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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Cardinals Huge Favorites to Avoid Astros Brooms
    MLB odds Make Cardinals Huge Favorites to Avoid Astros Brooms

    Bud 'Cardinal Killer' Norris gets the call today in St. Louis as the Houston Astros go for what would be a shocking sweep against Chris Carpenter and the Redbirds.

    Believe it or not, the Houston Astros have a shot at sweeping a series today when they face the Cardinals in the finale at Busch Stadium. If statistical history has a say in the matter, Houston has more than just a shot.



    David S. 'Bud' Norris will be on the mound for the Astros in St. Louis looking to extend his mastery of the Cardinals. Norris has made three starts versus the Cards since being called up last August. The Astros have not only won all three games, but Norris has yet to yield an earned run to Albert Pujols and his mates.

    Chris Carpenter (6-1, 2.80) is next in line among St. Louis starters to try his luck against Norris (2-4, 7.52). Just as he has been in two of his previous three assignments versus St. Louis, Norris will be a huge underdog. St. Louis carries heavy 270-275 chalk into the match with the total set at 7½.

    The Astros rode their largest single inning of the season, a four-run seventh, to a 6-3 win in the series opener on Tuesday. Houston and Brett Myers were 205 underdogs against Brad Penny, with a rare 'over' for both teams.

    Houston took advantage of some more uncharacteristic shoddy St. Louis fielding in Game 2 for a 9-6 win. The Cards were minus 175 going against Wandy Rodriguez and 'over' bettors once again cashed their tickets.

    Season records have the Astros 12-21 and down a little under seven units while St. Louis is 20-14 and just about even at the window.

    There's really no explanation for why Norris has dominated this fine Cardinals lineup while struggling against almost all other comers. His strikeout-to-walk ratio against St. Louis (17/9) is very similar to the same rate against the rest of the lineups he's faced (70/36).

    The only glaring statistical explanation is that he has yet to allow a long ball to the Redbirds in 18 innings. Norris has given up 11 in his 64 career frames when not facing St. Louis. But even that doesn't hold much water since he has surrendered just two this season, both in his last start on May 7 at home to the Padres.

    Carpenter missed a shot at the feeble Astros lineup when they came through the Gateway City in April. In three of his starts versus Houston in '09, St. Louis was 1-2 despite Carpenter's fine stats -- 23 IP, 5 ER, 14/4 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

    The Cardinals have won Carpenter's last five starts this season, with the big right-hander posting just one non-quality start among his seven mound assignments. One factor in the five St. Louis wins with him on the mound recently is that Carpenter hasn't yielded a home run since his second trip to the hill on April 11.

    With all that information behind us, this game may not make it into the history books because of weather. There is a 60 percent chance of thunderstorms, some of them severe with strong winds and hail. Daytime highs are only expected to reach the upper-70s for the St. Louis area, and the SSW winds up to 20 mph and higher would be blowing out to center, left-center.

    A veteran of 23 MLB seasons, Jim Joyce is the scheduled plate umpire. That is fine for Norris and the Astros with Joyce 4-2 in favor of the visitors in his six games calling balls and strikes this season. The 'under' is also 4-2 in Joyce's plate assignments.

    He worked the dish in three Astros games during the 2009 campaign, with Houston victorious in all three.

    The 'Stros head out from St. Louis after the game for a weekend series in San Francisco. That could play into how long any rain delay is allowed to carry on before Thursday's contest might be suspended. The Cardinals will be making the short trip to Porkopolis following this game to take on the Reds over the weekend.

    NOTE: The W-L records shown for starting pitchers are their team's W-L mark when they started games in the 2010 season. Statistical sources for this article were Retrosheet.org, Baseball-Reference.com, ESPN.com and, of course, S-BEE-R-dot-com!
  • JGILL50
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-31-08
    • 836

    #2
    good info willie
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    • spippen
      SBR MVP
      • 03-17-09
      • 3874

      #3
      Astros team total over 2 1/2 runs. Only because they have been hitting well against the Cards.
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #4
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        • bigsmitty
          SBR MVP
          • 04-12-10
          • 3026

          #5
          Thanks again for the great writeup and useful info Willie Bee.
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          • wagster71
            SBR Rookie
            • 02-19-10
            • 41

            #6
            Just food for thought...Bud Norris (HOU) is 3-0 against the Cards in his career. He has a 0.00 ERA and a WHIP of 1.167. On 4/15, he pitched against STL and won 5-1 giving up 4 hits, 3BB and had 9 K's. Carpenter is 7-3 lifetime and has an ERA against Hou of 2.75 with a WHIP of 1.066[/color]
            Thinking under????
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            • Extra Innings
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-26-10
              • 15058

              #7
              Norris's success more than likely due to the utilization of some underhanded tactics both on and off the field, not uncommon for Houston teams. Similar to Lawrence "give it or I'll take" Taylor, guy is unpredictable and the Cardinals know this. I'll meet you at the cashier's window with my winning Cardinals RL, ML, and o7.5 ticket.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82824

                #8
                I'm huge on Cardinals for this game.
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                • Willie Bee
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-14-06
                  • 15726

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  I'm huge on Cardinals for this game.
                  So is pimike. I wish you both good luck.

                  However, I had a nice little windfall on an Astros-Padres parlay Wednesday, and can't help but put a few pennies of that profit on Big Bud
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                  • HoulihansTX
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                    • 02-12-09
                    • 30566

                    #10
                    Hou RL is one of the better plays on the board today.
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                    • Sawyer
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-01-09
                      • 7761

                      #11
                      Nice writeup Willie!

