95% of the people following Wallco, are following JM MLB....
It's very logical.
It's very logical.
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looks like nym will be dps tomorrow as well as phillyComment -
rivera screws us in the 9th............Comment -
i was reading post #597 where you said i was absolutely right.
Wallco we have no problems here, I always said that this is your decision to make. I gave my reasons for my opinion and they have been supported by others with you agreeing as well. Some people want this thread to become yours for the most part, which is fine with me.
I personally cannot play your system because of the time zone issues and having to re-check often for official plays which we'll never really be too sure about unless you say so. There's a lot of love for you here to stay on and be successful. Anyone else who made a system and didn't include the details of it would get a heap of negative comments thrown at them, but since you've backtested for so long and are coming off a great system run in NBA, there's nothing but respect for you.Comment -
Kinda funny. No one complain when Wallco put his system in the JM NBA thread. It was a huge $ maker. Who cares if Wallco stay here? We are all here to make $.Comment -
Thanks for the kind words. I am really not trying to be difficult here, I had no idea in the world an offer like that would ever surface from the work I was doing. I could have just given it to him and posted nothing at all, and no one would have known about it unless they searched the net and stumbled across it whenever he gets it out there. That would leave absolutely nothing for this thread to do while we wait in anticipation for the first exciting JM play, which has us betting negative money games most of the time. I am just trying to make people as much as possible with no out of pocket to them and not jeopardizing my terms. Even if the system details were out here, there really would be no differnce to you. You would still have to wait and check on the same games I am waiting on anyway. So If you would have to check a website anyway, what difference does it make if it is ScoresandOdds or this one. Not to mention, it is easier to place a bet when the word "official" appears next to it rather than looking at another site and hoping you are on the right side if the line is close and you are pressed for time. I will keep posting, whoever wants to follow is more than welcome to cash in on the free plays. Whoever doesn't, can use it as a tracking system to see just how good it is, in case it goes for sale in the future and you want it. But for now I don't care about that, it's not for sale yet and my plays are free, so take it for what it's worth. I laid out my findings and mentioned all my intentions before I posted my first play, hiding nothing, including the bad season. It was seemingly unanimous for me to start posting plays. I have the utmost respect for all of you, and obviously want the same in return, and in order to get that, I have to earn it, and that is what I am trying to do. I guess the main question is " Would you rather have plays posted from a system that has produced 550+ units over the past six years, and not have all the details of that system, or, have nothing at all"? My answer, "post the plays".Last edited by Wallco99; 04-19-11, 10:51 PM.Comment -
Wallco, I agree with you 100% Let's never lose sight of the opportunity you've created for many people to follow and hopefully make a ton of cash. I'll be watching your plays closely all year even if I can't play it.
Stevex, I love how you got the number 95%. All the newbs plus all the people who don't really post plus all people who check JM threads who don't even have sbr accounts (like I used to) and 95% of them all are following Wallco too! Excellent.
Can you give me another percentage stevex? How many people reply to respectful questions from people only trying to consider their valued opinion? I would say maybe 95% What do you think?Comment -
Stay here Wallco this seems to be the meeting place. I'll still keep track of all the JM plays so you can focus on your plays. I'll still keep posting my stuff in here for now but if it gets lost in the shuffle people will know where to find me.
I went 2-1 tonight and I'm at 32-4 with my series plays with 1 pending. The STL series is canceled cause of the rainout. I'll make an official post in the morning. G'night all.Comment -
Keeping posting here Wallco! JM System and Wallco MLB PLU$$$ in one thread, just like NBA.Comment -
yeah!!! I think Wallco MLB System and JM was clear and nice to play, on3 Favorite System and Shutout System is too many bet confuses.Comment -
For what its worth, my opinion is that Wallco should start a new thread. Not because he, and others, will "contaminate" the JM discussions, but because his system has complications that will generate the same questions over and over again. If his thread is focussed on his system only, it will hopefully minimize stupid questions and become a streamlined operation. ElCapitan ran a very smooth thread with the NHL. Everyone here, now, knows what Wallco is doing. Give it a week or two, when JM kicks in, and this place will get ugly.
Wallco, it is not that I, or the others who agree with me, do not want you. Au contraire, we are all looking forward to reading your messages. I, for one, would like to be confident that if I asked you a question about the MLB Plu$$$$ system, that no dipshit butts in with a "I didn't know this was in JM's pdf", before you have the opportunity to answer my query. We will all, to a man and Ghislaine, would simply put your thread as a bookmark and the group would remain together; friendly and vibrant.
A one-stop shop is fine for a collection of established systems, but there will be many questions, particularly about the selection process, let alone which line to bet on and whether to bet to win or bet to risk.
IMHO all of this should be on another thread, if only to make your life less difficult (it will not be easy wherever you are). For my own benefit, I don't mind where I get your info from, and I hope I'm sharp-minded enough to work out who is talking to whom and about what, but there are some dim folk out there who will make you swim through treacle, within weeks.
