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  • grecycle99
    SBR MVP
    • 12-18-09
    • 3672

    #176
    UPDATED for 06/25/2024

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 106-4; Profit: 67.78 units
    Filtered System: 23-0; Profit: 39.10 units
    5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

    Total (3 systems) : 136-4; Profit: 135.88 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

    Records
    : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 71-39; 16-7; 5-2
    Game 2 (B) win = 27-12; 5-2; 2-0
    Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A) 1 * 14.23
    (B) 2 * 14.23
    (C)

    REGULAR FOR 06/25/2024

    (B) San Diego +105 to win 1.43U

    Filtered

    No Play

    5/2

    No Play
    Comment
    • J.M. Disciple
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-16-10
      • 5148

      #177
      Less than a unit left on the line. Just reset the line or do you add $10 (10 - 14.23) ?
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      • J.M. Disciple
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-16-10
        • 5148

        #178


        I think we have to go back and test 2022 using a different method because that year go so out of hand! Was close to -600 units at one point. So I think this labby method needs to be more hybrid with some type of stop loss. Maybe 10-20 unit downswing the lines need to be reset. Other wise there is no way to scale this system and no bankroll can support this type of chase when a hurricane hits.

        Maybe over the next month I'll spend some time on 2022 and share my results. Going to implement my method with a 20 unit stop loss where the lines get reset. There are multiple days in September of 2022 where there is close to 400 units at risk on A-wagers!
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        • grecycle99
          SBR MVP
          • 12-18-09
          • 3672

          #179
          UPDATED for 06/26/2024

          System(s) record Chase :

          Regular system: 110-4; Profit: 71.35 units
          Filtered System: 24-0; Profit: 40.17 units
          5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

          Total (3 systems) : 141-4; Profit: 140.52 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

          Records
          : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

          Game 1 (A) win = 74-40; 17-7; 5-2
          Game 2 (B) win = 28-12; 5-2; 2-0
          Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

          Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

          (A) 1 * 14.23
          (B)
          (C)

          REGULAR FOR 06/26/2024

          No Play

          Filtered

          No Play

          5/2

          No Play
          Comment
          • grecycle99
            SBR MVP
            • 12-18-09
            • 3672

            #180
            UPDATED for 06/27/2024

            System(s) record Chase :

            Regular system: 110-4; Profit: 71.35 units
            Filtered System: 24-0; Profit: 40.17 units
            5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

            Total (3 systems) : 141-4; Profit: 140.52 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

            Records
            : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

            Game 1 (A) win = 74-40; 17-7; 5-2
            Game 2 (B) win = 28-12; 5-2; 2-0
            Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

            Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

            (A) 4 * 11.06
            (B)
            (C)

            REGULAR FOR 06/27/2024

            (A) Baltimore -185 to win 1.11U
            (A) Philadelphia RL -126 to win 1.11U

            Watch STL -138

            Filtered

            No Play

            5/2

            No Play
            Comment
            • J.M. Disciple
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-16-10
              • 5148

              #181
              Phi B
              Bos A
              TB A
              Arz A
              ATL A

              Some action for Friday if lines hold.
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              • grecycle99
                SBR MVP
                • 12-18-09
                • 3672

                #182
                UPDATED for 06/27/2024

                System(s) record Chase :

                Regular system: 110-4; Profit: 71.35 units
                Filtered System: 24-0; Profit: 40.17 units
                5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

                Total (3 systems) : 141-4; Profit: 140.52 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                Records
                : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                Game 1 (A) win = 74-40; 17-7; 5-2
                Game 2 (B) win = 28-12; 5-2; 2-0
                Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

                Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                (A) 14 * 11.26
                (B) 2 * 11.26
                (C)

                REGULAR FOR 06/27/2024

                (A) Arizona -166 to win 1.13U
                (A) Atlanta -189
                to win 1.13U
                (A) Boston -151
                to win 1.13U
                (A) Tampa Bay -161
                to win 1.13U
                (B) Philadelphia RL -106 to win 1.13U

