.

“I’m going to talk to a few people in Tampa and make sure they delay that plane until 7 a.m,” White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. “You never have an advantage against the Cubs in Wrigley Field.”

In the past, Guillen has expressed his dislike for the Cubs’ home ballpark. He was especially unhappy one season when he was forced to park in a fast-food restaurant lot across the street from the stadium.

Guillen’s major complaints have been Wrigley’s small and cramped visitor’s clubhouse and a long twisting tunnel to get to the field. He was in a foul mood last year when his team played on the North Side, calling up a radio talk show from his car on the way to the park and unleashing a profanity-filled tirade after the host questioned why A.J. Pierzynski wasn’t in the starting lineup.

And emotions do surge during the series as players on both sides feel the rush of a playoff-like atmosphere where fans are roaring on every pitch.

“You learn the whole situation of how passionate the fans really are here in Chicago. Both teams are in first. It adds even more excitement,” White Sox third baseman Joe Crede said.

“Both teams could be in last place and there will still be brawls and all that stuff,” said White Sox outfielder Brian Anderson, who drew a suspension two years ago when a melee ensued after then-Cubs catcher Michael Barrett punched Pierzynski after a collision at the plate.

Both teams will be less than full strength.

The White Sox are without first baseman Paul Konerko, who has 14 career homers against the Cubs, but is on the disabled list.

Cubs star Alfonso Soriano, who homered in three straight games against the White Sox at U.S. Cellular last season, is also sidelined. And Cubs ace Carlos Zambrano—who was not scheduled to pitch this weekend—had to leave his start Wednesday night with a sore shoulder.

So far, the series is about as even as it gets. It’s tied 30-all and each team is 16-14 on its home field.

“When you see the enthusiasm in the street and the people in the stands you get pumped up,” Guillen said. “I don’t care what you’re doing or saying. You get into it.”

oddsmaker · 06-20-08, 11:57 AM

In the last six games the White Sox have scored 45 runs.

In the last six games for the Cubs they've scored 24 runs.

In the last 6 games the White Sox have won 4.

In the last 6 games for the Cubs they've won 2 games.

In the last 6 games the White Sox have out scored thier opponents by 23 runs. (games they've won out of the six)

In the last 6 games the Cubs have out scored thier opponents in thier two wins by 7.

I'm on the White Sox, and yes I went with the +1.5 for -170 for some insurance, during this in town rival game.

Hope these stats help. White Sox are hot right now. Cubs cold.

darrell74 · 06-20-08, 12:05 PM

I got 2 units on Jermaine Dye total bases, vs Derrick Lee. Dye got 3 hits and two bombs, yesterday. Yeah, the game is tough to call. Cubs on jet-lag, but Lilly was killer on his last start. CWS has some hot bats, as of late. Thats why I like this prop. Dye-105 vs. Lee -125, and I took the Dye.
Dye-105

thejrichshow85 · 06-20-08, 12:11 PM

taking white/soxs ...AL teams have been pounding the n.l

Deke101 · 06-20-08, 12:20 PM

I'm just looking for value and taking the White Sox reverse RL at -1.5 +180, and also the White Sox Over 4 -140 for a big play. Lilly isn't good, Cubs got swept, White Sox just swept, I'll take the hotter team right now to keep it going.

strictlywinners · 06-20-08, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by Deke101

I'm just looking for value and taking the White Sox reverse RL at -1.5 +180, and also the White Sox Over 4 -140 for a big play. Lilly isn't good, Cubs got swept, White Sox just swept, I'll take the hotter team right now to keep it going.

This is the smartest play yet. Very good play the only reason why I didn't take the RL is because I am afraid of back door cover in 9th inning. Also only getting 60 extra for giving up a run. Thats tough.

unit1884 · 06-20-08, 12:43 PM

Hey, what do you guys think about the "Score/ No Score in First Inning"

at 5dimes im getting:

Score -120
No Score -105

Any thoughts?

oddsmaker · 06-20-08, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by unit1884

Hey, what do you guys think about the "Score/ No Score in First Inning"

at 5dimes im getting:

Score -120
No Score -105

Any thoughts?

No Score.

unit1884 · 06-20-08, 12:50 PM

Hey Oddsmaker, thanks for the input. Thats what I was leaning towards, especially for a good price at -105.

Im going to lay 3 units on this one, wish me luck guys!

oddsmaker · 06-20-08, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by unit1884

Hey Oddsmaker, thanks for the input. Thats what I was leaning towards, especially for a good price at -105.

Im going to lay 3 units on this one, wish me luck guys!

GL, hope ya cash. You laying anything for the game or just the first innning?

unit1884 · 06-20-08, 12:59 PM

For the game I got SOX -115

strictlywinners · 06-20-08, 01:00 PM

I try not to mess around with the score no score in first inning but I see the whitesox scoring early and often.

unit1884 · 06-20-08, 01:05 PM

Well I hope that early start begins in the second

Plus its raining so that should help my cause...

ryanXL977 · 06-20-08, 01:06 PM

no soriano, no edmonds, no reed johnson

i like the chisox here. i wont be betting it though, but thats my lean