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hagball52SBR MVP
- 09-22-10
- 3053
#4691Comment -
MARCUSSBR Sharp
- 06-19-09
- 358
#4692I'm gonna be honest, they have a warning that their plays cannot be posted. I want to get the most out of this free trial to evaluate if I want to get them for NBA season. So i am not posting them...Sorry as they look to be a golden goose right now. Like I said before jury is still out on themBLA..BLA..BLA..MORE BS..from tha'tout!!
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MARCUSSBR Sharp
- 06-19-09
- 358
#4693thanks hb..4 all the stuff u do!
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alex81SBR Wise Guy
- 07-18-09
- 658
#4694These 4 D bet losses in a span of less than a week compeltely emptied my bankroll... I only had like $500 so it's hard to argue that poor money management led to this result. If I had a $5K bankroll than obviously money management would have obviously been a critical factor, but I'd still be down at least 50%.All this to say that given the system's results after 2 months of its first official season of implementation we can argue that it needs to be modified. Theoretically, if this system is expected to have a loss for every 20 - 25 wins, in essence losing 4-5% of every series played, and currently sits at 74-6 (losing 7.5% for every series plays) the backtested results from previous seasons indicates that we should be expecting a very profitable finish from hereon in. This is based on the law of averages. However, I personally would much rather monitor its progress rather than risking more funds going forward this as this is the first season it is actually being tested live. I guess the purpose of my post is not to go out and "bash" this system but rather to provide some constructive criticism to hopefully improve it. Keep in mind if the system wins 98% of the series from hereon in I will look like a complete idiot. My point is that as of right now this system is clearly not a marketable product.Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#4695These 4 D bet losses in a span of less than a week compeltely emptied my bankroll... I only had like $500 so it's hard to argue that poor money management led to this result. If I had a $5K bankroll than obviously money management would have obviously been a critical factor, but I'd still be down at least 50%.All this to say that given the system's results after 2 months of its first official season of implementation we can argue that it needs to be modified. Theoretically, if this system is expected to have a loss for every 20 - 25 wins, in essence losing 4-5% of every series played, and currently sits at 74-6 (losing 7.5% for every series plays) the backtested results from previous seasons indicates that we should be expecting a very profitable finish from hereon in. This is based on the law of averages. However, I personally would much rather monitor its progress rather than risking more funds going forward this as this is the first season it is actually being tested live. I guess the purpose of my post is not to go out and "bash" this system but rather to provide some constructive criticism to hopefully improve it. Keep in mind if the system wins 98% of the series from hereon in I will look like a complete idiot. My point is that as of right now this system is clearly not a marketable product.Comment -
DustyDiamondSBR Wise Guy
- 12-19-09
- 772
#4696How are people using labby for Wallco's system?Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#4697I have been using a 2 line labby playing games 1 and 3 on the first line and 2 and 4 on the next line. Has worked very well thus far as I only started playing the system right in time to take 4 D losses (no profit to cushion the blow) yet I still have over 50% bankroll.Comment -
bauerranchSBR Wise Guy
- 08-01-10
- 611
#4698These 4 D bet losses in a span of less than a week compeltely emptied my bankroll... I only had like $500 so it's hard to argue that poor money management led to this result. If I had a $5K bankroll than obviously money management would have obviously been a critical factor, but I'd still be down at least 50%.All this to say that given the system's results after 2 months of its first official season of implementation we can argue that it needs to be modified. Theoretically, if this system is expected to have a loss for every 20 - 25 wins, in essence losing 4-5% of every series played, and currently sits at 74-6 (losing 7.5% for every series plays) the backtested results from previous seasons indicates that we should be expecting a very profitable finish from hereon in. This is based on the law of averages. However, I personally would much rather monitor its progress rather than risking more funds going forward this as this is the first season it is actually being tested live. I guess the purpose of my post is not to go out and "bash" this system but rather to provide some constructive criticism to hopefully improve it. Keep in mind if the system wins 98% of the series from hereon in I will look like a complete idiot. My point is that as of right now this system is clearly not a marketable product.Comment -
G's pksRestricted User
- 01-01-09
- 22251
#4699
Ah no...a 4 game chase system with 6 losses before the break...I think not... this would not be acceptable even with a 3 game chase... but I would think he works his way through the rut...(it is a 4 game chase which means 4 losses in a row...not 3)...
