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  • Bones402
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-02-10
    • 697

    #1
    Braves 2010
    Just curious what everyone thinks of them in the upcoming year with all the offseason moves they have made this year. Including maybe Johnny Damon heading to the ATL. I think that this can give them some of the power in the outfield that they desperately need. Your thoughts?
  • warriorfan707
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-29-08
    • 13698

    #2
    Good team, not a serious contender
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    • KingJIM
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 06-25-09
      • 757

      #3
      I think they be in the hunt for the wild card. I like their pitching rotation. They could use more power but don't think Johnny Damon is the answer. NL East is a real tough division this year.
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      • THEGREAT30
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-04-08
        • 8970

        #4
        I think they make the playoffs then anything can happen. They are a team that I will watch all year being that I live in ATL
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        • scarp
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-12-10
          • 697

          #5
          I think Damon is getting old and the only way we should get him is if he takes a huge cut on the contract he wants.
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          • Bones402
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-02-10
            • 697

            #6
            Originally posted by scarp
            I think Damon is getting old and the only way we should get him is if he takes a huge cut on the contract he wants.
            I agree but he did put up like 26 homers last year or something like that and we could definitely use that I know his defense is average at best so that could come back to haunt us. I think that they will make the playoffs of course i hope they win the division but thats gonna be tough with the phillies just getting better it seems all the time
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            • daneblazer
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-14-08
              • 27861

              #7
              Stacked at starting pitcher, stacked in the minors, will have the "win it for Bobby" mentality all season. If Chipper stays healthy they are a contender.
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              • runnershane14
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-23-07
                • 803

                #8
                I think Atlanta will definitely be a contender this year.
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                • THEGREAT30
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-04-08
                  • 8970

                  #9
                  Pitching is totally key, we need one more guy with 30 to 40 HR power
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                  • Bones402
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-02-10
                    • 697

                    #10
                    Originally posted by daneblazer
                    Stacked at starting pitcher, stacked in the minors, will have the "win it for Bobby" mentality all season. If Chipper stays healthy they are a contender.
                    I agree with Chipper staying healthy which is highly unlikely lets face it, but to be honest I think Bobby has been part of the reason that they havent been able to score a lot of runs I think he relies on the power too much and doesnt manufacture runs when they need to. The last couple of years they havent been a good power hitting team and therefore they didnt score a lot of runs
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                    • runnershane14
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-23-07
                      • 803

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bones402
                      I agree with Chipper staying healthy which is highly unlikely lets face it, but to be honest I think Bobby has been part of the reason that they havent been able to score a lot of runs I think he relies on the power too much and doesnt manufacture runs when they need to. The last couple of years they havent been a good power hitting team and therefore they didnt score a lot of runs
                      This is true.
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                      • Bones402
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-02-10
                        • 697

                        #12
                        Well doesnt look like theyre gonna get Damon I think Detroit made a better offer to him
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                        • nitty48
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-05-10
                          • 211

                          #13
                          the division is too strong they wont do much
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                          • Willie Bee
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-14-06
                            • 15726

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nitty48
                            the division is too strong they wont do much
                            I agree with you on the first part, that the NL East is a strong division. But not that such an idea means the Braves won't do much.

                            Odds are good that the Nationals will not lose 100+ games...again. If Washington makes just a small improvement, say six wins, then it could pull Philly back a bit. You can't count on the Mets having as injury-plagued season that they did, the Marlins, as someone posted from a Baseball Prospectus analysis earlier today, are always better than people think they'll be, and what has been said about the Braves in this thread regarding their pitching and Cox's swan-song season makes sense to me.

                            Let's say the Nats win 65, certainly not a reach. I can truly see the other four teams all within six games or so at the end, maybe low-to-mid 80s in the Win column up to 90-92.

                            I'm going to run my crude sim program this weekend to see if what I think right now is really possible. But I like the Braves' chances to contend for a playoff slot as much as I like the Cubs, Marlins and Mets, and of course the Cards and Phillies. And then you've got the Giants, Rocks and Bums out in the NL West. Should be a very, very interesting NL season, far more wide open in my mind than the AL where you've got the Yanks and BoSox at the very top, the Twins and ChiSox battling in the Central and what could be wide-open NL West if the notion that Seattle and Texas are both set up to knock the Halos out of their stranglehold on that division.
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                            • Grind House
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-01-10
                              • 1405

                              #15
                              The GM didn't do shit to get us more power at bat. Hanson is the shit, and I hope he doesn't have a sophomore slump or we're in trouble. They say we have a badass minor league player that I hope he comes up. All in all I don't see us making the playoffs, but it will be close. Braves bitches!!!
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                              • whatsgood5
                                Restricted User
                                • 10-13-09
                                • 15359

                                #16
                                I like our chances this year, but then again I do every year. Would have been nice to have added a power bat, maybe Glaus will be that, but I wouldn't count on it. Pitching staff is deep as fukk with JJ, Hanson, a healthy Huddy, Lowe and that Kawakami who was actually pretty good last year. Can;t wait for the season.
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                                • Rainman328
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 02-01-10
                                  • 192

                                  #17
                                  Don't count on Damon, White Sox could be the new frontrunners
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                                  • THEGREAT30
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-04-08
                                    • 8970