                Filtered

                (A) Arizona -166 to win 1.13U
                (A) Atlanta -189
                to win 1.13U
                (A) Boston -151
                to win 1.13U
                5/2

                No Play
                Comment
                • grecycle99
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-18-09
                  • 3672

                  #183
                  UPDATED for 06/28/2024

                  System(s) record Chase :

                  Regular system: 110-4; Profit: 71.35 units
                  Filtered System: 24-0; Profit: 40.17 units
                  5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

                  Total (3 systems) : 141-4; Profit: 140.52 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                  Records
                  : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                  Game 1 (A) win = 74-40; 17-7; 5-2
                  Game 2 (B) win = 28-12; 5-2; 2-0
                  Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

                  Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                  (A) 4 * 19.45
                  (B) 8 * 19.45
                  (C)

                  REGULAR FOR 06/28/2024

                  (B) Arizona RL +108 to win 1.95U
                  (B) Boston -133 to win 1.95U

                  Filtered

                  (B) Arizona RL +108 to win 1.95U
                  (B) Boston -133 to win 1.95U

                  5/2

                  (A) Arizona RL +108 to win 5U
                  (A) Boston -133 to win 5U
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                  • grecycle99
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-18-09
                    • 3672

                    #184
                    UPDATED for 06/30/2024

                    System(s) record Chase :

                    Regular system: 110-4; Profit: 71.35 units
                    Filtered System: 24-0; Profit: 40.17 units
                    5/2 chase: 7-0; profit: 29 units

                    Total (3 systems) : 141-4; Profit: 140.52 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                    Records
                    : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                    Game 1 (A) win = 74-40; 17-7; 5-2
                    Game 2 (B) win = 28-12; 5-2; 2-0
                    Game 3 (C) win = 8-4; 2-0

                    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                    (A) 4 * 25.94
                    (B) 2 * 25.94
                    (C) 4 * 25.94

                    REGULAR FOR 06/30/2024

                    (C) Boston -105 to win 2.6U

                    Filtered

                    (C) Boston -105 to win 2.6U

                    5/2

                    (B) Boston -105 to win 8.65
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                    • atthehalf
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-13
                      • 4524

                      #185
                      Now I have something to watch for. I have Waldron ranked at #11 and Winckowski dead last today at #30. I don't have anything on this game to be sure based on Wincko's 64% use rate and his 6 at bats vs the Fathers and Waldron's 2 at bats vs the Red Sox. Not enough data for me to get involved as a fantasy stats bettor.

                      Traditional line and side bettors are factoring in also that the Red Sox shouldn't get swept off of their home field. Should be good. I am most definitely rooting for this to work considering how much consideration is on this play.

                      Get their bread grecycle99! Blast away babe!
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                      • atthehalf
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-31-13
                        • 4524

                        #186
                        Oh my goodness! What a good chase move! Good stuff grecycle99! I love seeing guys stick it to the books like that!
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                        • J.M. Disciple
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-16-10
                          • 5148

                          #187
                          Is there a sweep system posted some where? Someone told me about some sweep system going 5-0 yesterday, but we only had Boston.
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                          • grecycle99
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-18-09
                            • 3672

                            #188
                            UPDATED for 07/02/2024

                            System(s) record Chase :

                            Regular system: 116-4; Profit: 72.81 units
                            Filtered System: 27-0; Profit: 43.19 units
                            5/2 chase: 9-0; profit: 36 units

                            Total (3 systems) : 152-4; Profit: 148.47 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                            Records
                            : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                            Game 1 (A) win = 77-43; 18-9; 6-3
                            Game 2 (B) win = 30-13; 6-3; 3-0
                            Game 3 (C) win = 9-4; 3-0

                            Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                            (A) 12 * 17.97
                            (B)
                            (C)