For those that lost it all a little to late...but for those with a big enough bankroll to last out all the losses... you might catch a ride in the right direction now i hope so for your case...gl guys...Comment -
dantannerSBR Hustler
- 01-21-11
- 89
#4700
Plays dogs on the money line for a series. +150 at home or +170 on the road, provided the team is at least .400 where they are playing. Also must be starting a new 3 game series with the opponent.
You can see it here http://www.diysportsbetting.com/MLB. It's cheap but seems to work. Don't ask me to violate the copyright.
Another pick has come up for June 3. It is a little on the low side for the money line, but I like the play so I bet it.
Cubs +158 (available at Bodog)
If either of the games lose, add 10% to the bet and bet the second game if the money line stays at +150 or better. If the odds drop below +150 pick up the betting series in a different team series.
I would post regular picks but I just don't have the time.Comment -
G's pksRestricted User
- 01-01-09
- 22251
#4701Plays dogs on the money line for a series. +150 at home or +170 on the road, provided the team is at least .400 where they are playing. Also must be starting a new 3 game series with the opponent.
You can see it here http://www.diysportsbetting.com/MLB. It's cheap but seems to work. Don't ask me to violate the copyright.
Another pick has come up for June 3. It is a little on the low side for the money line, but I like the play so I bet it.
Cubs +158 (available at Bodog)
If either of the games lose, add 10% to the bet and bet the second game if the money line stays at +150 or better. If the odds drop below +150 pick up the betting series in a different team series.
I would post regular picks but I just don't have the time.Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#4703Ah no...a 4 game chase system with 6 losses before the break...I think not... this would not be acceptable even with a 3 game chase... but I would think he works his way through the rut...(it is a 4 game chase which means 4 losses in a row...not 3)...
For those that lost it all a little to late...but for those with a big enough bankroll to last out all the losses... you might catch a ride in the right direction now i hope so for your case...gl guys...Comment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#4704You need a 100k bankroll, and just bet JM.Comment -
goodoneSBR Hustler
- 05-15-11
- 60
#4705Wallco: Don't let all the crap in this thread get to you man, the system is doing just fine, we're still up units. So please keep on posting your systemplays. And yes, everybody did know that there would be losses. Remember I was even asking you if there were consecutive series losses? This was why I wanted to know, to be prepared that it COULD happen. And the people only interested in the long run will come out with profit as they pay attention on 2 things:
1. Consistent system (like Wallco's system)
2. GOODDDDDD MONEY-MANAGEMENT
So again, Wallco, keep on posting your plays, they're good. For the people who are saying that the system is a failure, ask yourself this: is the season over? Did anybody say that the system was done for the season? I guess not, so don't judge a system before the season is over. Let's check what the system has done in September.Comment -
MARCUSSBR Sharp
- 06-19-09
- 358
#4706BLA BLA BLA..we all checked ur post pisspiss..u will share..u won't share..u can't share?..u told them u were pisspiss?..they would know it was u?..go fuk yourself..tout..we're not all stupid here..anyone and all with 1/2 a brain smelled shit on u from day one!
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MARCUSSBR Sharp
- 06-19-09
- 358
#4707Wallco: Don't let all the crap in this thread get to you man, the system is doing just fine, we're still up units. So please keep on posting your systemplays. And yes, everybody did know that there would be losses. Remember I was even asking you if there were consecutive series losses? This was why I wanted to know, to be prepared that it COULD happen. And the people only interested in the long run will come out with profit as they pay attention on 2 things:
1. Consistent system (like Wallco's system)
2. GOODDDDDD MONEY-MANAGEMENT
So again, Wallco, keep on posting your plays, they're good. For the people who are saying that the system is a failure, ask yourself this: is the season over? Did anybody say that the system was done for the season? I guess not, so don't judge a system before the season is over. Let's check what the system has done in September.BRAVO..Wallco posted the 2006 season..u pussys whine and cry over a couple bad weeks?..if he GAVE U 90% WINNER$..u'all would bitch and whine about the one loss..it's never enough for the greedy parasites.
