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  • oklahoma
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-22-10
    • 602

    #1436
    Originally posted by Wallco99
    No fault of mine. You have a lousy book.
    this, never heard of a book trying to limit action from their customers.
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    • lolisaiahlol
      SBR Rookie
      • 11-23-08
      • 43

      #1437
      Originally posted by Wallco99
      No fault of mine. You have a lousy book.
      Don't worry mr. wallco, I'm not saying it's your fault. It just sucks how I missed that one play. Now I need to wait longer to get the money I lost.
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      • soldier1047
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-26-10
        • 332

        #1438
        To help "people on the go" and let Wallco focus on his system, I am tweeting his officials plays.

        Twitter username-soldier1047
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        • Lucylee
          SBR Rookie
          • 04-08-11
          • 31

          #1439
          Way to step up!!! I'm sure many will appreciate it.
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          • nick86
            Restricted User
            • 04-27-11
            • 632

            #1440
            What is the wallco system? There should be a separate thread about it.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #1441
              Originally posted by nick86
              What is the wallco system? There should be a separate thread about it.
              Stevex, I believe this is your department!
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              • teecee
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-09
                • 6298

                #1442
                Originally posted by Kitar
                Thanks Wallco,

                Really appreciate the level of betting IQ your posts share with everyone. Very educational.

                I've definitely enjoyed following your work and have been avoiding asking any questions because you already spend so much time on here and put up with so many silly questions and unfair comments....

                So this request is just that, a minor request. If your system even works this way, or you would be so inclined to add a bit of extra info, would it be possible to list whether or not a series is a "team based" bet, or whether it is fav/dog dependent?

                Basically trying to get my arms wrapped-around series that will always be for 1 team as opposed to series that could flip to the other team. Would help reduce the amount of forum checking I do the morning after an A or B loss...

                I might totally misunderstand the system and whether or not a team-based bet remains a team for the entire series or if it's just 1 game. But I thought I would ask. Thank you again for all you do and I would love to help in anyway I can. If you ever need any help.

                good question, here.
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                • teecee
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-18-09
                  • 6298

                  #1443
                  so, i guess we have detroit on the -1.5 for today? or, do we wait for clev. to begin a new series?
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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #1444
                    Originally posted by Kitar
                    Thanks Wallco,

                    Really appreciate the level of betting IQ your posts share with everyone. Very educational.

                    I've definitely enjoyed following your work and have been avoiding asking any questions because you already spend so much time on here and put up with so many silly questions and unfair comments....

                    So this request is just that, a minor request. If your system even works this way, or you would be so inclined to add a bit of extra info, would it be possible to list whether or not a series is a "team based" bet, or whether it is fav/dog dependent?

                    Basically trying to get my arms wrapped-around series that will always be for 1 team as opposed to series that could flip to the other team. Would help reduce the amount of forum checking I do the morning after an A or B loss...

                    I might totally misunderstand the system and whether or not a team-based bet remains a team for the entire series or if it's just 1 game. But I thought I would ask. Thank you again for all you do and I would love to help in anyway I can. If you ever need any help.
                    My posts are already too worded for my liking, now I've needed to add time and EDT per other request. The team we are playing is Highlighted in blue, and will have the word "official" next to the game. Do not place any wager until the word "official" appears next to the game. No one has to check the thread 100 times a day. With the exception of one person on here, all of us can place our bets up til the first pitch, or a few minutes before. Baseball lines move up and down at a slower pace, all day long. There is no "right" time to get in, just a "lucky" time. They will move down two points, then you place your bets, and lo and behold, the line went back up three, a half hour later, down two again. The way this system is, a couple points here and there won't matter. Some days you will have a better line than the ones in my standings post, and other days slightly lower. If frequent checking is a problem, then check once in the morning, and once a half an hour before games. They are usually all up by then, unless one game is still undecided, or I am involved in answering a negative post and overwriting my posted plays, which will never happen again, so it would have to be the first choice. Hell, you may even get lucky and all picks will be official in the morning. I put a lot of time into this, if simply clicking on here to get free plays is too much work, then I am sorry about that. Maybe somebody on here has a good friend at ESPN, and could call them to get my plays to scroll across the bottom of their screen with all the rest of the scores, wouldn't that be EASY!
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #1445
                      Wallco MLB PLU$$$
                      2011 System to date: 38-0
                      System profit/loss: +53.42 units (finished series)
                      Since my first post: +33.15 units (23-0) (fin. series)
                      Current open series: 1 (-7.00 units)

                      (5/1/11) Kansas City (M/L) (C) – Win
                      (5/1/11) Kansas City (-1½) (C) – Win
                      (5/1/11) Cleveland (-1½) (C) – Loss

