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  • yisman
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-01-08
    • 75682

    #1
    Fade Charlie Morton now!
    I don't care how cold the Cards are or how bad Lohse is.

    Cards are only a slight favorite in Pittsburgh on Wednesday night.

    Don't miss out.
    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
    [/quote]

    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
  • starfire
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-24-10
    • 17045

    #2
    over
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    • yisman
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-01-08
      • 75682

      #3
      yeah, 9.5 is reasonable. Should have a good chance of going over.

      Wed 9/22955St Louis Cardinals
      K. Lohse
      -1.5 +151-106OVER 9.5 -105
      04:05 PM956Pittsburgh Pirates
      C. Morton
      +1.5 -164+100UNDER 9.5 -105

      Pinnacle lines
      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
      [/quote]

      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        St Louis is mind boggling bad. Amazing what can happen when a team quits
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        • HoulihansTX
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-12-09
          • 30566

          #5
          wouldnt do it with found money.

          Cards, CWS, and dodgers have totally given up. Not worth a bet unless they are home dogs.
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Originally posted by HoulihansTX
            wouldnt do it with found money.

            Cards, CWS, and dodgers have totally given up. Not worth a bet unless they are home dogs.


            Red Sox too.

            Fade these four to the bank from here on out.

            I'm loving the A's tomorrow Houli -- what do you think?
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            • HoulihansTX
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-12-09
              • 30566

              #7
              Originally posted by No coincidences
              Red Sox too. Fade these four to the bank from here on out. I'm loving the A's tomorrow Houli -- what do you think?
              -150 is outta my price range, but given the situation they should win.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #8
                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                -150 is outta my price range, but given the situation they should win.
                -150 as an inferior team record-wise with a total of 7 and fairly even pitching matchup says it all IMHO. That's a big number, and one I'm willing to lay in this spot.
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                • rhymenocerous
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 08-27-10
                  • 324

                  #9
                  Thanks yisser. Morton is an autofade and should be played on the run line also. I believe Pirate opponents are 12-2 on the run line in games he's started this season.
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                  • Superman_Punch
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-07-09
                    • 583

                    #10
                    Lohse had 2 good outing recently and has a winning record vs Pit. I like it...Fade Charlie!!
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                    • rhymenocerous
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 08-27-10
                      • 324

                      #11
                      I couldn't pull the trigger on the run line with the ML being only -110. Ridiculously favorable odds against Morton. Seems like I say this every time he pitches and yet he continues to be a revenue stream. You'd think the books would adjust, but I guess most of the betting public isn't paying close enough attention to punish them for it.
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                      • jagaf22
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-22-08
                        • 2932

                        #12
                        Take it to the bank boys
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                        • rhymenocerous
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-27-10
                          • 324

                          #13
                          He has really been the surest bet in baseball all season. I started the fade his first game to be honest with you. As a Braves fan, I've known for a while how absolutely awful Charlie is.

                          Now inevitably we will see someone pop in here and say either he's not that bad/has good stuff/hasn't put it together or that he has pitched well his last couple times out. The first statement (or set of statements) is absolute bullshit and anybody that believes it doesn't know what they are talking about; the second statement is actually true. He did pitch pretty well his last time out, and the Pirates still lost on the run line. He pitched pretty well the time before that too, and the Pirates lost. Charlie has had stretches for a game or three where he doesn't look half bad. It's why he's still in the league, if you consider the Pirates to be a true MLB team. But he inevitably follows those outings up with a string of absolute slaughterings and embarrassments.

                          In summary, yes STL is not playing well and they could always lose this game. Yes, Morton has the rare ability to pitch a decent game. But the fact remains the Pirates are 2-12 versus the run line in his starts this year. You'd be hard pressed to find a more consistent money maker on the year and this is your last or second to last opportunity of the season to capitalize on it. I think it's well worth the risk at STL -110, and maybe even a sprinkle on the run line.
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                          • Mr. Jones
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-02-05
                            • 942

                            #14
                            Charlie's not that bad. He has good stuff just hasn't put it together yet. He has pitched well his last couple of times out.
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                            • linedrivr
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-04-10
                              • 2223

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                              wouldnt do it with found money.

                              Cards, CWS, and dodgers have totally given up. Not worth a bet unless they are home dogs.
                              Amen!
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                              • Bluedragon
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-30-10
                                • 3484

                                #16
                                PIT +1.5 or maybe even PIT ML.

                                Can't stand the Cards right now.
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                                • HoulihansTX
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 02-12-09
                                  • 30566

                                  #17
                                  The cards could careless about winning any game, while the pirates are looking for wins every chance they get.
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                                  • PDW
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-14-10
                                    • 660

                                    #18
                                    Charlie Morton gets a win today.
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                                    • rhymenocerous
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 08-27-10
                                      • 324

                                      #19
                                      And there you have it.