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honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4708Plays dogs on the money line for a series. +150 at home or +170 on the road, provided the team is at least .400 where they are playing. Also must be starting a new 3 game series with the opponent.
You can see it here http://www.diysportsbetting.com/MLB. It's cheap but seems to work. Don't ask me to violate the copyright.
Another pick has come up for June 3. It is a little on the low side for the money line, but I like the play so I bet it.
Cubs +158 (available at Bodog)
If either of the games lose, add 10% to the bet and bet the second game if the money line stays at +150 or better. If the odds drop below +150 pick up the betting series in a different team series.
I would post regular picks but I just don't have the time.Comment -
WilbaSBR Wise Guy
- 10-29-10
- 702
#4709
Well done Coylo for being one of the few in the thread that are grown up not to blame their losses on someone else (ie at this point in time Wallco)
People that play other's systems and lose on them, then post crap like "I lost my whole roll and it's your fault".. News flash - YOU were the one that made the play. YOU were the one that chose to press the 'submit wager' button. Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. If you feel obliged to make a play just because it is posted, then have the hide to tell him he is the greatest thing since sliced bread when the bets win, then when they lose abuse him because the pick lost - then YOU ARE A DEGENERATE GAMBLER.
If it is such a shit system (as all you losers keep saying it is) then why play it in the first place? FFS Wallco has a system that he offered to post, says countless times there WILL BE LOSSES over and over again (although providing long term profit gains), and all you guys are up in arms when there is a few system losses. IF A FEW SYSTEM LOSSES WIPE OUT YOUR ROLL YOU ARE BETTING TOO MUCH ON EACH SERIES. WHY WOULD YOU RISK YOUR WHOLE ROLL ON A COUPLE OF SERIES OF A "SHIT" SYSTEM??? and when you do this it is Wallco's fault!?
Grow up and act like a man all of you whiners. If you make a play and it loses, IT'S ON YOU.
Congrats Wallco for not biting when all these chumps keep crying coz they lost their lunch money. Keep up with posting the plays and, based on last 5 years, when the system shows good profit at years end that is all that will matter.
ps GG or whatever his name is that keeps posting the holier than thou comments in the bold - you are a joke. Your own system is down a few units same as Wallcos and you come in here like you are the Messiah. Guess what man - it is very easy to make predictions about what the good bet was AFTER THE GAME IS OVER! If you were so sure about Cubs/Padres/Marlins being bad bets, why did you not say that BEFORE THE GAME! A few days ago you came in after the Marlins win (Dbacks loss) and said Wallco was an idiot for playing against the Dbacks, having won 16/18. The next game the Dbacks lost and Marlins won. Didnt see you post about that.
This is a purely objective post. I have never being in here saying how Wallco is the best or anything like that. Just makes me sick to see so many pathetic losers try to blame their losses instead of taking responsibility. (this is not directed at people like Teecee and those guys. You all know the types that Im talking about)Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#4710Well said WilbaComment -
BooToRestricted User
- 05-23-11
- 28
#4711
Guy wants to take advantage of the service who have FREE trial. Why don't you take it and see it for yourself? You need a servant? F*cking free birds. A*s crawlers!!!Comment -
honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4712wallco is only allowed to post plays because he is selling the rights to his system. There for he is not allowed to tell people what the system is. This has already been discussed in this forum.
Give it a break please.
If you don't like his system then dont bet it. You don't need to be the one convincing other people not to make money with his system. Were down like 17 units at the moment, which could easily be made up this week. Over the past like 6 years the system is up like 500 units.