Best of luck. I'm playing your system and I will get the info, regardless of where you post it.
Regards
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have you perused the jm nba thread? this thread is more tidy, in my opinion. you have the option to ignore posters who are not posting relevant info. ignore everyone but those who will be contributing plays for systems you want to follow, or sift through all the b/s posts, as do i.Comment -
again, hagball, if i took it upon myself to ignore all posts but yours and wallco's, the thread would no longer be cluttered. simple solution. either sift through all the unimportant messages, or take responsibility and ignore retarded posts, such as mine. it's that easy, peeps.Comment -
Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 19-0
System profit/loss: +26.44 units (finished series)
(4/19/11) Baltimore (M/L) (B) – Win
(4/19/11) Baltimore (-1 ½) (B) – Win
(4/19/11) N.Y. Yankees (M/L) (A) – Loss
(4/19/11) N.Y. Yankees (-1 ½) (A) – Loss
(4/19/11) Cleveland (M/L) (B) - Loss
(4/19/11) Boston (M/L) (A) – Loss
(4/19/11) Washington (M/L) (A) - Postponed
(A) 11-12
(B) 5-4
(C) 0-3
(D) 3-0
Next games:
There are five plays today, potentially six, if the result of the Washington @ St Louis game does not go in our favor in game 1 of the double header. Some lines are not posted yet. I will post plays around noon, sooner if any become official.Last edited by Wallco99; 04-20-11, 09:53 AM.Comment -
Don't sweat the losses, especially in the Plus money games. Actually when I was doing my backtest, I was disappointed every time I wrote down an (A) bet win on a plus money bet, knowing the rewards were higher later in the series. I know it has only been a couple of days, but I'm sure some of you have noticed we lost more games than we won. Did you also happen to notice that we made a couple bucks on that though, $6 to be exact. Point being, losses get made up pretty quick. I just want to reiterate to everyone that this system, we definitely will have (D) bet losses. But the amount of action that we have regularly will more than make up for them. I am already preparing myself for the barage of negative posts after our first loss. Keep in mind, we weren't playing the system for the first +20 units of profit, so where if we were to lose a game early on, the system would still be plus. More losses are obviously going to come on our plus money bets, versus our favorite bets. But common logic will tell you that. I am definitely not going to get on here and say we will go undefeated, like Chase 110 did, or give some unrealistic percentage like 97% that I see attached to other systems. But what I will say is that over the past four seasons, whether the losses happened at the beginning, middle, or the end, the large amount of wins made us huge profits. Hopefully the same holds true for 2011.Comment -
eventually chase 110 will lose, and nobody should be surprised. nothing is perfect, and if folks expect that any system will be, they are not living withing the realm of reality.Comment -
I think stevex or somebody made a point yesterday about the way I presented my posts and sometimes it was too difficult to decipher. I agree. Wallco's posts are formal and easy to read so I'll try to clean it up a little and put a footnote at the bottom if there is any additional info.
My Plays
2011 season series plays to date: 32-4
[b](4/20/11) Cincinnati (M/L)
(4/20/11) St Louis Canceled
Notes: I will go through my notes and put the totals of the A-B-C-D bets and show where I'm at. I will not post any unit totals or financial info because it's a bet your own way thing. Hope this new format helps and thanks for the input stevex if that was you.
P.S. For some reason my computer won't let me put CIN in bold and it keeps putting the [B] in front instead of after. I'll get it figured out and clean it up.
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We could start a new JM thread, if some folks think this will get too cluttered.
I personally am only here for JM, I am intrigued to see how Wallco will do, but I would never just blindly follow anyone.
When JM season gets going I would like to see a thread devoted to just that, so we can answer questions for noobs and bounce ideas off of each-other.Comment -
I am not looking for recognition, just want to hang with friends and win as a group, same as we did in NBA. When imotiv8, Honeyeater, and a few others started this thread, the very first topics brought up were bringing successful systems to this thread and playing them all as a group. It was mentioned over and over, regularly by many people, several who were asking me every day if I was completed with my backtests. But as soon as the first non JM system gets put on here, posters I have never heard or seen before, are on here saying get out. I am not referring to Kevin, you are a big contributor and I deeply respect your views and opinions, not saying I don't respect others. But the way I understood it, this thread was created for this reason and was clearly stated that way at the beginning. If the handful of creators of this thread want it out, I will move it in a second. But it appears most people want it here. Not to mention, take a look again at post #649. Not to pat myself on the back, but that is the most organized clutter I have ever seen.Comment -
What else do we have to talk about now anyway. By then, the questions will slow and things should be smoother. Day 2 already went smoother than day 1. And to be honest, there is more clutter on here about whether or not the system is clutter, rather than clutter coming from the system itself. Say that five times!Comment -
i agree wallco.Comment -
your play postings, wallco, are very easy to find. very well setup. nobody should have a problem finding them. if those posting jm plays, or any plays from another system, use a similar setup, everyone should be able to find what they need with no problem.Comment -
hi wallco........have you posted the official rules to your MLB system?Comment
