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  • Wallco99
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #666
    Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 4/20/11
    2010-11 System to date: 19-0
    System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)


    Washington (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) *Official* D/H game 1 (2:15 start time)


    There are four other plays today, I will post them later as well as the WAS (B) bet for tonight if (A) bet loses. Some lines are still undecided.

    **All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change by game time. Official plays will not change. Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “official” appears next to the game. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.
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    • smclaurin2
      SBR Rookie
      • 04-06-11
      • 35

      #667
      Just out of curiosity, and since I know a lot of people on this thread will be playing Wallco and JM...What if we run into a situation were these two systems conflict on a pick? Not trying to stir anything up, just wondering because it seems to me that it could happen.

      Sorry. Nevermind. I probably shouldn't have asked that question until it becomes a reality. Don't want to fill up the thread with hypotheticals.
      Last edited by smclaurin2; 04-20-11, 10:30 AM.
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      • IceBet
        SBR Hustler
        • 04-14-11
        • 66

        #668
        Originally posted by smclaurin2
        Just out of curiosity, and since I know a lot of people on this thread will be playing Wallco and JM...What if we run into a situation were these two systems conflict on a pick? Not trying to stir anything up, just wondering because it seems to me that it could happen.

        Sorry. Nevermind. I probably shouldn't have asked that question until it becomes a reality. Don't want to fill up the thread with hypotheticals.
        If you are playing 2 systems (or more) you should have a unit wager for each system. Therefore, if they conflict then you place 2 (or more) separate bets, one for each system.

        At least that is how I am play it.
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        • hagball52
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-10
          • 3053

          #669
          Originally posted by Wallco99
          It's easier to type your post in word, then copy and paste it. Usually fonts will come over with it.
          Thanks
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          • hagball52
            SBR MVP
            • 09-22-10
            • 3053

            #670
            Originally posted by IceBet
            If you are playing 2 systems (or more) you should have a unit wager for each system. Therefore, if they conflict then you place 2 (or more) separate bets, one for each system.

            At least that is how I am play it.
            Good job IceBet. Both systems should eventually clear out and if you choose one or the other you will miss out.
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            • smclaurin2
              SBR Rookie
              • 04-06-11
              • 35

              #671
              Thanks Ice and Hag. That is what conclusion I came too as well when I thought about it a little longer.
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              • Wallco99
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-01-11
                • 7261

                #672
                Originally posted by smclaurin2
                Just out of curiosity, and since I know a lot of people on this thread will be playing Wallco and JM...What if we run into a situation were these two systems conflict on a pick? Not trying to stir anything up, just wondering because it seems to me that it could happen.

                Sorry. Nevermind. I probably shouldn't have asked that question until it becomes a reality. Don't want to fill up the thread with hypotheticals.
                That's OK, it happened several times during NBA. Trust me when I say, everyone does this different. You will get about 10 different answers. It really depends on how much you have going on each team, and which bet (A) (B) (C) (D) you are on with each. Some of my bets in the future will have us playing both sides of a bet, knowing one will lose. Why? Because there are several criteria which determines plays, all successful, and I will play both as to not miss a win and try to decide which criteria is better than the others. I am sure many will chose not to do this, but that is their choice. If you start picking and choosing which bets to place, is when you are outthinking the systems, and becoming the average bettor. If that was a dueling (D) bet problem, than that would be an issue. But I try to weed those games out the best I can so they won't come up in my system. Playing two (A) bets head to head, or even (B) for that matter, isn't to detramental as a whole, since all (A) and (B) bets don't win anyway. But playing (C) or (D) bets against each other is a little more risky and you need to try to avoid that situation before it happens. I will tell you also, that with all these plays and people playing several systems, opposing bets are probably going to happen a lot. You just have to decide which systems are more profitable for you and stick with those plays first (I would personally play both). Playing both sides you know one will lose, but don't forget, one will also win. So at most, only one team will go to the next bet, hopefully the dog team.
                Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 11:31 AM.
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                • smclaurin2
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 04-06-11
                  • 35

                  #673
                  Thanks for the response Wallco. On an unrelated note, I have a quick labby question (I am brand new to this so please bear with me). I am playing $50 units and I am down 9 units right now (from bad bets early in the season). I am playing MLB PLU$$$ (and JM when it starts). What would a typical labby look like to recover 9 units in a reasonable period? Do most people play four numbers a line or should it be longer. Would you have a line for each new series? If this were any of you...what would your labby look like?
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                  • oklahoma
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-22-10
                    • 602

                    #674
                    wallcos system is all flat bets right?(ie 1 unit on each play) this isnt a chase like chase-110, or have i misread this somewhere.
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                    • Wallco99
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-01-11
                      • 7261

                      #675
                      Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 4/20/11
                      2010-11 System to date: 19-0
                      System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)


                      Washington (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) *Official* D/H game 1 (2:15 start time)
                      N.Y. Yankees (M/L) @ Toronto(B) *Official*
                      N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Toronto (B) *Official*
                      Cleveland @ Kansas City (M/L) (C)
                      Boston (M/L) @ Oakland (B) (3:35 PM EDT start time)

                      If your book is offering (+1 ½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½). Boston/Oakland game is too close to call. Check back before game time for *official*.