Wallco is a man of his word... I know he spent a lot of time back testing this system towards the end of the basketball season. I assure you he is not just pulling random plays out of a hat.
It probably has something to do with ML and RL.
RL stat for the favorite is that they win by 2 or more runs 70% of the time and only by 1 run 30% of the time.
Just saying thats probably a stat that wallco put into his system, this allows small losses if you split your unit size between the two.
Based on this stat you should be wagering more on Run line -1.5 then ML i believe.
I like you- so I'm not insulting you but I hate when people talk about breaking the law by posting here. If wallco doesn't post his rules then fine- that's his decision. I have no problem. I have said he should charge everyone here a fee and sell the system. Even though it will get out he could still make a grand or two off these chumps. But he posts the plays. Fine. All hodini is saying is what if wallco gets pregnant and goes into labor the night before 4 d bets. No one here knows the system so doesn't know the plays. Anyone chasing will have no idea what to do next and will lose. That is a possibility. What he does is his business but hoodini is just putting out there a VALID warning. And as for the guy he "sold" the rights to. This isn't London High Finance- it's the internet. If that guy has wallco's system wallco will be lucky to see a dime. And there's NOTHING he can do about that. GL on all your bets.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4713I respect that Honeyeater. I'm not going to argue my opinion any further on why or why not wallco should post his rules. There are cons and pros to both sides. I do not know if he has a contract written up neither does anyone on this thread. Just let wallco do wallco and we all make money in the long hall.
Ok for everyone else or any one else who has a spread sheet of wallco's last 3 series can you please post the results as well as odds. I want to try and see what his system would look like using a labby.
I just started following his system the other day more seriously and seperate from other systems. Before I was running multiple labby lines with Crusher, wallco, and JM combined, so i am not sure how much or how much wallco is actually up or down using the labby.
I personally would be doing 6 lines, starting with 1 # per ilne and averaging and balancing them out. So if anyone can post the results of wins / losses as well as the odds ill post the results of what the labby would look like day to day.
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4714Wilba I dont think, all though i haven't read all his post, but i dont think "G's Pks" is being rude. He made some fine points about filters, but that is his own opinion. His systems usually make money, so i would respect his advice to a certain extent. I think he can add his own filters to modify "wallco's system" just as all of us could. We are all following pretty blindly with out doing our own research. I kinda like adding a filter to take out bottom 5 home teams or whatever. However, i do not know how many games that would take away from the system, so im just going to continue to use the labby and play it as it is.
Also I miss your stats Wilba! Loved following your advice for the NBA thread and wish you would post on here more often. What systems are you following for this MLB season?
I have wallco, crusher, JM, and my own under system (which i am trying out this month) back test on it looks good.
Using labby for all of these.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#4715If someone has all of wallco's picks with the odds i would greatly appreciate that even more then just his last few series. Bascally the labby recovers all losses eventually, so i just want to see what our biggest bet would actually be using my labby method.
THanks in advance... Just post a spread sheet or something.
Brite side about losing is that you learn new stuff from guys like meComment -
h00diniRestricted User
- 09-17-09
- 659
#4716***THE HOODINI SYSTEM***
here's a system that ive been playing for the past 2 years. there wont be too many plays but it has never lost and you can add some more action to your daily bets. i have made some good money playing this. ill share it with you guys only because i feel i need to give something back.
here goes....................everyday from from day 1 of baseball season you check the standings, there are 6 divisions. all you look at is the first place team, nothing else. that team may change and most likely will during the season but all you care about is that first place team. whenever you see that team has lost 3 games straight, take on a 3 game chase. if that team is ever a dog, you take the run line and of course M/L when its a favorite.
one team that falls into this system, which we'll call "THE HOODINI SYSTEM" is philly tomorrow. first place team in the national east has lost 3 straight. play them on a 3 game chase.
A. Philly vs. pitts 06/04
B. philly vs. pitts 06/05
C. Philly vs. dodgers 06/06
i play 10% of my bankroll based on the C bet.
