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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82818

    #1
    Braves - Cubs
    Under 8.5

    Weather will be very warm 85 degrees at game time. All 6 games last year went under except the first one which was actually a no hitter for the Cubs until late in the 7th inning when the bullpen blew it. Lowe will keep the ball down and Zambrano plays better on the road in a pitcher's friendly park like Turner field without any pressure from the drunks at Wrigley. Braves lineup with 3 new starters in Cabrera, Glaus and Heyward and Cubs with only Byrd as a new starter. Atlanta bullpen is solid and if Lowe has a lead after 6 innings Moylan, Saito and Wagner will not give up many runs. Cubs bullpen is iffy but I doubt they will have a lead to protect so the under is a strong bet tomorrow.
  • Iwinyourmoney
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-18-07
    • 18368

    #2
    3 of my diehard cub fan friends drove down for this game
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82818

      #3
      Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney
      3 of my diehard cub fan friends drove down for this game
      It should be a great day Iwin! 85 degrees in early April!
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      • Cougar Bait
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-04-07
        • 18282

        #4
        The drunks at Wrigley I'm there about 10 times a year, so this statement is fairly accurate.
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        • Iwinyourmoney
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-18-07
          • 18368

          #5
          I almost went but I'm a cardnials guy
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63167

            #6
            good luck.......

            I hope Lowe puts his 2nd half woes behind him, he already was one of the most hittable pitchers in the game.......but it got way worse in the 2nd half last year..... every hitter including pitchers were first Ballot Hall of Famers against him after the all-star break.... hitting him to a tune of .335
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            • whatsgood5
              Restricted User
              • 10-13-09
              • 15359

              #7
              Didn't go with a total play in this one, but as hard as it is for me to do, I'll be going with the Cubs here. Not a fan of Lowe at all. Still very excited and will be cheering my ass off for my Braves though of course.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82818

                #8
                Lowe's ERA is 3.17 and BAA .238 vs Cubs. He does better with teams he sees twice a year.
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63167

                  #9
                  Lowe is most likely washed up
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                  • pavyracer
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82818

                    #10
                    He won 15 games last year with an average team. Expect him to do much better this year being more familiar with the team after one year.
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                    • Chi_archie
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-22-08
                      • 63167

                      #11
                      I'm sorry I can't have an actual discussion on someone's pitching abilities by using W/L record...


                      good luck with the under.... its got a chance to win
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                      • whatsgood5
                        Restricted User
                        • 10-13-09
                        • 15359

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        He won 15 games last year with an average team. Expect him to do much better this year being more familiar with the team after one year.
                        He pitched pretty shitty though. I mean sure the guy won 15 games, but his ERA was like 4.6something. I'd take Kawakami over him in a heartbeat.
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                        • pokernut9999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-25-07
                          • 12757

                          #13
                          Pavy do you want to meet up for a game this year ?
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                          • Jones10
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-24-08
                            • 2251

                            #14
                            I would have opened with Hudson or Hanson this year, not Lowe
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                            • Chi_archie
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63167

                              #15
                              is Jurrjens starting on the DL? him and Hanson are two have great stuff....
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                              • whatsgood5
                                Restricted User
                                • 10-13-09
                                • 15359

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Jones10
                                I would have opened with Hudson or Hanson this year, not Lowe
                                I wouldn't have given it to Hanson here, since I agree with giving the honor to a veteran, but I'd agree that Huddy should have gotten the nod here.
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                                • whatsgood5
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 10-13-09
                                  • 15359

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  is Jurrjens starting on the DL? him and Hanson are two have great stuff....
                                  No, his shoulder's fine. I believe he's starting Wednesdays game.
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                                  • Jones10
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-24-08
                                    • 2251

                                    #18
                                    Your right whatsgood going wit the vet......Im a braves fan too so I hope Lowe has a solid season
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82818

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999
                                      Pavy do you want to meet up for a game this year ?
                                      Sure why not. Check out the schedule and let me know what works for you. I'm pretty open.
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                                      • whatsgood5
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 10-13-09
                                        • 15359

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Jones10
                                        Your right whatsgood going wit the vet......Im a braves fan too so I hope Lowe has a solid season
                                        Me too, but to be honest, I consider him to be the fifth best starter, and that's not so much of a knock on Lowe, but more of a compliment to the rest of our pitching staff.
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                                        • pavyracer
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 82818