                                      Good luck Morton backers.
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                                      • Bluedragon
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-30-10
                                        • 3484

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                        The cards could careless about winning any game, while the pirates are looking for wins every chance they get.

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                                        • thebestthereis
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-01-09
                                          • 11459

                                          #21
                                          does morton own morton's steakhouse i am hungry all of a sudden
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                                          • Smoke
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-09-09
                                            • 48111

                                            #22
                                            Might have to make a play on the cardinals tonight
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                                            • yisman
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-01-08
                                              • 75682

                                              #23
                                              from the AP preview:

                                              Morton (1-11, 8.61 ERA) will search once again for his first win since beating the Cubs on May 5. The right-hander is 0-6 with a 7.43 ERA in eight starts since.
                                              He didn't get a decision in Thursday's 6-2 loss at New York, but it was his eighth consecutive start and 13th of 14 to result in a Pittsburgh defeat. He allowed two runs, five hits and a season-high four walks in five innings.
                                              Morton may be in for another rough outing against St. Louis. He has compiled a 11.70 ERA while losing all three of his career meetings with the Cardinals.
                                              St. Louis has dropped six of nine and 24 of 30, as its magic number for elimination from the NL Central race is down to four.
                                              "We're trying to win," center fielder Colby Rasmus told the team's official website. "We just can't seem to put a finger on what's going on. I just chalk it up to baseball. Nobody's coming in here wanting to lose. Everybody wants to do good. We just ain't got no mojo right now."
                                              St. Louis starter Kyle Lohse (4-7, 6.75) will try to continue his dominance of the Pirates.
                                              The veteran right-hander is 5-0 with a 2.26 ERA in eight games - seven starts - against Pittsburgh. He beat the Pirates again Aug. 23, yielding two runs in 5 1-3 innings of a 10-2 win at PNC Park.
                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                              [/quote]

                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                              • yisman
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-01-08
                                                • 75682

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mr. Jones
                                                Charlie's not that bad. He has good stuff just hasn't put it together yet. He has pitched well his last couple of times out.
                                                No, he hasn't.

                                                He hasn't been terrible his last two times out, but neither was a particularly good start.

                                                5 innings, 5 hits, 4 walks against the Mets is a good start?

                                                The performance against the Reds was his best of the season, but it was merely average by normal standards.

                                                If you mean by Charlie Morton standards, sure, he's been great his last two times out.
                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                [/quote]

                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                • keyboarding
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-30-09
                                                  • 6817

                                                  #25
                                                  I'm on it.
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                                                  • rhymenocerous
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 08-27-10
                                                    • 324

                                                    #26
                                                    I think he was being facetious yisman. I said that inevitably someone would come in here and make those exact comments. I should have added that somebody would come in and say "Charlie Morton gets a win tonight", because that's happened the last two times I've started this exact same thread about one of his upcoming games.
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                                                    • mandude
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-16-09
                                                      • 1474

                                                      #27
                                                      I would stay away....far away. It's like comparing two piles of shit & deciding which one smells better. If it looks & smells like shit...it is shit.
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                                                      • yisman
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-01-08
                                                        • 75682

                                                        #28
                                                        rhyme, it did cross my mind after I saw your prediction, but he didn't give an indication that he was joking.
                                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                        [/quote]

                                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                        • THA_DIESEL
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 3632

                                                          #29
                                                          The thread of this title should have been "Fade Kyle Lohse now!"

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                                                          • THA_DIESEL
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-23-10
                                                            • 3632

                                                            #30
                                                            2-0 Pirates

                                                            Lohse

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                                                            • drfunkmaster
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-29-08
                                                              • 11162

                                                              #31
                                                              cards really suck.. WOW i cant beleive how bad they fvcking are...
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                                                              • keyboarding
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-30-09
                                                                • 6817

                                                                #32
                                                                2-1 now on the wild pitch. STL does look pretty disinterested at the plate. Morton getting ahead in the count, getting quick outs. Could be a long game for STL backers.
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                                                                • keyboarding
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-30-09
                                                                  • 6817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  All right, time to watch some preseason hockey. This is fukking pathetic. Bowker? Are you kidding me?
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                                                                  • THA_DIESEL
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-23-10
                                                                    • 3632

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Lohse

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                                                                    • THA_DIESEL
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                                      • 3632

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Charlie Morton

                                                                      3 IP, 2 hits, 1 run, 3 ks

                                                                      Pitch count: 52

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