                      (A) 21-18
                      (B) 9-9
                      (C) 4-5
                      (D) 4-0


                      Games for(5/2/11):
                      N.Y. Yankees @ Detroit (-1½) (D) (7:05 pm EDT)
                      N.Y. Yankees @ Detroit (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
                      N.Y. Yankees @ Detroit (-1½) (A) (7:05 pm EDT)


                      ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
                      Last edited by Wallco99; 05-02-11, 08:39 AM.
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #1446
                        Before the questions start, let me answer them. We are finishing out our (D) bet on Detroit and N.Y. Yankees. However, this series also qualified as an (A) bet for other criteria. This will happen on occasion, with teams playing every day, and sometimes against different opponents during our chase. If you opt not to play the new series, that is your choice. But I prefer to make all plays the system calls for, even if they happen to be both sides of a game, which may happen a few times this season also. Good luck, my last post is not a misprint.
                        Last edited by Wallco99; 05-02-11, 07:37 AM.
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                        • million2one
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-19-09
                          • 1290

                          #1447
                          What is everyone's feeling on LAA today?
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                          • NavSchl
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 01-12-11
                            • 94

                            #1448
                            Originally posted by Wallco99
                            Stevex, I believe this is your department!
                            Gawd doesn't anybody do anything for themself? Stop clutering up the fourm, get off your lazy arse and go read past posts.
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                            • hagball52
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 3053

                              #1449
                              Morning all, we got an official Morrison play today. But first an update on the sweeps yesterday. We had 2 out of a possible 5 and 1 more is pending today. Upcoming plays are:

                              DET vs CLE (6/14/2011)
                              MIN @ KAN (6/2/2011)
                              Mark 'em down on your JM calenders.

                              JM MLB System
                              2011 season series record 1-0 (v1 & v2)

                              Next play

                              (5/2/2011) LA Angels
                              @ Boston Red Sox (A) * At some books LAA is the underdog which would qualify it as a run line bet.

                              Notes:
                              The rpi looks good. LAA .528 and BOS .511 . Keep in mind that this series is a 4 game set and according to JM's updated rules it can be played out to a (D) bet so manage your money accordingly. I like the pitching matchups in 2 or 3 of the games and feel really good about games 1 and 2but what do I know. It's a real favorable line today and I expect it to stay pretty tight throughout the series. We have another series starting tomorrow but it does not qualify as an official bet. Will monitor it for a possible v3 play. GL all let's win some money.

                              P.S. I have not yet received an email from JM. If anyone has would you please acknowledge ?
                              Last edited by hagball52; 05-02-11, 09:37 AM.
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                              • mikey360
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-06-08
                                • 388

                                #1450
                                Would LAA not be a runline bet +1.5 as they are the slight underdog at the moment, which also means regardless of where the line moves JM will claim the win if they lose by 1 run.
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                                • GGPLAYER
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-26-09
                                  • 2981

                                  #1451
                                  Originally posted by mikey360
                                  Would LAA not be a runline bet +1.5 as they are the slight underdog at the moment, which also means regardless of where the line moves JM will claim the win if they lose by 1 run.

                                  I believe JM will claim that if +1.5 is offered.
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                                  • hagball52
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-22-10
                                    • 3053

                                    #1452
                                    Originally posted by mikey360
                                    Would LAA not be a runline bet +1.5 as they are the slight underdog at the moment, which also means regardless of where the line moves JM will claim the win if they lose by 1 run.
                                    Where did you find them as an underdog. vi has them listed as a fav both in vegas and offshore ?
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                                    • mikey360
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-06-08
                                      • 388

                                      #1453
                                      Originally posted by hagball52
                                      Where did you find them as an underdog. vi has them listed as a fav both in vegas and offshore ?
                                      On Pinnacle

                                      LAA Angels +1.5 1.503 ML 2.040
                                      Jer. Weaver

                                      Boston Red Sox -1.5 2.820 ML 1.909
                                      C. Buchholz
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                                      • hagball52
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-22-10
                                        • 3053

                                        #1454
                                        Originally posted by GGPLAYER
                                        I believe JM will claim that if +1.5 is offered.
                                        You are correct. If it is offered at any time leading up to the game he will take it. Also if an underdog shifts to a favorite going into gametime and then ends up losing by one JM will come back and say oh! you should have bought the alternate runline. He's done it in the past.
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                                        • rickbo528
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-22-08
                                          • 1842

                                          #1455
                                          Remember what the Angels did last year vs Boston so tread lightly.
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                                          • IceBet
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 04-14-11
                                            • 66