                            REGULAR FOR 07/02/2024

                            (A) Atlanta -182 to win 1.8U
                            (A) Cleveland RL -100
                            to win 1.8U
                            (A) LA Dodgers -185
                            to win 1.8U
                            (A) NY Yankees RL +103
                            to win 1.8U

                            Filtered

                            (A) Cleveland RL -100 to win 1.8U
                            (A) LA Dodgers -185
                            to win 1.8U
                            5/2

                            No Play
                            Comment
                            • grecycle99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-18-09
                              • 3672

                              #189
                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                              Is there a sweep system posted some where? Someone told me about some sweep system going 5-0 yesterday, but we only had Boston.
                              I don't know what sweep system is that. The only one I know is the JM one and its 14-1 on the season now. Could it be like a system where the opposite team had one the 2 first games of the serie and you play a team to not been swept?
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                              • Sund
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 01-18-24
                                • 41

                                #190
                                Looks like Braves moved up to runline ?
                                Comment
                                • Sund
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 01-18-24
                                  • 41

                                  #191
                                  Atlanta Braves -195
                                  Comment
                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-16-10
                                    • 5148

                                    #192
                                    Originally posted by grecycle99
                                    I don't know what sweep system is that. The only one I know is the JM one and its 14-1 on the season now. Could it be like a system where the opposite team had one the 2 first games of the serie and you play a team to not been swept?
                                    Yes. Play the last game of a series for a team not to be swept.
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                                    • RErunSHORTcut
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 04-11-23
                                      • 23

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by Sund
                                      Atlanta Braves -195
                                      braves didn't cash, i had them too, couldn't fade after he posted it haha
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                                      • grecycle99
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-18-09
                                        • 3672

                                        #194
                                        UPDATED for 07/03/2024

                                        System(s) record Chase :

                                        Regular system: 116-4; Profit: 72.81 units
                                        Filtered System: 27-0; Profit: 43.19 units
                                        5/2 chase: 9-0; profit: 36 units

                                        Total (3 systems) : 152-4; Profit: 148.47 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                                        Records
                                        : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                        Game 1 (A) win = 77-43; 18-9; 6-3
                                        Game 2 (B) win = 30-13; 6-3; 3-0
                                        Game 3 (C) win = 9-4; 3-0

                                        Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                        (A) 4 * 26.59
                                        (B) 8 * 26.59
                                        (C)

                                        REGULAR FOR 07/03/2024

                                        (B) Atlanta RL +109 to win 2.668U
                                        (B) Cleveland RL +103
                                        to win 2.66U
                                        (B) NY Yankees -175 to win 2.66U

                                        Filtered

                                        (B) Cleveland RL +103 to win 2.66U

                                        5/2

                                        (A) Cleveland RL +103 to win 5U
                                        Last edited by grecycle99; 07-04-24, 10:18 AM.
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                                        • MexMamba
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 04-03-19
                                          • 115

                                          #195
                                          Dodgers closed 195
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                                          • grecycle99
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-18-09
                                            • 3672

                                            #196
                                            Originally posted by MexMamba
                                            Dodgers closed 195
                                            they won on the 2nd at -179 by a run! they were not a play on the 3rd
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                                            • grecycle99
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-18-09
                                              • 3672

                                              #197
                                              UPDATED for 07/04/2024

                                              System(s) record Chase :

                                              Regular system: 116-4; Profit: 72.81 units
                                              Filtered System: 27-0; Profit: 43.19 units
                                              5/2 chase: 9-0; profit: 36 units

                                              Total (3 systems) : 152-4; Profit: 148.47 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston)

                                              Records
                                              : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                              Game 1 (A) win = 77-43; 18-9; 6-3
                                              Game 2 (B) win = 30-13; 6-3; 3-0
                                              Game 3 (C) win = 9-4; 3-0

                                              Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                              (A) 4 * 35.8
                                              (B) 3 * 35.8
                                              (C) 6 * 35.8

