Opening game home favorite chase, 246-7 last year

[Twin Saviour]

Hi On3, I have a few quick questions. Yanks won yesterday so thats that series finished. St Louis went down so will there be another bet on them when they are playing at home next? A second bet out of a possible 3 so to speak? Also if the home team loses 3 times at restrictive odds, how much of a dent does that put in your bankroll? Will defo use a labby for this.

thanks a lot

[cappinthepigs]

This is stupid. Gonna cost y'all all money whenever a couple sweeps happen

[agharah1]

Its true, last year I saw the Yanks get swept at home by the Orioles. The Cubs were like 5-12 vs the Pirates and the year before last the Nats had 2 8-game winning streaks.

[BigFatPaulie]

I guess the explanation that I put up yesterday was INCORRECT for a number of different reasons. Could you clarify for me? I'm not sure what the 10-10 stuff means, and I would have thought that you wait until STL plays their next game to bet the $39 on them, and just bet the $10 on the 4 new ones today.

Thanks.

[Twin Saviour]

The 10-10 is the labby line......write it out like this 10-10-10-10. You take the first and last figures
( 10 + 10 ). This is ur first bet. If it goes down u add the 20 to the end of the line so it looks like this 10-10-10-10-20. Now ur next bet is 30 ( 10 + 20 ). If this wins u cross out the 10 and the 20 so the line now looks like 10-10-10. Keep going until the line is cleared then start again.

[BigFatPaulie]

So how do you ever get a "loss"? Don't you just keep adding numbers to the end forever?

[linedrivr]

Hi On3, I have a few quick questions. Yanks won yesterday so thats that series finished. St Louis went down so will there be another bet on them when they are playing at home next? A second bet out of a possible 3 so to speak? Also if the home team loses 3 times at restrictive odds, how much of a dent does that put in your bankroll? Will defo use a labby for this.

thanks a lot

St Louis doesn't play again until Saturday so I assume the labby moves on with the next team in line for the given day. Maybe St Louis "B" bet gets worked back into the labby tomorrow?

[linedrivr]

So how do you ever get a "loss"? Don't you just keep adding numbers to the end forever?

I was trying to figure that one out myself. The only conclusion I came up with is when a team loses it's third consecutive game, the series is a loss even though the labby moves on. I can see where the labby would reduce your loss on a series as long as you don't incur several series losses together.

will watch (not tail) and see how it plays out for the rest of the month.

[Hawk007]

Labby Line


x-10-29-x

10-10-10-29

10-10-10-10

Play to win 39 on two games, and play to win 20 on the other two.[/QUOTE]

If this is going to be accurate, you need to provide the games you are wagering the 39 on, as well as the games you are wagering 20.

[Twin Saviour]

Yeah the loss would be after the fav loses its 3rd game in a specified series. Then the start of a new series would be your next labby bet. As previous posts have noted, there are always series sweeps but as long as they are spaced out, the labby reduces the liability over the long run. Always advisable to start with small stakes as a poor run can increase the bet amounts quickly

[BigFatPaulie]

Sorry for all the questions, but this doesn't make sense to me.

The first game is always -140 or more, so in game 1 you're betting at least 14 to win 10. If you lose, even being ultra conservative and saying the next two games are even money, you're betting $24 in game 2 ($14 previous loss plust $10 target gain), and $48 in game 3 ($24 game 2 loss, $14 game 1 loss, and $10 target gain), which is an $86 loss (or 8.6 units).

If you won 1 unit on each of the 231 wins and lost 8.6 units on each of the 10 losses, that's +145 units.


On the other end of the spectrum, if each of the 3 games is -200, you'd bet $20 in game 1 to win $10, $60 in game 2 to win $30, and $180 in game 3 to win $90. So if you lose all 3, you lost $260 (or 26 units).

If you won 1 unit on each of the 231 wins and lost 26 units on each of the 10 losses, that's -29 units.

Unless the teams are dogs in games 2 and 3, I don't think it's mathematically possible to have that record with this system and be +175 units.

Can you tell me what I'm missing here?