                                    #18
                                    I don't care for Damon they should focus elsewhere, like pulling off a trade for younger power hitter at some point, good day.
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                                    • whatsgood5
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-13-09
                                      • 15359

                                      #19
                                      Yeah we won't be getting Damon fortunately
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82831

                                        #20
                                        Braves will finish 4th in the division. The only reason they won't finish last is because they will get some mercy wins on Bobby Cox fairwell tour.
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                                        • Willie Bee
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-14-06
                                          • 15726

                                          #21
                                          Pavy, I can see them fourth in a tight group ahead of the cellar-dwelling Nats. But when you say fourth with the "mercy wins," are you thinking sub-.500?
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                                          • THEGREAT30
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 10-04-08
                                            • 8970

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by whatsgood5
                                            Yeah we won't be getting Damon fortunately
                                            you live in the Atl area? good day.
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                                            • nbt3428
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-13-10
                                              • 366

                                              #23
                                              Jason Heyward is going to be the answer to your outfield power needs, kid is going to be amazing.
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                                              • scarp
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-12-10
                                                • 697

                                                #24
                                                Damon would do nothing except have a big salary hit on the braves. They are a good team, but seem to never the big hitter
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                                                • stealthyburrito
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-12-09
                                                  • 21562

                                                  #25
                                                  they're good, but they can't win the division with philly there, they're just too well rounded (except for the closer). they could make some noise in the wild card race tho
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82831

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                    Pavy, I can see them fourth in a tight group ahead of the cellar-dwelling Nats. But when you say fourth with the "mercy wins," are you thinking sub-.500?
                                                    No they will be above .500 so Bobby can retire on a high note. But the Phillies, Marlins and Mets will have more wins.

                                                    We basically lost our ace in Vasquez and the 8th and 9th inning pitchers. The new guys to close are almost 40 years old. Three of the starters are approaching 40 years old and the two other young starters are coming from years where they never pitched that many innings in their careers before. Chipper is older and had a bad year last year, Glaus is coming from major surgery and he doesn't have Pujols batting ahead of him to get some pitches to hit and the outfield is the worst in the majors.
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                                                    • FrozenMAN
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-23-09
                                                      • 4334

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      We basically lost our ace in Vasquez and the 8th and 9th inning pitchers. The new guys to close are almost 40 years old. Three of the starters are approaching 40 years old and the two other young starters are coming from years where they never pitched that many innings in their careers before. Chipper is older and had a bad year last year, Glaus is coming from major surgery and he doesn't have Pujols batting ahead of him to get some pitches to hit and the outfield is the worst in the majors.

                                                      FINALLY! someone who actually knows whats going on with this team and acknowledges all they lost, biggest was Vazquez and Gonzalez
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                                                      • TheLock
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-06-08
                                                        • 14427

                                                        #28
                                                        Nats will improve by 8-10 games.

                                                        If they don't I'll take a week ban from SBR
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                                                        • FrozenMAN
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-23-09
                                                          • 4334

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheLock
                                                          Nats will improve by 8-10 games.

                                                          If they don't I'll take a week ban from SBR

                                                          how pumped are you dude, PITCHERS AND CATCHERS HAVE REPORTED TO JUPITER BABY!!!!!!!


                                                          im soooooooooooo pumped for this season, has the makings of that 03 team
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                                                          • Madukwe
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 06-11-09
                                                            • 601

                                                            #30
                                                            damon would make them better, but i wouldnt consider them the team to win the east
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                                                            • whatsgood5
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-13-09
                                                              • 15359

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by nbt3428
                                                              Jason Heyward is going to be the answer to your outfield power needs, kid is going to be amazing.
                                                              Don't get me wrong, I love the kid, but he won't hit 30+ HR's this year...
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                                                              • whatsgood5
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 10-13-09
                                                                • 15359

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                No they will be above .500 so Bobby can retire on a high note. But the Phillies, Marlins and Mets will have more wins.

                                                                We basically lost our ace in Vasquez and the 8th and 9th inning pitchers. The new guys to close are almost 40 years old. Three of the starters are approaching 40 years old and the two other young starters are coming from years where they never pitched that many innings in their careers before. Chipper is older and had a bad year last year, Glaus is coming from major surgery and he doesn't have Pujols batting ahead of him to get some pitches to hit and the outfield is the worst in the majors.
                                                                Vasquez may have been our Ace, but JJ and Hanson are not far behind at all. We're basically replacing Vasquez with Huddy and keeping the same rotation from the beginning of last year, so losing Vasquez really doesn't hurt us too much at all IMO.
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                                                                • whatsgood5
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 10-13-09
                                                                  • 15359

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Obviously would have been nice to keep KK in the 'pen long-term and have keep Javy, but that would've been way to expensive. I'm content with the pitching staff we have now...
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                                                                  • whatsgood5
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 10-13-09
                                                                    • 15359

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by THEGREAT30
                                                                    you live in the Atl area? good day.
                                                                    Nope. Stuck in Central NY surrounded by a bunch of Mets and Phils fan unfortunately
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                                                                    • cantin
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 10-23-09
                                                                      • 106

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Phillies take this in a landslide
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