My new baseball system... EZ $...

Vincepcion · 05-22-09, 02:36 AM

LOL you'll think about it? Units won is the only way to fairly determine if this system is a winning one or not, and many won't be convinced about your system if you just post the record. I, and I assume many others, won't be following this system unless units won are known IMO.

Either way I wish you BOL

twister · 05-22-09, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Vincepcion

LOL you'll think about it? Units won is the only way to fairly determine if this system is a winning one or not, and many won't be convinced about your system if you just post the record. I, and I assume many others, won't be following this system unless units won are known IMO.

Either way I wish you BOL

You say it like the OP cares.

Delusions of grandeur.

SportsTerminator · 05-22-09, 11:57 AM

To be honest I don't even know the equivalent for a unit. I'm still really a noob. But my system is 12-3! Does it matter how many units lol. 12-3! 80 percent right! If you think about it a person can go big on one game and make a ton of $$$ and then the rest of the games play small and lose all of them, and still have a lot of $$$. So it's really up to the person on how much they make. But if you have a winning record the chances of you losing money is obviously slim. So you can't really judge the system based on the person you have to judge the system by the record.

If someone is giving you free correct picks what's the problem lol.

Cassidy · 05-22-09, 12:08 PM

Sports, if you trust the system integrity, wouldn't be more wise invest on all of the system plays? To choose just one of them by your own entails to limiting its full possibilities and moving a bit onto the gambling side instead the pure system itself.

I mean, if you dont want to get greedy or not want to play too much juice, why not play, i.e. X/3 on each of the three plays, instead X on just one choosen by your own? Just wondering...

SportsTerminator · 05-22-09, 01:01 PM

That's what I'm going to do Cassidy. It's wiser to play on all the teams and not just one. I mentioned that in an earlier post. Just divide the money on the x amount of teams.

SportsTerminator · 05-22-09, 04:39 PM

No Guranteed picks today but a ton of good games on.

Vincepcion · 05-22-09, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by twister

You say it like the OP cares.

Delusions of grandeur.

well if hes posting his picks, im sure he wants people to follow them and build a good rep, otherwise why post it

SportsTerminator · 05-23-09, 11:26 AM

My Play for today according to my system (only 1 gurantee today) It's an early 1:10 P.M. game...

5/23

Moneyline

St. Louis Cardinals -164
(K LOHSE -R/L HOCHEVAR-R)

twister · 05-23-09, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Vincepcion

well if hes posting his picks, im sure he wants people to follow them and build a good rep, otherwise why post it

If somebody is posting to "build a good rep", I'd be more concerned with their lack of self-esteem that they need strangers on the internet to validate them. Or, that they are looking to turn tout/scamdicapper. Either way, a bit sad.

More generally though, I would assume people post their picks/system plays to discuss the merit of their selections.

SportsTerminator · 05-23-09, 05:24 PM

You can trail or fade me but I'm just here to make m$ney.
And I cashed in on my system once again, 13-3 EZ $.
Can't wait until tomorrow lol...

Skalatharx · 05-23-09, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by SportsTerminator

My Play for today according to my system (only 1 gurantee today) It's an early 1:10 P.M. game...

5/23

Moneyline

St. Louis Cardinals -164
(K LOHSE -R/L HOCHEVAR-R)

A Fine Pick

And a nice win

hels · 05-23-09, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by twister

If somebody is posting to "build a good rep", I'd be more concerned with their lack of self-esteem that they need strangers on the internet to validate them. Or, that they are looking to turn tout/scamdicapper. Either way, a bit sad.

More generally though, I would assume people post their picks/system plays to discuss the merit of their selections.

I see where you're coming from with the self-esteem issue, but you must understand that there are many good cappers on this board and a good capper has friends who are also good and they form their PC. The only way to get into one of these PC's is to prove your worth. Your comment about self-esteem could go towards to CK or Dex, but no one criticizes their public posting of games/picks.

To be honest, life can be boring at times, and sometimes it's enjoyable to write about something you like and have people read about it and give their props when props are due. I'll openly admit that I will start trailing terminator. He appears to be good. I know that 16 games isn't enough to 100% assure his system, but he's running hot, so let's hope the system is solid gold.

Slanina · 05-24-09, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by SportsTerminator

To be honest I don't even know the equivalent for a unit. I'm still really a noob. But my system is 12-3! Does it matter how many units lol. 12-3! 80 percent right! If you think about it a person can go big on one game and make a ton of $$$ and then the rest of the games play small and lose all of them, and still have a lot of $$$. So it's really up to the person on how much they make. But if you have a winning record the chances of you losing money is obviously slim. So you can't really judge the system based on the person you have to judge the system by the record.

