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  • OLGC_Slayer
    SBR MVP
    • 02-28-08
    • 2186

    #1
    KC/Seattle
    Right now I am leaning KC. Better bullpen and IMHO and better starter, Washburn is an accident waiting to happen. Seattle has a much better lineup from top to bottom but I looked at a couple of Greinke's outings on mlb.tv and he looks very, very sharp.

    Any thoughts on this one? Want some input from the braintrust here before I make a decision.
  • thegreatdiatchi
    SBR MVP
    • 03-07-08
    • 1154

    #2
    I agree that Washburn is a disaster in disguise but I also think Seattle has the better lineup. Greinke has been on a roll to start off the season and imo is a very underrated prospect. I'm too unsure to say where I would lean on this but your writeup is bulletproof and based on that I hope you are a winner.
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    • OLGC_Slayer
      SBR MVP
      • 02-28-08
      • 2186

      #3
      Originally posted by thegreatdiatchi
      I agree that Washburn is a disaster in disguise but I also think Seattle has the better lineup. Greinke has been on a roll to start off the season and imo is a very underrated prospect. I'm too unsure to say where I would lean on this but your writeup is bulletproof and based on that I hope you are a winner.
      Hmmm, well thanks diatchi but its just a small lean right now on KC. I am still looking into the stats here and there is no advantage one way or the other. Maybe I should just lay off.
      A spray hitting team like the Royals could give Seattle some trouble, but I just cant pull the trigger yet.
      Appreciate your comments.
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      • CashMoney
        SBR MVP
        • 01-07-08
        • 1982

        #4
        I'm on the M's tonight. I feel as if Greinke is due to be lit up. He also has 3 no decisions against the M's with a career ERA of 4.22. I also think KC is playing way over their heads.
        In addition, Washburn has a decent record of 8-4 against the Royals with an ERA of 3.36

        I wasn't sure which way I was going to lean on this one either but have a feeling the M's are the way to go.

        GL whichever way you decide to go.
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        • OLGC_Slayer
          SBR MVP
          • 02-28-08
          • 2186

          #5
          Originally posted by CashMoney
          I'm on the M's tonight. I feel as if Greinke is due to be lit up. He also has 3 no decisions against the M's with a career ERA of 4.22. I also think KC is playing way over their heads.
          In addition, Washburn has a decent record of 8-4 against the Royals with an ERA of 3.36

          I wasn't sure which way I was going to lean on this one either but have a feeling the M's are the way to go.

          GL whichever way you decide to go.
          Thanks CM for your analysis and feedback. Its hard to bet against the M's at home. I cant decide if the Royals are for real or not. My plan was to play the Royals RL at minimum anytime Greinke or Meche were on the mound and the line was right.
          Starting to lean away from this play.
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          • RescueMe
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-06-08
            • 249

            #6
            I want to take Sea (home team coming after bad lost). couldn't pull the trigger yet don't like Washburn and Mariners may have problems with lineup, Beltre, Morse
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            • mofome
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-19-07
              • 13003

              #7
              as of now, washburns era, whip, hr/9, and bb/9 are all well below the league average. under 20% of the balls batted against him have been line drives; i believe his % there is slightly better than Greinkes. I kinda like the under here.
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              • CashMoney
                SBR MVP
                • 01-07-08
                • 1982

                #8
                Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                Thanks CM for your analysis and feedback. Its hard to bet against the M's at home. I cant decide if the Royals are for real or not. My plan was to play the Royals RL at minimum anytime Greinke or Meche were on the mound and the line was right.
                Starting to lean away from this play.
                I was going to stay away from this one as well but I decided to through 1 unit on it. Still feel good about it though.

                GL people
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                • OLGC_Slayer
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-28-08
                  • 2186

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mofome
                  as of now, washburns era, whip, hr/9, and bb/9 are all well below the league average. under 20% of the balls batted against him have been line drives; i believe his % there is slightly better than Greinkes. I kinda like the under here.
                  mofo where are you finding the AB play by plays?
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                  • ryanXL977
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 20615

                    #10
                    name me a worse offense in the world than the mariners

                    go royals
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                    • buztah
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-23-07
                      • 7470

                      #11
                      Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                      Right now I am leaning KC. Better bullpen and IMHO and better starter, Washburn is an accident waiting to happen. Seattle has a much better lineup from top to bottom but I looked at a couple of Greinke's outings on mlb.tv and he looks very, very sharp.

                      Any thoughts on this one? Want some input from the braintrust here before I make a decision.
                      No action for me but strong lean on the Royals. G the better pitcher and has been hot as of late.
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                      • freeVICK
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-21-08
                        • 7114

                        #12
                        take the roayls
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                        • curious
                          Restricted User
                          • 07-20-07
                          • 9093

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                          Right now I am leaning KC. Better bullpen and IMHO and better starter, Washburn is an accident waiting to happen. Seattle has a much better lineup from top to bottom but I looked at a couple of Greinke's outings on mlb.tv and he looks very, very sharp.