                      **All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change by game time. Official plays will not change. Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “official” appears next to the game. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.
                      Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 12:29 PM.
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #676
                        Originally posted by oklahoma
                        wallcos system is all flat bets right?(ie 1 unit on each play) this isnt a chase like chase-110, or have i misread this somewhere.
                        Four game chase, progressive bets to recover losses + win units. When betting favorites, we are playing to win 1 unit. When playing dogs and (-1 1/2) runs games, we are playing to win 1+ units (because of the +money lines). And the "plus" could be a substantial amount more than a 1 unit win. I laid out a bet description earlier in the thread, don't remember where.
                        Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 12:25 PM.
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                        • ken23lau
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-11-10
                          • 296

                          #677
                          Originally posted by oklahoma
                          wallcos system is all flat bets right?(ie 1 unit on each play) this isnt a chase like chase-110, or have i misread this somewhere.
                          I'm pretty sure it's chase or else he wouldn't have A, B, C, D bets...
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                          • ken23lau
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 09-11-10
                            • 296

                            #678
                            Cleveland bet is a C bet no?
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                            • dlunc3
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-31-09
                              • 9129

                              #679
                              Originally posted by Wallco99
                              Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 4/20/11
                              2010-11 System to date: 19-0
                              System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)


                              Washington (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) *Official* D/H game 1 (2:15 start time)
                              N.Y. Yankees (M/L) @ Toronto(B) *Official*
                              N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Toronto (B) *Official*
                              Cleveland @ Kansas City (M/L) (B)
                              Boston (M/L) @ Oakland (B) (3:35 PM EDT start time)

                              If your book is offering (+1 ½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½). Boston/Oakland game is too close to call. Check back before game time for *official*.

                              **All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change by game time. Official plays will not change. Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “official” appears next to the game. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.
                              Isnt KC a C bet?
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #680
                                Originally posted by dlunc3
                                Isnt KC a C bet?
                                Yes, thank you. It wasn't official yet anyway, but you are correct.
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                                • allidoiswin89
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-22-11
                                  • 915

                                  #681
                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                  Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 4/20/11
                                  2010-11 System to date: 19-0
                                  System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)


                                  Washington (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) *Official* D/H game 1 (2:15 start time)
                                  N.Y. Yankees (M/L) @ Toronto(B) *Official*
                                  N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Toronto (B) *Official*
                                  Cleveland @ Kansas City (M/L) (B)
                                  Boston (M/L) @ Oakland (B) (3:35 PM EDT start time)

                                  If your book is offering (+1 ½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½). Boston/Oakland game is too close to call. Check back before game time for *official*.

                                  **All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change by game time. Official plays will not change. Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “official” appears next to the game. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.

                                  this Cleveland/Kansas City series is just boggling my mind with it going back and forth and picking each team in the first 2 games and then losing....

                                  thank god this is a 4 game series so hopefully we can get one of them
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                                  • Wallco99
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-01-11
                                    • 7261

                                    #682
                                    Originally posted by allidoiswin89
                                    this Cleveland/Kansas City series is just boggling my mind with it going back and forth and picking each team in the first 2 games and then losing....

                                    thank god this is a 4 game series so hopefully we can get one of them
                                    As I stated before, we are not always playing teams, sometimes we are, other times we are playing scenarios. And the four game series is the whole point, and the reason for the system's recent success. This system would absolutely never work if it was a game to game system. And as I have stated at least five times, the plus money bets generally take longer to win, and this ends up being more profitable when they do. They also lose more series, but can be recovered a lot faster than a 36 unit favorite four game loss. Prepare for those also,as rare as they are, but they are possibly out there. We just need to build a positive bankroll to take that hit. This is not a day-to-day system, if you are looking for that go to the sports buffet, or whatever the hell JM calls it, and get daily picks there. This system is designed so that whatever bankroll you have on April 1, will be substantially increased by October, like it has in all but one season. I didn't do the day-to-day to see if we were up or down, how often, or when. I just know that in all but one season we were up a lot at the end.
                                    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 12:54 PM.
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                                    • allidoiswin89
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-22-11
                                      • 915

                                      #683
                                      Originally posted by Wallco99
                                      As I stated before, we are not always playing teams, sometimes we are, other times we are playing scenarios.

                                      yea i understand. i just can't figure out the scenario yet haha. guess thats why your the genious
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                                      • hagball52
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-22-10
                                        • 3053

                                        #684
                                        I didn't go to sleep on the JM plays. Here's an update. 3 possible sweeps today and a few more don't finish until tomorrow. Will post as they come up. GL all
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #685
                                          Originally posted by allidoiswin89
                                          yea i understand. i just can't figure out the scenario yet haha. guess thats why your the genious
                                          I wouldn't go that far, I'm doing what I can. Thanks.
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                                          • dratk00l
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 02-15-11
                                            • 55

                                            #686
                                            Originally posted by Wallco99
                                            I wouldn't go that far, I'm doing what I can. Thanks.
                                            I would say you are, as well! Especially after your Chase system in NBA. Just out of curiosity, do you ever parlay your system bets in the event you are feeling lucky or have some "hidden" system for that!?

