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  • SoonerGreg
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-16-08
    • 825

    #1
    Manny tested positive - Out 50 games starting today
    Holy crap! Good thing they built quite a lead in the West.
  • MexicanStallion
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-08-08
    • 20429

    #2
    Unreal
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    • SoonerGreg
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-16-08
      • 825

      #3
      ESPN First Take just said he was one of the 104 reported played that tested positive for some sort of performance enhancing drug.
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      • thegenix
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-14-08
        • 339

        #4
        Take the Nats today?
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        • DFoster
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-02-09
          • 712

          #5
          What an idiot
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          • xmrblueduckyx
            SBR Sharp
            • 03-11-09
            • 300

            #6
            we all knew this day was coming....

            NATS TONIGHT! BIG!
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            • Pick'nParlays
              SBR MVP
              • 02-22-08
              • 3134

              #7
              MANNY is a idiot
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              • SoonerGreg
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-16-08
                • 825

                #8
                Scott Boras said it was a prescribed drug from a doctor.
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                • Wilforth
                  Restricted User
                  • 05-10-08
                  • 16309

                  #9
                  They should allow them all to take drugs so we can be cashing Overs
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                  • alukk
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-29-09
                    • 1544

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wilforth
                    They should allow them all to take drugs so we can be cashing Overs
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                    • Smith
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 04-07-09
                      • 182

                      #11
                      "Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was OK to give me," Ramirez said. "Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now.
                      "I do want to say one other thing; I've taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons. I want to apologize to [Dodgers owner Frank] McCourt, Mrs. McCourt, [manager Joe] Torre, my teammates, the Dodger organization, and to the Dodger fans. LA is a special place to me and I know everybody is disappointed. So am I. I'm sorry about this whole situation."

                      Yeah, but you currently moved to Cali where marijuana is legal with a prescription.....just saying, sounds like he went and got a prescription and is too dumb to understand that even with a prescription it is still illegal for mlb players! Nobody ever said anything about you taking steroids, but you know you fall in the profile of a Tricky Ricky fan!
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                      • theplagy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-21-09
                        • 1915

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wilforth
                        They should allow them all to take drugs so we can be cashing Overs
                        If they all do drugs the over will go up as well lol
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                        • Rixsaw
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-23-08
                          • 4532

                          #13
                          If they gonna do drug test, they should test EVERYONE. It's not like the league can't afford it. I would bet anything that over 50% of them will test positive. The lesson to learn is if you gonna do PED, lay low and don't draw attention to yourself.
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                          • tacomax
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 9619

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SoonerGreg
                            Scott Boras said it was a prescribed drug from a doctor.
                            Scott Boras also said that there were a number of teams interested in signing Manny this season.
                            Originally posted by pags11
                            SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                            Originally posted by BuddyBear
                            I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                            Originally posted by curious
                            taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                            • Dark Horse
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-14-05
                              • 13764

                              #15
                              hCG is even more telling than steroids, because it indicates long term steroid use:

                              Manny Ramirez isn't the first baseball player linked to the drug hCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin.

                              Former All-Star and Oakland A's bash brother Jose Canseco was detained by immigration officials at the San Diego border last year as he tried to bring the fertility drug in from Mexico. Two other former big leaguers, Jay Gibbons and David Bell, reportedly attempted to purchase it online from pharmacies that came under investigation.

                              And Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse attendant and later a major steroid supplier to pro ballplayers, acknowledges he used hCG in his steroid-cycling days.

                              The drug was added to Major League Baseball's banned list last year. In late 2007, when Gibbons' name surfaced in connection with purchases made from Signature Pharmacy in Florida between October 2003 and July 2005, hCG wasn't outlawed by MLB. (Gibbons, then with the Orioles, also reportedly ordered synthetic HGH and testosterone, along with hCG.) Nor was hCG banned when Bell reportedly purchased six packages of it from Applied Pharmacy in Alabama while he was playing for the Phillies in April 2005.

                              According to the Mitchell report on performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, Bell said he had received a prescription for hCG to treat "a medical condition" that he refused to identify. In a statement issued Thursday, Ramirez, too, said he had been given hCG by a physician "for a personal health issue" that he did not identify.

                              It is not an anabolic steroid but rather a fertility drug that is widely considered to be part of the chemical enhancement game played by athletes. The hormone is produced naturally by women during pregnancy and often is used by steroid users to reboot their body's natural testosterone production coming off a steroid cycle. It is also associated in the sports and the bodybuilding communities with serious and prolonged steroid use.

                              "I have used hCG numerous times," Radomski told ESPN.com. "It works great. You feel great. After you come off a [steroid] cycle, your body doesn't crash. It turns your [testosterone] production back on. It gives you more energy. It makes you feel like you're still on a cycle.

                              "Typically, people who use hCG have abused drugs. Their bodies have shut down. A perfect example is Canseco. He went across the border to get it. He admitted that he abused his body. People who stay on long [steroid] cycles would have to take it. People who go on short cycles or don't use [steroids] that much can get away without having to use hCG."

                              While investigating recent cases of online pharmacies that sell steroids, authorities have found that individuals, particularly athletes and bodybuilders, are ordering hCG along with steroids. hCG normally is injected and is thought to be detectable in drug testing.

                              "You order X cycles of anabolic steroids, and you're going to order your hCG for when you take time off [from using steroids]," said Travis Tygart, chief executive officer of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. "From a layman's perspective, it jump-starts your own body's testosterone production. That begs the question: Why do you jump-start it? Well, you need to jump-start it if you are coming off a steroid cycle. Because when you use synthetic steroids, that shuts your body's own natural production of testosterone off. So when you stop using the synthetic steroids, you need something to help restart your own body's production, which is when hCG is typically used."

                              In a statement issued Thursday, Ramirez said the substance he tested positive for was prescribed by his physician, although it is generally thought that there are few legitimate medical uses for hCG by an otherwise healthy male pro athlete.

                              "We don't know anything about the case other than what is in the press," Tygart acknowledged. "But I think it is highly unlikely an otherwise healthy athlete would need hCG for a legitimate medical purpose. If this is true, and I don't know that it is, it is frankly a failure on his agent [Scott Boras] and his union's part in not better educating him that there is a process where you can obtain permission to use legitimate medications. And that is flabbergasting to me.

                              "To my knowledge, there are only a couple rare disorders, [one being] pituitary gland disorder, that are legitimate reasons to be using hCG for an otherwise healthy male.''

                              ESPN.com reported later Thursday that baseball's drug testing revealed that Ramirez had an elevated level of testosterone from an artificial source in his body, although that is not the reason for the 50-game suspension announced Thursday. The suspension was hooked to baseball's documentation of Ramirez's use of hCG.

                              Mike Fish is an investigative reporter for ESPN.com. He can be reached at michaeljfish@gmail.com.
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