                      I'm on Cards too. Norris' numbers are impressive but I'm a strong believer in Law of Averages. These numbers should change somehow. Cards win 5-1, GL!
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                      • HoulihansTX
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                        • 02-12-09
                        • 30566

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sawyer
                        Nice writeup Willie! I'm on Cards too. Norris' numbers are impressive but I'm a strong believer in Law of Averages. These numbers should change somehow. Cards win 5-1, GL!
                        He's on Big Bud, as in Bud Norris
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                        • Extra Innings
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-26-10
                          • 15058

                          #13
                          You have PIMIKE, Pavy, Houlihan, and JJGold on the Cards.... Went from a strong play to a very weak play with Gold chiming in
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                          • bigsmitty
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-12-10
                            • 3026

                            #14
                            This line is very strange. Given Bud's history (whatever you want to make of it) and the fact that Hou has just won the two recent outings it should be relatively even. I know their records (home/away) are vastly different but come on-I'll take +260 for at least minor coin on a team that just won twice versus their opponent most days of the week. Good luck all. "Underhanded tactics"...I always thought LT used both hands-around someone's neck-god love him. Cheers
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                            • spippen
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-17-09
                              • 3874

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Extra Innings
                              Norris's success more than likely due to the utilization of some underhanded tactics both on and off the field, not uncommon for Houston teams. Similar to Lawrence "give it or I'll take" Taylor, guy is unpredictable and the Cardinals know this. I'll meet you at the cashier's window with my winning Cardinals RL, ML, and o7.5 ticket.

                              liking the over, got it at 7.0 -120
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                              • Whippit
                                Restricted User
                                • 04-29-10
                                • 3065

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                So is pimike. I wish you both good luck.

                                However, I had a nice little windfall on an Astros-Padres parlay Wednesday, and can't help but put a few pennies of that profit on Billy Budd



                                cool choice brah
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                                • Pavv4
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-16-09
                                  • 464

                                  #17
                                  Why not take the change on the Astros!
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                                  • steelcity
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 04-26-10
                                    • 488

                                    #18
                                    Something seems fishy with the line, Carp is pitching good but the Cards are playing uninspired and not hitting well, that paired with Norris's history vs the Cards seems like a good game to stay away from.
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82824

                                      #19
                                      Everyone is looking at Bud Norris and ignoring the starting pitcher of the Cardinals who is 4-0 and the Cardinals won 6 of his 7 starts this year.
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                                      • dodger33
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-14-09
                                        • 3962

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sawyer
                                        Nice writeup Willie! I'm on Cards too. Norris' numbers are impressive but I'm a strong believer in Law of Averages. These numbers should change somehow. Cards win 5-1, GL!
                                        Beat me to it! I will go with 6-0 cards. Bud's luck has run out against the Astros. Pujols hits 2 homeruns today. Teams with this much talent do not let themselves get embarassed.
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                                        • HenPrivilege
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-10-09
                                          • 1720

                                          #21
                                          Going to be a good game
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                                          • sapidoc
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-25-10
                                            • 1273

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HenPrivilege
                                            Going to be a good game
                                            +1 This is going to be epic
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              I am going heavy on Cards RL

                                              They are due to have a big game
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                                              • Ashleyfrench07
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 05-09-10
                                                • 38

                                                #24
                                                Dont the Astros suck?
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                                                • Willie Bee
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                  • 15726

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  Everyone is looking at Bud Norris and ignoring the starting pitcher of the Cardinals who is 4-0 and the Cardinals won 6 of his 7 starts this year.
                                                  He pitched pretty well against the Astros last season, yet St. Louis lost two of his three starts versus Houston. The odds are obviously in the Cardinals' favor today: 1) Carpenter is by far the better arm; 2) St. Louis has by far the better offense, and; 3) It's always very difficult to sweep a major league team in a series.
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                                                  • Davydave
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-01-08
                                                    • 700

                                                    #26
                                                    St. Louis has to come around today...
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                                                    • ukbsktbll
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-25-09
                                                      • 2048

                                                      #27
                                                      I like the cards today
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                                                      • HoulihansTX
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-12-09
                                                        • 30566

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                                        You have PIMIKE, Pavy, Houlihan, and JJGold on the Cards.... Went from a strong play to a very weak play with Gold chiming in
                                                        I'm on Houston RL. easeist bet I've made in a while.
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                                                        • DIRTYDIRTY
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-12-09
                                                          • 1144

                                                          #29
                                                          staying away i hate the cards screwed me the last two days
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                                                          • EXpertcapper
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 02-05-10
                                                            • 5026

                                                            #30
                                                            taking that value here Houston +260
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                                                            • FireMedic1614
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-05-10
                                                              • 1255

                                                              #31
                                                              cant lay 325 chalk i think they win but pfft after the last 2 pathetic games fuk that
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                                                              • Jiggy Fly
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-02-08
                                                                • 1256

                                                                #32
                                                                Cards win this one!!
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                                                                • sapidoc
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-25-10
                                                                  • 1273

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Cards just hit -321 at pinny before close. Interesting game coming up.
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                                                                  • egr99
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                                    • 310

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                                    He pitched pretty well against the Astros last season, yet St. Louis lost two of his three starts versus Houston. The odds are obviously in the Cardinals' favor today: 1) Carpenter is by far the better arm; 2) St. Louis has by far the better offense, and; 3) It's always very difficult to sweep a major league team in a series.
                                                                    34 sweeps out of 134 series tracked this year so far, not including 1st series of year for each team. Roughly 1 in 3.94 series has been a sweep this year.

                                                                    20 Home teams swept opponent.
                                                                    14 Road teams swept oppenent.

                                                                    egr99
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                                                                    • geebert74
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-03-09
                                                                      • 2445

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Astros ML and Over 3 runs...
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