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thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#4717***THE HOODINI SYSTEM***
here's a system that ive been playing for the past 2 years. there wont be too many plays but it has never lost and you can add some more action to your daily bets. i have made some good money playing this. ill share it with you guys only because i feel i need to give something back.
here goes....................everyday from from day 1 of baseball season you check the standings, there are 6 divisions. all you look at is the first place team, nothing else. that team may change and most likely will during the season but all you care about is that first place team. whenever you see that team has lost 3 games straight, take on a 3 game chase. if that team is ever a dog, you take the run line and of course M/L when its a favorite.
one team that falls into this system, which we'll call "THE HOODINI SYSTEM" is philly tomorrow. first place team in the national east has lost 3 straight. play them on a 3 game chase.
A. Philly vs. pitts 06/04
B. philly vs. pitts 06/05
C. Philly vs. dodgers 06/06
i play 10% of my bankroll based on the C bet.
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dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#4718good stuff hoodini.. im sure someting like this would be almost impossible to backtest.. but have you ever tried? any idea what the record over the past two years is (basically, how many wins)?Comment -
ok15533SBR High Roller
- 12-14-09
- 220
#4719MIN was an unofficial (A) bet yesterday. Did not qualify because of rpi rating. They won. Now it converts to a V3 system play. You switch teams and wager on Kansas City. If you did not purchase JM's V3 system you will not get an email. All system rules are posted on page 1 in this thread. Hope this helps.
P.S. Yesterday someone did mention a bet on Kansas City but they called it a pre-emptive V3 bet. That means jumping the gun and going early on a play because you think it's going to win.Comment -
Andy3568SBR Wise Guy
- 01-17-10
- 615
#4720I haven't posted in awhile, but I have been following lately.
I have not been betting Wallco's plays because (1) my bankroll is too small and even if I bet $5 (A) bets, I would be wiped out if 2011 were a repeat of 2006 and, (2) since I don't know the criteria for the plays, I cannot back test the system myself. I have no reason not to trust Wallco's back testing. I just like to verify things for myself before risking my own money.
But here are a few things to think about:
(1) Nothing that has happened so far in this system should be a surprise to anyone. Wallco said there would be losses, and a lot of them. Even if he said nothing about that, common sense would tell you that a system that picks dogs on the money line or favorites on the -1.5 run line will results in a lot of losses. The strength of the system is in the ability to come back from the losses when you win.
(2) No system, including JM, can be judged by a third of a season. Wouldn't it be better to wait 'til the end of the season to make a judgement?
(3) I have stated that I am not ready to bet on this system this season. If the system ends up +200 units and I miss out, it is all on me. Same if the system loses 200 units. The point is that Wallco posted his picks, but you are the one who decided to play them. I don't like seeing anyone lose their entire bankroll, but if you did, it was because you decided to take a risk, not because someone posted some picks on the Internet. Take some responsibility for your own actions.
I know others have posted it, but it cannot be repeated too much: If you can't take losses, take your money and buy a CD.Comment -
oklahomaSBR Wise Guy
- 11-22-10
- 602
#4721boston was pretty worrying giving up 4 in the first but they squeaked by. 4-6 tonightComment -
1gamerSBR Wise Guy
- 02-09-11
- 723
#4722***THE HOODINI SYSTEM*** here's a system that ive been playing for the past 2 years. there wont be too many plays but it has never lost and you can add some more action to your daily bets. i have made some good money playing this. ill share it with you guys only because i feel i need to give something back. here goes....................everyday from from day 1 of baseball season you check the standings, there are 6 divisions. all you look at is the first place team, nothing else. that team may change and most likely will during the season but all you care about is that first place team. whenever you see that team has lost 3 games straight, take on a 3 game chase. if that team is ever a dog, you take the run line and of course M/L when its a favorite. one team that falls into this system, which we'll call "THE HOODINI SYSTEM" is philly tomorrow. first place team in the national east has lost 3 straight. play them on a 3 game chase. A. Philly vs. pitts 06/04 B. philly vs. pitts 06/05 C. Philly vs. dodgers 06/06 i play 10% of my bankroll based on the C bet.Thanks for Sharing. Awesome day with Plu$$$.
