What stats do you consider to be luck in MLB?

[TPowell]

In football, you have turnovers and huge plays like blocked FG returns/kickoff returns or whatever.

In basketball, you have shooting in general really, more specifically 3 point shooting.

When you look at a box score, what do you look at? My first thought would be runners left on base, but that was all I could really come up. Maybe a reliever giving up a ton of runs or something?

[TPowell]

anyone?

[TPowell]

geez, nobody? Weird forum

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I think BaBip is sort of designed to account for luck in hitting in general. Though its no hard and fast.

In a sport where you hit a ball coming 95MPH with a round wooden stick, theres going to be a ton of luck involved in virtually all stats.

[HardCore]

believe it or not home runs are the luck make or breakers in MLB most totals are won and lost by the swing of a bat

[TPowell]

believe it or not home runs are the luck make or breakers in MLB most totals are won and lost by the swing of a bat

true but power is a tangible skill to me. BABIP is a good one though.

[RavensFan2k3]

Maybe not luck, but things you cant control. The freakin bullpen. Nothing is worse than winning the entire game then the bullpen giving up the lead

[TPowell]

true, just wondering what you can look at with a slumping team and say "maybe they were just unlucky". I use this quite a lot in other sports to find undervalued teams/plays

[RavensFan2k3]

Maybe a team that always good contact on the ball(rarely strikes out) but seems to always hit the ball right to a defender

[teecee]

Maybe a team that always good contact on the ball(rarely strikes out) but seems to always hit the ball right to a defender

Sounds like babip.

[RavensFan2k3]

Sounds like babip.

Oh ok, im not familiar with all the baseball terminology

Its funny, ive played sports my entire life, even collegiate, but baseball is the only one I played that I literally didn't know all the rules or terminology haha

[TPowell]

Baseball is amazing with all of the stats to me. Of course I can look at Ken Pom and things like that and be right at home. Probably just my lack of baseball experience, stats wise

[PerfectGrape]

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pitching/hrs/

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pitching/babip/

[PerfectGrape]

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/luck/

[TPowell]

bravo Grape, thanks a lot

[Big Bear]

wins and losses as a starting pitcher.

not saying you will win very many games without talent but often times a pitcher may pitch really well but not accumulate alot of wins bc of poor run support and a bad bullpen.

[mlb]

Yep - So many wins and loses are determined by things out of your control. I mean look at Samardz for the first 2/3 of the season - couldn't buy a win and was lights out.