                                            -Alex
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                                            • Wallco99
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-01-11
                                              • 7261

                                              #687
                                              Wallco MLB PLU$$$ - Plays for 4/20/11
                                              2010-11 System to date: 19-0
                                              System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)



                                              Washington (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) *Official* D/H game 1 (2:15 start time)
                                              N.Y. Yankees (M/L) @ Toronto(B) *Official*
                                              N.Y. Yankees (-1½) @ Toronto (B) *Official*
                                              Cleveland @ Kansas City (M/L)(C) *Official*
                                              Boston (M/L) @ Oakland (M/L) (B) *Official* (3:35 PM EDT start time)


                                              If your book is offering (+1 ½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½).

                                              **All lines and standings are based on final lines on ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change by game time. Official plays will not change. Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “official” appears next to the game. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”.
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                                              • stevex
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-02-10
                                                • 5122

                                                #688
                                                Thanks for the update Wallco, lets make some cash today boys and girls!
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                                                • Maxi_EV
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-11-10
                                                  • 535

                                                  #689
                                                  Originally posted by Wallco99

                                                  If your book is offering (+1 ½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½).

                                                  you mean if team A is dog on my booker and you have team A as a favorite and you have a play on team A RL-1.5...I should take team B RL-1.5?

                                                  If not, what is the "alternate" line ?
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                                                  • Wallco99
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                    • 7261

                                                    #690
                                                    Originally posted by stevex
                                                    Thanks for the update Wallco, lets make some cash today boys and girls!
                                                    Washington looking good already!
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                                                    • Wallco99
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                      • 7261

                                                      #691
                                                      Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                      you mean if team A is dog on my booker and you have team A as a favorite and you have a play on team A RL-1.5...I should take team B RL-1.5?

                                                      If not, what is the "alternate" line ?
                                                      No, most books will offer you the option to buy -1 1/2 runs on teams theat are getting + 1 1/2. If you can't buy these, then you have to be careful playing run line games that I list. DO NOT CHANGE THE TEAM I HAVE LISTED, and DO NOT PLAY THE +1 1/2, odds are not worth it for us that way.
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                                                      • knugen
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-09-09
                                                        • 2612

                                                        #692
                                                        oohh yes, unfortenately i missed washington, and they looking pretty good
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                                                        • teecee
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-18-09
                                                          • 6298

                                                          #693
                                                          Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                          you mean if team A is dog on my booker and you have team A as a favorite and you have a play on team A RL-1.5...I should take team B RL-1.5?

                                                          If not, what is the "alternate" line ?
                                                          i don't mean to offend you, but if you don't know what is meant by alernate run line, then do not bet baseball.
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                                                          • jphil
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-12-09
                                                            • 757

                                                            #694
                                                            [quote=atari5200;9694751]
                                                            Stevex, I love how you got the number 95%. All the newbs plus all the people who don't really post plus all people who check JM threads who don't even have sbr accounts (like I used to) and 95% of them all are following Wallco too! Excellent.


                                                            maybe he missed his calling. should've been in politics.
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #695
                                                              [quote=jphil;9702175]
                                                              Originally posted by atari5200
                                                              Stevex, I love how you got the number 95%. All the newbs plus all the people who don't really post plus all people who check JM threads who don't even have sbr accounts (like I used to) and 95% of them all are following Wallco too! Excellent.


                                                              maybe he missed his calling. should've been in politics.
                                                              How do you know I'm not? I am just putting stuff out here if people want to play it great. If not OK. And as one of the complainers of thread congestion, is that ridiculous argument that you are bringing up even necessary? It was an innocent comment just to try and stress a point, and I don't really think it warrants three different responses arguing the data. Grow up.
                                                              Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 03:25 PM.
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                                                              • mikey360
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-06-08
                                                                • 388

                                                                #696
                                                                This washington game is brutal
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                                                                • doin
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 02-27-09
                                                                  • 457

                                                                  #697
                                                                  .......................
                                                                  Last edited by doin; 04-20-11, 03:42 PM. Reason: stupid post
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                                                                  • mikey360
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 08-06-08
                                                                    • 388

                                                                    #698
                                                                    Originally posted by doin
                                                                    .......................
                                                                    Sometimes when the favourite changes due to close lines a team that was the favourite and had a minus 1.5 runline may change to plus 1.5, if that happens look at the alt runlines to get the -1.5
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                                                                    • mikey360
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 08-06-08
                                                                      • 388

                                                                      #699
                                                                      Raining in the Oakland game, how many innings do we need for it to be called a win?
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                                                                      • allidoiswin89
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 03-22-11
                                                                        • 915

                                                                        #700
                                                                        Originally posted by mikey360
                                                                        Raining in the Oakland game, how many innings do we need for it to be called a win?

                                                                        how are you betting on baseball if you don't know the answer to that question. not to mention it would take you one minute to find out the answer......its called google
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