                                              REGULAR FOR 07/04/2024

                                              (C) Cleveland RL -107 to win 3.58
                                              (C) NY Yankees -170 to win 3.58U

                                              Filtered

                                              (C) Cleveland RL -107 to win 3.58U

                                              5/2

                                              (B) Cleveland RL -107 to win 7U
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                                              • J.M. Disciple
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-16-10
                                                • 5148

                                                #198
                                                Series Summary using pinnacle closing lines

                                                Get real-time sports betting odds, spreads, & live lines for all your favorites sports including the NFL, NCAAF, NBA, MLB, NHL, UFC, & more.


                                                July 2nd
                                                CLE (-210 ML) play -1.5 RL (-108) score 7-6 lose
                                                NYY (-206 ML) play -1.5 RL (-104) score 4 to 5 lose
                                                ATL (-187 ML) score 3 to 5 lose
                                                LAD (-179 ML) score 6 to 5 win

                                                July 3rd
                                                CLE (-210) -1.5 RL (+103) score 2 to 8 lose
                                                NYY (-180) score 2 to 3 lose
                                                ATL (-201) -1.5 RL (+105) score 3 to 1 win

                                                July 4th
                                                CLE (-214) -1.5 RL (-108) score 8 to 4 win
                                                NYY (-170) score 4 to 8 lose

                                                I messed up on the dodgers as I had them -1.5 1st game and kept chasing. Hopefully they win today as a non system play ;-)


                                                If anyone is curious how I run my labby lines using 1 strike method. I used the above results and put them into excel with exact lines. I use a 1 strike method, but cap my line at 6#s, so it is not too hard to clear the line.

                                                Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 07-04-24, 05:32 PM.
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                                                • J.M. Disciple
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-16-10
                                                  • 5148

                                                  #199


                                                  comparing the 1 strike method with a six (6) number cap compared to a 2 strike method. During this series if we started with a fresh labby line betting to win 1 unit on A-game wagers.

                                                  1 strike method loses -$122 (6.1 units)
                                                  2 strike method loses -$145 (7.25 units)

                                                  1 strike biggest bet $51.31 (2.56 units)
                                                  2 strike biggest bet $73.58 (3.67 units)

                                                  Comparing the labby lines
                                                  new line: 33.70 x 6 betting to win 1.68 units using 1 strike method
                                                  new line: 28.13 x 8 betting to win 2.81 units using 2 strike method

                                                  Each person can choose their own volatility path, but I wanted to shed some light on the current progressive betting method compared to a newer method I came up with. The downside is it might take 1-2 extra wins to clear a line but the upside is preventing risk of ruin as you can see the next set of series chases is 67% larger bet size. With less risk of ruin it will be easier to scale up in unit size as well.

                                                  Ok I won't flood the forum with any more of my opinions. Just wanted to try and help 1-2 people who read this and are more conservative in their approach.
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                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                    • 5148

                                                    #200
                                                    Lots of action tomorrow for the 5th depending on line movement. Cubs have an early game.
                                                    Chc (-185)
                                                    Nyy (-135)
                                                    Cle
                                                    Atl (-140)
                                                    Min (-155)
                                                    Sea (-142)
                                                    Lad
                                                    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 07-05-24, 03:28 AM.
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                                                    • atthehalf
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-31-13
                                                      • 4524

                                                      #201
                                                      Not that I am meddling-God knows that isn't my intention at all-my question is are there ever any underdogs in play with this system? My max vigorous is and always has been-140 for a favorite so with that it's kind of hard for me to wrap my head around risking so much juice to get a win if it goes over one game for a chase. So say like a team is -185 for the first game and it loses; then in the next game of the chase they are an underdog. Would it be that I should take the underdog on the RL? Would that be considered a move? Don't get me wrong. This system looks to be very profitable and it has produced more units than I have with a traditional format of betting sides and so I kind of wish to know the inner workings of it. It seems like just taking strictly favorite runlines could be the trick to avoiding the high juice?