If someone is giving you free correct picks what's the problem lol.

1 unit is the equivalent to 1% of your bankroll. So if you have 1K as a bankroll and bet 1 unit then you are risking $10. 5 unit bet would be $50. The reason it was suggested to keep track of unit total was because of a 20-8 record for example. But with high juices like the picks so far would turn that 20-8 record into 20 wins and 12-15 losses. Far from the flat 20-8 record, which makes it appear you are up a lot more than you actually are. However, since you are posting the lines with your picks it wouldn't be incredibly hard to find out your true profit.

For example, lets say you are betting to win $100 each game. Red sox at -164. You win the game you are at $100. But if you lose you are down $164. Therefore, you would have to win your next game and be only up 36 bucks. Which translates to mere +.36 units despite your record of 2-1. This is why units are so important when it comes to others watching your plays. Records usually mean nothing in gambling. It's the units A.K.A. profits.

The only people that can truly use win percentages and overall records are people who take O/U's. Because they usually hover between -105 and -115. Definitely not people who take the ML's.

SportsTerminator · 05-24-09, 11:26 AM

According to my system these 3 should win. But I will only be playing on one. And play on the Yankees at your own risk. I wouldn't recommend it. You never know what to expect with them like I said before. But they seem to be good now so idk. Two of the three games are early games.

5/24

Moneyline:

Detroit Tigers

New York Yankees

Seattle Mariners

But my play for today is just Detroit. I chose Detroit from the 3 because everything is in their favor... the Pitching stats....the public...But again all 3 should hit. I'll stick to 1 game...

5/24

Moneyline

Detroit Tigers -163
(D WILLIS -L/J HAMMEL -R)

Slanina · 05-24-09, 11:39 PM

Is this really a system? Because you are capping the games and just one of the picks is a bet. Which defeats the meaning of a system. A system tells you what to play, there is no handicapping involved only filters. Plus your picks are ridiculously high favorites. Doesn't seem like a system, but if it truly is a system I dont see it having a good success rate per month.

Note: Filter is not another word for capping.

Slanina · 05-24-09, 11:54 PM

Ok, I had to go back and figure out your unit total from your posted plays because I was becoming curious to see what you are truly up. It wasn't the easiest thing with so many posts stating there are 4 plays but only 1 will be played. Despite your claimed "system record" it is far from your actual play record. From 5/12(day this thread was created) the games you actually bet on are 4-2. The others you left out for various reasons. So in no way am I going to count those. Because you can't have it both ways.

Anyways, you are 4-2 and +.37 units. These are you true numbers. All the other records and percentages mean nothing.

SportsTerminator · 05-25-09, 01:35 PM

1-1 Yesterday not counting the Yanks. Only 2 Guranteed picks today. I will only be playing on 1 today, maybe both. I'll post my final pick in a few. 1 Win is enough for me lol, I'm not greedy.

5/25

Moneyline:

Arizona D-Backs

New York Mets

SportsTerminator · 05-25-09, 03:28 PM

I'm sorry only 1 gurantee play. Data has changed... That 1 gurantee is the Arizona D-Backs. If I would have knew this earlier I would have booked on Arizona. I was planning on playing on the Mets so now I'll just be playing on the NBA Denver Nuggets today.

Edited...Arizona up 2-0 with 2 men on base... I should have booked Arizona instead of planning on booking on the Mets.

Skalatharx · 05-25-09, 04:07 PM

I'm on mets

ebbearsfb1 · 05-25-09, 04:16 PM

how do you know if its a gurantee play earlier in the day then later its not any more?

SportsTerminator · 05-25-09, 04:50 PM

I am kicking my self for not trusting my system lol. My system guranteed an Arizona win. But I only wanted to play on one and that one being the Mets. And chosing one I liked the Mets over Arizona. The Mets squaring off against the sorry Nats. And the Mets being a high offensive team. Arizona going up against a team that won 9 straight. And over 90 percent of the public being on the Mets. I was going to book on the Mets. But the data has changed for the Mets so today nothing lol. I won't even look at the public or records and etc. I'll just trust my system which is 14-4 (77.7% Right) (Not counting the Yanks). But you learn something everyday. Sometimes the data will change it's rare but happens. But one or two hours before the game the data is most likely final. It's kind of hard to explain lol. But after Arizona's win my system will be 15-4 (78.9% Right). I'm glad my new system is working out, now I don't have to play on the WNBA when the NBA season is over. I'll play on the MLB until football season or keep playing. Before my new system I started capping games based on my own knowledge. I started off pretty good about 4-2 but then 5-6 or something like that. So I came up with a new method...