                          Any thoughts on this one? Want some input from the braintrust here before I make a decision.
                          I looked at this game. Seattle is hitting the stuffing out of the ball. KC is dead last in runs per game. KC has absolutely the best pitching staff in MLB. No one else is even close. Seattle's pitching is a disaster.

                          So, can the Seattle hitters stay ahead of the Seattle pitching staff in runs they score vs runs the pitchers give up? Or, can KC's pitchers keep Seattle below the measly runs KC's pitiful offense will score? Beats me. I would have to pass on this one.
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                          • curious
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-20-07
                            • 9093

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ryanXL977
                            name me a worse offense in the world than the mariners

                            go royals
                            5 runs per game doesn't seem too bad. KC averages below 3 runs per game.
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                            • ryanXL977
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 20615

                              #15
                              the mariners offense is not as good as they have played
                              there is no way ibanez is gonna hit 40 hrs
                              they are near the bottom of the al come september
                              i guarantee it
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                              • beaneaters
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-31-07
                                • 362

                                #16
                                I also lean towards KC. The Royals are facing lefties back to back, and Grienke has been impressive. Only reason I haven't made the bet yet is the concern over the travel.
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                                • OLGC_Slayer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-28-08
                                  • 2186

                                  #17
                                  I am going to wait until about 15 minutes before gametime and see where the line has moved before I make a decision. But right now its a no play for me, although I had my trigger finger on KC there for awhile.
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                                  • OLGC_Slayer
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-28-08
                                    • 2186

                                    #18
                                    Anyone else have any thoughts on this one?
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                                    • ryanXL977
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-24-08
                                      • 20615

                                      #19
                                      wait for any lineup change
                                      maybe beltre is out
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                                      • OLGC_Slayer
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-28-08
                                        • 2186

                                        #20
                                        KC ML has fallen to -103.
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                                        • dannyt76
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 06-29-07
                                          • 779

                                          #21
                                          I like the Royals in this one. Grienke is off to a good start and I don't trust Washburn. Royals haven't been scoring many runs lately, but with Grienke on the mound, gotta like my chances here.

                                          If you were considering playing the M's in this one, you might want to play them on the 1st 5 innings since their pen is a mess and is liable to blow the game every night.
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                                          • Saunders FTW
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 03-10-08
                                            • 986

                                            #22
                                            kc wins 5-3
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                                            • OLGC_Slayer
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-28-08
                                              • 2186

                                              #23
                                              Played KC. They've been hitting well on the road, I dont trust Washburn, and Grienke has looked very, very good.
                                              The Mariners bullpen is very shaky.
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                                              • dannyt76
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 06-29-07
                                                • 779

                                                #24
                                                GL. I like the play.
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                                                • St. Andrew
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-23-08
                                                  • 2265

                                                  #25
                                                  Slayer, I hope it cashes. I couldn't play the Royals tonight because it's an awkward spot for them, coming out of a scoring drought but then going on the road against a team averaging 5 runs per game. I think Greinke will be solid, but traveling to Seattle does weird things to good teams. Royals are only hitting .240 vs lefties too. That scared me off. I give the tiniest edge to Seattle in this game, but obviously I want you and my Royals to get it done!
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                                                  • OLGC_Slayer
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-28-08
                                                    • 2186

                                                    #26
                                                    We'll see Saint. I am going to watch this whole game I want to get a good look at both of these teams.
                                                    KC struggles against lefties but I think a team that hits like KC can get Washburn. What I am mostly playing here is Greinke, and I think that despite Seattles potent offense that they have some holes in their lineup. If the Royals can get to Washburn early, which is what I'm counting on, I think they can do some damage to this Mariners pen.
                                                    Anyways, either way its not a make or break play. Its a half unit...lol.
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                                                    • St. Andrew
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-23-08
                                                      • 2265

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by OLGC_Slayer
                                                      We'll see Saint. I am going to watch this whole game I want to get a good look at both of these teams.
                                                      KC struggles against lefties but I think a team that hits like KC can get Washburn. What I am mostly playing here is Greinke, and I think that despite Seattles potent offense that they have some holes in their lineup. If the Royals can get to Washburn early, which is what I'm counting on, I think they can do some damage to this Mariners pen.
                                                      Anyways, either way its not a make or break play. Its a half unit...lol.
                                                      Butler has a hit in every game for the Royals, and maybe Gordon will jack one out the park for you. Good luck. Half a unit is half a unit...and a whole lotta beer
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                                                      • OLGC_Slayer
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-28-08
                                                        • 2186

                                                        #28
                                                        Greinke with the masterpiece and the winnah!
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                                                        • dannyt76
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-29-07
                                                          • 779

                                                          #29
                                                          9 innings and gives up 1 run. Another gem for Greinke. Congrats on the win.
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                                                          • RescueMe
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 03-06-08
                                                            • 249

                                                            #30
                                                            Glad I didn't pull the trigger on Mariners got KC 1H+!
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