                                                      Fantasy is much more easier than traditional-if you know your arms and bats. I have tried experimenting with traditional this year instead of strict fantasy and it is trying to say the least.
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                                                      • Sund
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 01-18-24
                                                        • 41

                                                        #202
                                                        I think the line has to be -145 & higher
                                                        Comment
                                                        • Sund
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 01-18-24
                                                          • 41

                                                          #203
                                                          Start of new series looks like Cubs ,guardians, twins & chargers !
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                                                          • Sund
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 01-18-24
                                                            • 41

                                                            #204
                                                            Meant to say Dodgers not chargers
                                                            Comment
                                                            • atthehalf
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-31-13
                                                              • 4524

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by Sund
                                                              I think the line has to be -145 & higher
                                                              Ok got it! So the moves have to be on favorites only
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                                                              • Sund
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 01-18-24
                                                                • 41

                                                                #206
                                                                Yes , favorites.
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                                                                • grecycle99
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-18-09
                                                                  • 3672

                                                                  #207
                                                                  UPDATED for 07/05/2024

                                                                  System(s) record Chase :

                                                                  Regular system: 119-5; Profit: 60.47 units
                                                                  Filtered System: 29-0; Profit: 40.58 units
                                                                  5/2 chase: 10-0; profit: 38 units

                                                                  Total (3 systems) : 158-5; Profit: 139.05 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston, NY Yankees)

                                                                  Records
                                                                  : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                                                  Game 1 (A) win = 78-46; 19-10; 6-4
                                                                  Game 2 (B) win = 31-15; 6-4; 4-0
                                                                  Game 3 (C) win = 10-5; 4-0

                                                                  Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                                                  (A) 8 * 34.57
                                                                  (B) 3 * 34.57
                                                                  (C) 3 * 34.57

                                                                  REGULAR FOR 07/05/2024

                                                                  (A) Chicago Cubs -183 to win 3.46U
                                                                  (A) Cleveland -168
                                                                  to win 3.46U
                                                                  (A) LA Dodgers -189
                                                                  to win 3.46U

                                                                  Watch MIN -142

                                                                  Filtered

                                                                  (A) Chicago Cubs -183 to win 3.46U
                                                                  5/2

                                                                  No Play
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • Sund
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 01-18-24
                                                                    • 41

                                                                    #208
                                                                    At pinnacle the line has moved to twins -145 & Dodgers -195 runline
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                                                                    • grecycle99
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-18-09
                                                                      • 3672

                                                                      #209
                                                                      UPDATED for 07/0/2024

                                                                      System(s) record Chase :6

                                                                      Regular system: 119-5; Profit: 60.47 units
                                                                      Filtered System: 29-0; Profit: 40.58 units
                                                                      5/2 chase: 10-0; profit: 38 units

                                                                      Total (3 systems) : 158-5; Profit: 139.05 units (Series chase lost : Detroit, San Diego, Atlanta, Houston, NY Yankees)

                                                                      Records
                                                                      : (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                                                      Game 1 (A) win = 78-46; 19-10; 6-4
                                                                      Game 2 (B) win = 31-15; 6-4; 4-0
                                                                      Game 3 (C) win = 10-5; 4-0

                                                                      Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                                                      (A) 3 * 43.65
                                                                      (B) 3 * 43.65
                                                                      (C) 3 * 43.65

                                                                      REGULAR FOR 07/06/2024

                                                                      (B) Cleveland -124 to win 4.37U

                                                                      Filtered

                                                                      No Play

                                                                      5/2

                                                                      No Play
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                                                                      • grecycle99
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-18-09
                                                                        • 3672

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by Sund
                                                                        At pinnacle the line has moved to twins -145 & Dodgers -195 runline
                                                                        Dodgers are indeed a RL but MIN closed at -143 so not a play
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