Like I said before I'm just here to make money you can trail or fade my system. If my system is not working I'll shutdown my system lol. But it has been so I'm going to keep on riding it lol. I just need to decide on what to do when their are multiple guranteed picks. Play on one or play on all lol...

Edited... 7-1 Arizona

And thanks Slanina for the unit explanation.

Vincepcion · 05-25-09, 05:43 PM

Why didnt you count the Yanks in the record?

Razz_Donkey · 05-25-09, 06:00 PM

AZ just took an interesting turn. 9-7 SD ahead. Yikes.

SportsTerminator · 05-25-09, 06:24 PM

With the the Yanks sometimes they don't play to their potential and they choke. But lately since A-Rod coming back they have been doing really well. But still the Yanks are still the Yanks they can be a choking team. Fail to get the complete job done. Joe Torre can vouch for this lol...

But I'm stunned, Arizona gives up 5 in the 8th, 1 in the 9th, and 2 in the 10th. 8 unanswered runs, just wow! Wow! Now I know a game is never over until it's over. 10 Straight wins for San Diego, congrats I think. But my system was Wrong, if this keeps up you won't see me on this baseball forum anymore. I'll be officially retired from baseball betting...

Vincepcion · 05-25-09, 07:10 PM

Wow so you lost with the Yanks but didnt record them as a loss because "they dont play to their potential and they choke"?

I hope your system wins money in the end but you should be honest with yourself, and the people who are tailing

Axis · 05-25-09, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Vincepcion

Wow so you lost with the Yanks but didnt record them as a loss because "they dont play to their potential and they choke"?

I hope your system wins money in the end but you should be honest with yourself, and the people who are tailing

He explained earlier in the thread he wouldn't be counting any games he played on the yanks, whether it was a win or loss.

Vincepcion · 05-25-09, 09:40 PM

Fair enough, I missed that. Carry on and much success.

Though I think if you type Yankees as one of your plays, you should roll with it. BOL

Slanina · 05-26-09, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by ebbearsfb1

how do you know if its a gurantee play earlier in the day then later its not any more?

Because it seems he's using line influences by the public throughout the day. At 2pm it would be a guarantee and at 3pm it wouldn't be. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that would answer this question.

SportsTerminator · 05-26-09, 03:44 PM

Slanina I'm not using public influences throughout the day.
According to my system these 2 should win. But I will only be playing on one. And this is final lol...

5/26

Moneyline:

Los Angeles Angels

Kansas City Royals

But my play for today is just the Los Angeles Angels.

5/26

Moneyline

Los Angeles Angels -185
(J Saunders-L / B Colon-R)

SportsTerminator · 05-27-09, 01:50 PM

That's I'm done for good with baseball betting!

My system is like 50 percent. And 50 percent is not good enough. So much success to all on this forum. I'm sticking with where I'm good at basketball and football. The Mets do look good tonight though lol...

ebbearsfb1 · 05-27-09, 02:01 PM

idon't get it

Skalatharx · 05-27-09, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by SportsTerminator

That's I'm done for good with baseball betting!

My system is like 50 percent. And 50 percent is not good enough. So much success to all on this forum. I'm sticking with where I'm good at basketball and football. The Mets do look good tonight though lol...

Im sure with a few tweaking here and there you could get it above 50%

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Yes Mets are hot rite now, I have had to good days with them, im going for the sweep.

BOL ST

Vincepcion · 05-27-09, 05:40 PM

You started at 80%, lose a few games and are at 50%...mayeb you are just on a bad run, I'd keep it going for a little while and see if you can regain the success - just a suggestion. If you dont want to play it anymore, then BOL in other sports...but its a system, and you created it so I dont suggest you give up so easily.

ziptoe · 05-27-09, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by SportsTerminator

That's I'm done for good with baseball betting!

My system is like 50 percent. And 50 percent is not good enough. So much success to all on this forum. I'm sticking with where I'm good at basketball and football. The Mets do look good tonight though lol...

so if your done with the "system", can you explain it to us? im just curious to know how you were making your picks. Maybe a little "tweeking" would improve it??