                                            #1456
                                            Originally posted by hagball52
                                            Where did you find them as an underdog. vi has them listed as a fav both in vegas and offshore ?
                                            Bet365 has them as Underdog +1.5.
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                                            • hagball52
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-22-10
                                              • 3053

                                              #1457
                                              Originally posted by mikey360
                                              On Pinnacle

                                              LAA Angels +1.5 1.503 ML 2.040
                                              Jer. Weaver

                                              Boston Red Sox -1.5 2.820 ML 1.909
                                              C. Buchholz
                                              I guess we have our first controversy of this early season. Not quite sure how to deal with this. Don't know if we should establish an official site for our posts or take what you can get. I know we'll come across a lot of issues this season and we all know how JM will act. If anyone has any suggestions please post.

                                              P.S. I know that the vegas lines will sometimes differ quite a bit from offshore cause most JM bettors are offshore. I have found that in the casinos.
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #1458
                                                This is the problem with JM, he has no official site, if he finds +1 1/2 anywhere, he will use that as his line. I am playing ALL JM bets for 1/2 unit and for (-1 1/2), +money is the key for me. If I lose, then I lose, but I am not paying ridiculous juice on EVERY bey just to win 1 unit. Some of the bets in my system will be like this, but not ALL of them. I am (0-1) so far betting these this way, but a couple nice +money wins and I'm right back in it. Only down 3.5 units in JM so far, at most, it's seven wins at even money to get even, but most, if not all, will be high +money this way. I was planning on backtesting this before I started playing it this way, but what the hell, it's only a few units, and this season has been real good to me so far. Not to mention, I don't have a copy of previous years plays, and don't feel like digging through 30 teams schedules right now. If anyone has the previous years, get it to me, and I will be happy to test it. Thanks Hagball for the updates.
                                                Last edited by Wallco99; 05-02-11, 09:12 AM.
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                                                • teecee
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-18-09
                                                  • 6298

                                                  #1459
                                                  jm does not refer you to an official site for closing lines? that's odd. now he can make it up as he goes. that's swell.
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                                                  • hagball52
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                    • 3053

                                                    #1460
                                                    Originally posted by hagball52
                                                    Morning all, we got an official Morrison play today. But first an update on the sweeps yesterday. We had 2 out of a possible 5 and 1 more is pending today. Upcoming plays are:

                                                    DET vs CLE (6/14/2011)
                                                    MIN @ KAN (6/2/2011)
                                                    Mark 'em down on your JM calenders.

                                                    JM MLB System
                                                    2011 season series record 1-0 (v1 & v2)

                                                    Next play

                                                    (5/2/2011) LA Angels
                                                    vs Boston Red Sox (A) * At some books LAA is the underdog which would qualify it as a run line bet.

                                                    Notes:
                                                    The rpi looks good. LAA .528 and BOS .511 . Keep in mind that this series is a 4 game set and according to JM's updated rules it can be played out to a (D) bet so manage your money accordingly. I like the pitching matchups in 2 or 3 of the games and feel really good about games 1 and 2but what do I know. It's a real favorable line today and I expect it to stay pretty tight throughout the series. We have another series starting tomorrow but it does not qualify as an official bet. Will monitor it for a possible v3 play. GL all let's win some money.

                                                    P.S. I have not yet received an email from JM. If anyone has would you please acknowledge ?
                                                    I re-did the post. Gonna try and keep this as neat as possible. Any suggestions would help.
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                                                    • Wallco99
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                      • 7261

                                                      #1461
                                                      Originally posted by hagball52
                                                      You are correct. If it is offered at any time leading up to the game he will take it. Also if an underdog shifts to a favorite going into gametime and then ends up losing by one JM will come back and say oh! you should have bought the alternate runline. He's done it in the past.
                                                      Yet another reason to always play it ONE way, and always be on the plus side of the juice. Don't know if it works yet, but I am a guinea pig for all of you on this one.
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                                                      • hagball52
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                        • 3053

                                                        #1462
                                                        Originally posted by teecee
                                                        jm does not refer you to an official site for closing lines? that's odd. now he can make it up as he goes. that's swell.
                                                        He makes the rules. We all know that. What I'm trying to do is score it properly. So at some point we probably need to decide on an official way to keep track. It will prob differ from Morrison's results.
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                                                        • alexknyc
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-22-11
                                                          • 861

                                                          #1463
                                                          I'm at BetUS and there's no positive juice on anything. Angels are -105 M/L and -210 R/L. Suggestions? (besides get a new book-- I'm trying but funding 5dimes is proving a challenge).
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                                                          • mikey360
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 08-06-08
                                                            • 388

                                                            #1464
                                                            Originally posted by alexknyc
                                                            I'm at BetUS and there's no positive juice on anything. Angels are -105 M/L and -210 R/L. Suggestions? (besides get a new book-- I'm trying but funding 5dimes is proving a challenge).
                                                            This is a known problem with BetUS, because JM refers so many people to that book they usually adjust the lines for JM plays giving worse odds, especially on C bets.

