Do you think -1½ RL is a sucker bet?

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  • Sawyer
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-01-09
    • 7720

    #1
    Do you think -1½ RL is a sucker bet?


    I don't think so.

    I know home teams (who win) win by 2+ runs only 67% of the time since home team (if leading) has only 8 innings of offense while the visiting team will always have 9 innings of offense. However, odds change in your favor dramatically. -200 Home Chalk becomes -105 or -110. if you pick your spots right, -1½ is a great way to reduce the juice. Even sometimes, you can have Plus Juice bet!

    In baseball, score margin is higher then hockey & soccer. In soccer & hockey, every goal gives you 1 points(score). However, in baseball you can score 2, 3 or 4 runs in one go.
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    No, I don't think so.
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    Yes, it's a sucker bet.
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  • apwmel
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 03-26-09
    • 789

    #2
    It's no a sucker bet. But some suckers do make the bet.
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    • HoulihansTX
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 02-12-09
      • 30566

      #3
      Games are decided by 3 or more runs 50%+ of the time.

      So no, but it should alwyas be a smaller bet than if you were to bet the ML.

      You should search JerseyShop. He has a thread compiling the avg amount of runs games are decided by.
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      • thebestthereis
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-01-09
        • 11459

        #4
        i only bet the +1.5 run line when i bet the run line
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        • Dexter
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-24-08
          • 25829

          #5
          try and not go too heavy on the home team with a run line...you pretty much have 8 innings of offense. road team has infinity.

          im guilty sometimes...
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          • landers781
            SBR MVP
            • 02-27-09
            • 4774

            #6
            i dont play RL often, seems as though i hardly cover it
            maybe i will give it another shot though
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            • Mybologne
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-09
              • 13507

              #7
              I play RL only when it is heavy chalk
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              • eatdust11
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-16-09
                • 683

                #8
                No I don't think so.. it can provide good opportunities.
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                • jhack704
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-04-09
                  • 5346

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thebestthereis
                  i only bet the +1.5 run line when i bet the run line
                  thats dumb. you know only 12% of games have the fav winning by 1. why dont you just bet the underdog straightup then and make more money
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                  • Foggy
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-07-10
                    • 664

                    #10
                    I always bet the RL. -1.5, occasionally -2.5 more often than straight bets. I rarely lay chalk. I just bet games that I think will be high scoring, so there's less chance of a 1 run game. Also more often on Road teams so if it's tied in the 9th the game doesn't end when the home team scores 1.
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                    • Wreckloose
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-05-10
                      • 618

                      #11
                      I usually bet the runline.
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                      • thebestthereis
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-01-09
                        • 11459

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jhack704
                        thats dumb. you know only 12% of games have the fav winning by 1. why dont you just bet the underdog straightup then and make more money
                        it works for me and i rarely do it. it is dumb to pick the losing side of any bet too.
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                        • Whippit
                          Restricted User
                          • 04-29-10
                          • 3065

                          #13
                          check Ganchrow's old posts
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                          • boeing power
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-23-10
                            • 9698

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thebestthereis
                            i only bet the +1.5 run line when i bet the run line
                            we found the sucker bet, +1.5 is the worst bet in sports
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                            • str
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 11716

                              #15
                              Really do not like to make a play that, at the end of the game, my team is playing for a different situation than I am. They trade the run for the out,they win , I lose. Tough pill to swallow.
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                              • Vegas Revolver
                                Restricted User
                                • 06-08-10
                                • 74

                                #16
                                i think the -1.5 RL hits more often than the +1.5 RL statistically if you look at it
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                                • Sunde91
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8325

                                  #17
                                  Depends, but not usually.

                                  I don't understand how ANYONE lays -150 plus on +1.5 RLs though...just stupid.
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                                  • Sunde91
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-26-09
                                    • 8325

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by boeing power
                                    we found the sucker bet, +1.5 is the worst bet in sports
                                    Wouldn't touch it if it was anything more than -120.

                                    Some do have value, though.
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                                    • kmoney
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-19-10
                                      • 119

                                      #19
                                      yeah +1.5 always looks like crap. does anybody do this?
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                                      • tfarrell12
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 10-21-09
                                        • 34

                                        #20
                                        I play +1.5 on live betting sometimes. I got dodgers +1.5, when the score was 1-1, for +137 tonight.
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                                        • sharpmoney
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-17-10
                                          • 528

                                          #21
                                          There is some value in the -1.5 runline so I don't think its a sucker bet. Pick your spots though. I don't play it myself. Only make one or two bets per day and a run line play hardly ever makes the list. I'd rather play the -1.5 with a road team then a home team. It just gets you that extra at bat when you have the road team and the home teams gets only eight innings of offense assuming they were ahead.
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                                          • joe blow
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-09-06
                                            • 775

                                            #22
                                            I bet the -1.5 run line and i bet the run line.That's the way to bet on favs laying more than -140
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                                            • THE PROFIT
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-09
                                              • 17701

                                              #23
                                              -1.5 is a good bet, +1.5 is just stupid. IMO
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-06-08
                                                • 36581

                                                #24
                                                Sawyer you sly dog you, that is a trick question, there is no real right answer.....
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                                                • jose21_us
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-24-10
                                                  • 3844

                                                  #25
                                                  I will do it when the juice is really high...
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                                                  • MB
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-05-09
                                                    • 1072

                                                    #26
                                                    I don't think it's a sucker bet exactly, but who here has had long term success betting -1.5?
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                                                    • Sunde91
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                      • 8325

                                                      #27
                                                      Exhibit A: STL just gave up a run in the bottom of the 9th and won 4-3 as a -230 fav on a -115 RL.
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                                                      • Wreckloose
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-05-10
                                                        • 618

                                                        #28
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                                                        • paco
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-07-09
                                                          • 62873

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mybologne
                                                          I play RL only when it is heavy chalk
                                                          This.
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                                                          • Sawyer
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-01-09
                                                            • 7720

                                                            #30
                                                            The funny thing is,

                                                            Everytime I pick -1½ RL, they win by 1 run, LoL!

                                                            PS: Of course, in fact, it doesn't happen everytime but since effect is very dramatic (they win by 1 run and you lose your bet) you feel like it happens very often. If home chalk is -200, you need to hit %67+ on the long run in order to make profit. When odds are +100, even %51 will make you money. You'll lose many bets if you pick -1½ RL, but your overall profit may be better. I like -1 RL, in case of a win by 1 run, your bet is voided.
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                                                            • coanwe
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-11-10
                                                              • 263

                                                              #31
                                                              Love the avatar Wreckloose!
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