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honeyeaterRestricted User
- 01-20-11
- 253
#4723***THE HOODINI SYSTEM***
here's a system that ive been playing for the past 2 years. there wont be too many plays but it has never lost and you can add some more action to your daily bets. i have made some good money playing this. ill share it with you guys only because i feel i need to give something back.
here goes....................everyday from from day 1 of baseball season you check the standings, there are 6 divisions. all you look at is the first place team, nothing else. that team may change and most likely will during the season but all you care about is that first place team. whenever you see that team has lost 3 games straight, take on a 3 game chase. if that team is ever a dog, you take the run line and of course M/L when its a favorite.
one team that falls into this system, which we'll call "THE HOODINI SYSTEM" is philly tomorrow. first place team in the national east has lost 3 straight. play them on a 3 game chase.
A. Philly vs. pitts 06/04
B. philly vs. pitts 06/05
C. Philly vs. dodgers 06/06
i play 10% of my bankroll based on the C bet.
So right now since ARZ and SF are tied there are 7 div leaders yes? AND- just thinking out loud- I wonder if it works in reverse. The team in last place wins 3 in a row they will lose one of the next 3- I'd think the payout on that would be bad though.Comment -
schenker88SBR MVP
- 01-13-10
- 1877
#4724hopefully we have winning days also sir wallcoComment -
G's pksRestricted User
- 01-01-09
- 22251
#4725COYLO: "i played risky and lost the lot on padres but that's my fault no one else's"
Well done Coylo for being one of the few in the thread that are grown up not to blame their losses on someone else (ie at this point in time Wallco)
People that play other's systems and lose on them, then post crap like "I lost my whole roll and it's your fault".. News flash - YOU were the one that made the play. YOU were the one that chose to press the 'submit wager' button. Grow up and take some responsibility for your actions. If you feel obliged to make a play just because it is posted, then have the hide to tell him he is the greatest thing since sliced bread when the bets win, then when they lose abuse him because the pick lost - then YOU ARE A DEGENERATE GAMBLER.
If it is such a shit system (as all you losers keep saying it is) then why play it in the first place? FFS Wallco has a system that he offered to post, says countless times there WILL BE LOSSES over and over again (although providing long term profit gains), and all you guys are up in arms when there is a few system losses. IF A FEW SYSTEM LOSSES WIPE OUT YOUR ROLL YOU ARE BETTING TOO MUCH ON EACH SERIES. WHY WOULD YOU RISK YOUR WHOLE ROLL ON A COUPLE OF SERIES OF A "SHIT" SYSTEM??? and when you do this it is Wallco's fault!?
Grow up and act like a man all of you whiners. If you make a play and it loses, IT'S ON YOU.
Congrats Wallco for not biting when all these chumps keep crying coz they lost their lunch money. Keep up with posting the plays and, based on last 5 years, when the system shows good profit at years end that is all that will matter.
ps GG or whatever his name is that keeps posting the holier than thou comments in the bold - you are a joke. Your own system is down a few units same as Wallcos and you come in here like you are the Messiah. Guess what man - it is very easy to make predictions about what the good bet was AFTER THE GAME IS OVER! If you were so sure about Cubs/Padres/Marlins being bad bets, why did you not say that BEFORE THE GAME! A few days ago you came in after the Marlins win (Dbacks loss) and said Wallco was an idiot for playing against the Dbacks, having won 16/18. The next game the Dbacks lost and Marlins won. Didnt see you post about that.
This is a purely objective post. I have never being in here saying how Wallco is the best or anything like that. Just makes me sick to see so many pathetic losers try to blame their losses instead of taking responsibility. (this is not directed at people like Teecee and those guys. You all know the types that Im talking about)Comment
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