                                                            To be honest I'd prefer to take the ML on this one but i've been burned in the past by not making the +1.5 play.
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #1465
                                                              Originally posted by alexknyc
                                                              I'm at BetUS and there's no positive juice on anything. Angels are -105 M/L and -210 R/L. Suggestions? (besides get a new book-- I'm trying but funding 5dimes is proving a challenge).
                                                              -210 R/L means they are getting +1 1/2. That is what they are talking about. If you are referring to my post, I will be playing the -1 1/2 Alternate run line, that is +money. Stevex, this is kind of like how we were playing the NBA at all (-110) We took some more losses, but still ended up ahead. Hoping the same happens here.
                                                              Last edited by Wallco99; 05-02-11, 09:44 AM.
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                                                              • hagball52
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-22-10
                                                                • 3053

                                                                #1466
                                                                Originally posted by hagball52
                                                                Morning all, we got an official Morrison play today. But first an update on the sweeps yesterday. We had 2 out of a possible 5 and 1 more is pending today. Upcoming plays are:

                                                                DET vs CLE (6/14/2011)
                                                                MIN @ KAN (6/2/2011)
                                                                Mark 'em down on your JM calenders.

                                                                JM MLB System
                                                                2011 season series record 1-0 (v1 & v2)

                                                                Next play

                                                                (5/2/2011) LA Angels
                                                                @ Boston Red Sox (A) * At some books LAA is the underdog which would qualify it as a run line bet.

                                                                Notes:
                                                                The rpi looks good. LAA .528 and BOS .511 . Keep in mind that this series is a 4 game set and according to JM's updated rules it can be played out to a (D) bet so manage your money accordingly. I like the pitching matchups in 2 or 3 of the games and feel really good about games 1 and 2but what do I know. It's a real favorable line today and I expect it to stay pretty tight throughout the series. We have another series starting tomorrow but it does not qualify as an official bet. Will monitor it for a possible v3 play. GL all let's win some money.

                                                                P.S. I have not yet received an email from JM. If anyone has would you please acknowledge ?
                                                                I re-did the post again. Someone brought to my attention that I didn't clarify who the home team was. I will always post the team to bet on on the left in bold and then put @ or vs to specify away or home. Thanks for the input.

                                                                P.S. I'll probably do something with the date post also showing the amount of days and dates. I did mention it was a 4 game set in the notes.
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                                                                • teecee
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-18-09
                                                                  • 6298

                                                                  #1467
                                                                  Originally posted by hagball52
                                                                  He makes the rules. We all know that. What I'm trying to do is score it properly. So at some point we probably need to decide on an official way to keep track. It will prob differ from Morrison's results.

                                                                  oh, i'm sure the results will differ, but at least they will be honest.

                                                                  i thought he always used vegasinsider for closing lines. maybe i'm wrong.
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                                                                  • hagball52
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-22-10
                                                                    • 3053

                                                                    #1468
                                                                    We'll get this thing dialed in everyone. Thanks for all your help. I also want to keep track of the unofficial plays and the v3 plays.
                                                                    If anyone gets a email from JM please post. I didn't send him the money for his premium picks list but as you all know he doesn't send the post out 24 hrs in advance like he promises.
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                                                                    • YOWN650
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 04-25-11
                                                                      • 72

                                                                      #1469
                                                                      Lurker/poster - etc. Generic question for all of you intelligent people - if you book doesn't give an 'alt line' for the team in question, skip the series? (And find a new book...)
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                                                                      • IceBet
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 04-14-11
                                                                        • 66

                                                                        #1470
                                                                        Originally posted by hagball52
                                                                        I guess we have our first controversy of this early season. Not quite sure how to deal with this. Don't know if we should establish an official site for our posts or take what you can get. I know we'll come across a lot of issues this season and we all know how JM will act. If anyone has any suggestions please post.

                                                                        P.S. I know that the vegas lines will sometimes differ quite a bit from offshore cause most JM bettors are offshore. I have found that in the casinos.
                                                                        The crazy thing JM can always go back on it, BetFair has +1.5 for both teams. Very nasty odds but they are there. So he could always reference that.

                                                                        IceBet
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