Because technically with the labby line, we dont take losses until the season is over.

With $20 units, my final tally was +$3500

I strongly recommend using a labby line,. I understand that the lines can get scary sometimes, but the system works.

[BigFatPaulie]

Wait, I thnk I just figured it out. It's different from Martingale in that you're not always winning 1 unit per sequence, right?

Tell me if the following is correct based on lines of -140 in the first game and -200 in the rest:

Start10-10-10-10
Lose game 1 ($14 to win $10) 10-10-10-10-24
Lose game 2 ($48 to win $24) 10-10-10-10-24-34
Win Game 3 ($144 to win $72) x-10-10-10-24-x
Win game 4 ($68 to win $34) x-x-10-10-x-x
Win game 5 ($20 to win $10)

Start new line at 10-10-10-10

Record 3-0, +5.4 units. Is that right? So you win more than 1 unit per win. I believe that was what I didn't understand previously. I needed an example to see that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Lazy Boy]

Sorry for all the questions, but this doesn't make sense to me.

The first game is always -140 or more, so in game 1 you're betting at least 14 to win 10. If you lose, even being ultra conservative and saying the next two games are even money, you're betting $24 in game 2 ($14 previous loss plust $10 target gain), and $48 in game 3 ($24 game 2 loss, $14 game 1 loss, and $10 target gain), which is an $86 loss (or 8.6 units).

If you won 1 unit on each of the 231 wins and lost 8.6 units on each of the 10 losses, that's +145 units.


On the other end of the spectrum, if each of the 3 games is -200, you'd bet $20 in game 1 to win $10, $60 in game 2 to win $30, and $180 in game 3 to win $90. So if you lose all 3, you lost $260 (or 26 units).

If you won 1 unit on each of the 231 wins and lost 26 units on each of the 10 losses, that's -29 units.

Unless the teams are dogs in games 2 and 3, I don't think it's mathematically possible to have that record with this system and be +175 units.

Can you tell me what I'm missing here?

Big Fat Paulie, in your post you are assuming that a team is -200 in all 3 games. Who is to say in game 2 and 3 a team may not be a dog. All on3 is saying that at the end of the year he was +3500. At $20 per unit and 3500 profit at the end of the year he is up 175 units if you do the math.

[Lazy Boy]

Wait, I thnk I just figured it out. It's different from Martingale in that you're not always winning 1 unit per sequence, right?

Tell me if the following is correct based on lines of -140 in the first game and -200 in the rest:

Start10-10-10-10
Lose game 1 ($14 to win $10) 10-10-10-10-24
Lose game 2 ($48 to win $24) 10-10-10-10-24-34
Win Game 3 ($144 to win $72) x-10-10-10-24-x
Win game 4 ($68 to win $34) x-x-10-10-x-x
Win game 5 ($20 to win $10)

Start new line at 10-10-10-10

Record 3-0, +5.4 units. Is that right? So you win more than 1 unit per win. I believe that was what I didn't understand previously. I needed an example to see that. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Check this out. A good explanation for you.

http://www.guide-to-baseball-betting.com/labouchere.html

[BigFatPaulie]

Thanks for the link. As far as your first response, look at my post again. I bracketed the results by using a high and low estimate (high range was the -200 and low was even money). I can guarantee that ON AVERAGE you're not going to be getting positive odds on games 2 and 3, so the answer is likely in the middle of my two estimates, which was exactly my point. IF you win 1 unit per win, it's mathematically impossible ot have that record and be +175 units. Assuming my follow-up was correct that the win = 1unit assumption was incorrect, that's our answer.

Also, with regard to your comment that "All on3 is saying that at the end of the year he was +3500. At $20 per unit and 3500 profit at the end of the year he is up 175 units if you do the math." it's kind of silly to take anything that someone says at face vaule on one of these message boards. If I said "I'm 0-10 on my bets for +1million units!" I hope you'd question that. So when I ran the numbers and it didn't make sense, i wanted to check into it.

[linedrivr]

Labby Line


x-10-29-x

10-10-10-29

10-10-10-10

Play to win 39 on two games, and play to win 20 on the other two.