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by whatsgood5
                                          I wouldn't have given it to Hanson here, since I agree with giving the honor to a veteran, but I'd agree that Huddy should have gotten the nod here.
                                          He is the highest paid pitcher on the team and he won the opener last year. Cox knows what he is doing. He doesn't want to put too much pressure on Hanson and Jurrjens on opening day.
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                                          • whatsgood5
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-13-09
                                            • 15359

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            He is the highest paid pitcher on the team and he won the opener last year. Cox knows what he is doing. He doesn't want to put too much pressure on Hanson and Jurrjens on opening day.
                                            I really don't think how overpaid he is should play a factor of him getting the start or not, and I'd agree that it'd be too much pressure for Hanson or Jurrjens, which is why I think Huddy should be given the nod.
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                                            • Jones10
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-24-08
                                              • 2251

                                              #23
                                              I love our staff this year...If wagner stays healthly n can nail um down for us this year we'll be in the mix all season long....I still thank the tigers for JJ everytime he pitches for us
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                                              • pavyracer
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-12-07
                                                • 82818

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by whatsgood5
                                                I really don't think how overpaid he is should play a factor of him getting the start or not, and I'd agree that it'd be too much pressure for Hanson or Jurrjens, which is why I think Huddy should be given the nod.
                                                This is why you are not Bobby Cox. He won 15 division titles in a row. I trust his judgement better than yours.
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                                                • whatsgood5
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 10-13-09
                                                  • 15359

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  This is why you are not Bobby Cox. He won 15 division titles in a row. I trust his judgement better than yours.
                                                  Having not lived through the glory days, I am sure you will disagree with my opinion, but the game has passed him by. This has been pretty evident by his clear mis-management of the bullpen over the last few years. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy in a totally straight way, and respect the hell outta him for what he's done for the franchise, but I'm glad this is his last year managing the club.
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                                                  • coanwe
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 01-11-10
                                                    • 263

                                                    #26
                                                    I'm going to be in Atlanta for the series!! pumped!!
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                                                    • whatsgood5
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 10-13-09
                                                      • 15359

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by coanwe
                                                      I'm going to be in Atlanta for the series!! pumped!!
                                                      Enjoy yourself man, don't be pouring any drinks on Melky! had to do it
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                                                      • pokernut9999
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-25-07
                                                        • 12757

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        Sure why not. Check out the schedule and let me know what works for you. I'm pretty open.

                                                        Will do
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                                                        • gryfyn1
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-30-10
                                                          • 3285

                                                          #29
                                                          Lowe was decidely worse last year than any other, But his FiP was 4.06 and his BaBiP was .330.

                                                          The troubling stat was his jump in BB/9 coupled with his fall in K/9, but over all Lowe will be fine this year.
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                                                          • beerman2619
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-24-09
                                                            • 7752

                                                            #30
                                                            Braves fan here but i think Lowe well should be the Braves fifth starter. He didn't look that good in spring either Cubs should tee off on him.
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                                                            • WileOut
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-04-07
                                                              • 3844

                                                              #31
                                                              Braves are going to struggle with the bat this year. Absolutely no power at all. Heyward is a line drive hitter, he wont hit more than 20 homeruns in 1 season his whole career.
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                                                              • whatsgood5
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 10-13-09
                                                                • 15359

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by WileOut
                                                                Braves are going to struggle with the bat this year. Absolutely no power at all. Heyward is a line drive hitter, he wont hit more than 20 homeruns in 1 season his whole career.
                                                                Bold statement. Maybe he won't hit 20 this year, but he sure as hell will hit 20 at some point in his career.
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                                                                • JDUB07
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-09-08
                                                                  • 1721

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Lowe will be fine this year IMO. I like the bet.
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                                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                                    • 63167

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by WileOut
                                                                    Braves are going to struggle with the bat this year. Absolutely no power at all. Heyward is a line drive hitter, he wont hit more than 20 homeruns in 1 season his whole career.

                                                                    I could see McClouth, McCann, Glaus, all hitting 25-30 hr's and they will be fine....

                                                                    they produced alot of runs relative to their HR's last year.... I think they'll be even a bit better at that this year
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                                                                    • Brock Landers
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                                      • 45359

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Cougar Bait
                                                                      The drunks at Wrigley I'm there about 10 times a year, so this statement is fairly accurate.
                                                                      Cougar, we WILL do a game this year for sure...i've sat in the CBOE boxes too, they are worth some extra cash
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