If this is going to be accurate, you need to provide the games you are wagering the 39 on, as well as the games you are wagering 20.[/QUOTE]

x-10-29-x = 39

10-10-10-29 = 59

10-10-10-10 = 20

if there are 4 games on tap for today, why wouldn't you add them up and divide by 4 to get even action on the 4 games?

39 + 39 + 20 + 20 = 118 / 4 = 29.5 (30)

adjusted labby to even out action on todays 4 games:
x - 15 - 15 - x
15 - 15 - 15 - 15
15 - 9 - 9 - 15

[Hawk007]

Unless on3 is going to post what teams and what amount wagered, I see no point in this thread.

[BigFatPaulie]

How come the Cubs aren't on the list?

[on3]

Cubs were off the board last night when I did my update, but Cubs are a play.

We have 5 games to play and our labby line shows:

x-10-29-x
10-10-10-29
10-10-10-10

Total of 138, I'm going to split my games evenly and play them all to win 28 a piece.

The thing with a labby line is, it is at your own discretion how much you want to chop and rearrange your lines.

Hope this helps.

[BigFatPaulie]

Why does the 29 show up twice? Thanks.

[on3]

Why does the 29 show up twice? Thanks.

Stl lost the A bet, loss of 38. Divide by two and add to the end of A and B line.

[hagball52]

Just checking in.

[oklahoma]

interesting system, but this thread is gonna get clogged with labby questions. google labby lines and read some of the posts on3 has in this thread to get a feel of how to play it. bol on your plays.

[roguewager]

Isn't this therizz's system: covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=101020098

[southpaw74]

Interesting thread. For those of us new to this concept and for simplicity reasons why aren't the exact games and amounts posted. This will get rediculous unless actual games and amounts are posted daily. Thanks and good luck this season.

[DustyDiamond]

Looks good, I'll be watching this one!!

[eroger92]

what about cubs-170?

[MexicanStallion]

The easiest way to follow would be to post $ amounts. Then everybody can see a clear picture of it for those who don't understand. Just a suggestion.

[Wallco99]

I have a small correction, the system was 231-10 last year, and was +175 units.

The system is as follows:

Play on teams that open at -145 or higher in the first game of a three or more game homestand.

Chase for 3 games only

Run on an aggressive 3 line labby

Last year, the over/under filter went 89-2. The filter is only playing games that have a game 1 o/u of 9 or more. I will be posting the full system and mention the o/u filter as well.

The system takes quite a bit of work to update every day, so points are appreciated.

On line of greater than -275, I would recommend playing the -1 or -1.5 line. I dont have the exact record on the RL plays, but I do remember it not being much of a problem for the heavily favored teams.

Lets make some money!

You must have a lot of filters for this, because I backtested it and the losses were very large, and many more than 10. Please describe exactly how it works, a lot is being left out.

[ColdBeerHere]

just curious....is there a site somewhere that lists all the mlb schedules so you can see all the series at once rather than clicking on each club's website to figure out when series start ? thanks

[pimike]

Good luck. Reward not worth the risk. Cardinals may cost you. Cubs may cost you.

[atari5200]

thanks for the thread. You said ON3, that you would explain the over under 9 filter. Can you please inform us of this?

[on3]

System record 3-0-0

Units won +3.8

4/2

#2 -- san diego @ STL -148 (B)
#3 -- houston @ PHI -240 (B)
#4 -- arizona @ COL -155 (B)
#7 -- pittsburgh @ CHC -185 (B)
*pending Tampa Bay

Game 1 win = 3
Game 2 win = 0
Game 3 win = 0

Labby Line

x-x-x-x
35-42-39-35
14-14-42-39

there are 4 games (+1 pending) and 8 figures on our labby line, total of 260. i will be playing each game to win 52. so our line will look like:

26-x-x-26
26-26-26-26
26-26-26-26

at the end of a 3 game series, i will total the units won/lost. until then, i will post the units (+) balance.

[lawalahmed]

How did you arrive @ 52.......

[shinnman]