BETdsi playing dirty pool

[arpeggiomeister]

I placed a bet last night that I call a semi-arbitrage. I place a
bet on the favorite on the run line and on the underdog one the money
line. The only way to lose the bet is if the favored team wins by
one run... ...or so I thought.





This is the bet I placed.

NYY +128	$254.00
BAL -1.5 +135	$246.43 ($78.69)

The game was delayed and cut short in the 5^th inning.
BAL won. BETdsi counted the loss on NYY but claimed “no action”
on the winning bet on BAL. That is pretty frikkin dirty. If my bet
on BAL is “no action” then the bet on NYY should be “no action”
as well. If NYY counts as a loss then BAL should count as a win.

ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401068 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 254.00 - To Win: 325.12 ) LOSE 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [927] NY YANKEES +128( ACTION ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) LOSE $-254.00 $246.56
ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401077 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 246.43 - To Win: 332.68 ) NO BET 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [928] BAL ORIOLES -1.5 +135( C WHITLEY -R / K GAUSMAN -R ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) N/A SHORT $0.00 $246.56

[RavensFan2k3]

I think if you were to play ML on Baltimore it would be declared a winner, but RLs are no action. Also if you were on NYY +1.5, it would have been no action.

[arpeggiomeister]

Here is what these fucktards had to say.Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Frank'
Frank: Welcome to our Live Chat Department. My name is Frank. How may I be of assistance?
Frank: Hello Michael!
xx137728: We have a problem
xx137728: I placed a bet last night that I call a semi-arbitrage. I place a bet on the favorite on the run line and on the underdog one the money line. The only way to lose the bet is if the favored team wins by one run... ...or so I thought. This is the bet I placed. NYY +128 $254.00 BAL -1.5 +135 $246.43 ($78.69) The game was delayed and cut short in the 5th inning. BAL won. BETdsi counted the loss on NYY but claimed “no action” on the winning bet on BAL. That is pretty frikkin dirty. If my bet on BAL is “no action” then the bet on NYY should be “no action” as well. If NYY counts as a loss then BAL should count as a win. ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401068 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 254.00 - To Win: 325.12 ) LOSE 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [927] NY YANKEES +128( ACTION ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) LOSE $-254.00 $246.56 ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401077 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 246.43 - To Win: 332.68 ) NO BET 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [928] BAL ORIOLES -1.5 +135( C WHITLEY -R / K GAUSMAN -R ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) N/A SHORT $0.00 $246.56
Frank: You have contacted the right place!
Frank: For security reasons, will you please confirm your password?

Frank: Thank you! I appreciate it…
Frank: I apologize, the bet was cancelled due to they did not complete the full 5 innings, therefore as per the rules the bet is cancelled and the risk amount is returned..
Frank: Only moneylines are graded is home is leading after 4 1/2 innings..
xx137728: then the risk amount should also be returned on the bet on NYY. you can't have it both ways.
Frank: I apologize, however only moneylines are graded..
xx137728: I should inform you that I have started a thread on SBR letting everyone know about how you handle this. I further plan on putting this on youtube.

[Optional]

Baseball General Rules
Official Game Time

Winners and Losers are official after 5 innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is called or suspended, the score after the last full inning determines the winner. If the home team scores to tie - or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning and the inning is not completed, the score at the time the game is called determines the winner. Monies will be refunded if the home team ties the game and it is then suspended. Events will not carry over to the following day (unless otherwise specified). BETDSI does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc. for betting purposes.


When betting on the total runs (over/under) the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is ahead) to have action. Wagers on total runs will be refunded if a pitcher change occurs prior to both listed pitchers throwing at least one pitch. Rules for the run line wagers are the same as those for baseball totals.


Game must be played on scheduled date and site.

**During the MLB Playoffs, games all wagers will have action until the game is played to completion, regardless of their duration or the day on which they end.**

[Optional]

You should remove your account password from that chat arpeggiomeister... and change it immediately.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I think if you were to play ML on Baltimore it would be declared a winner, but RLs are no action. Also if you were on NYY +1.5, it would have been no action.

exactly..OP should read the rules and quit crying.

I feel sorry for new mod Optional..he has to sift through all the crying in this sub forum when 95% of the time the rules are right there for them to see.

[stevenash]

The straight bet (money line) is indeed a loser.

Yankees got 5 innings of at bats, a game is official after 4 1/2 complete innings if the away team is losing after their turn in the fifth, it count.

Run lines are a push, no action, call it what you want, it goes as a no go.
A run line wager must go the full nine (8.5 if the away team gets their full turn in the ninth)

You have the rain to blame, not DSI, and most of all, you have yourself to blame, not DSI.
You should know the run line rules before you make the wager, you seem to know what semi-arbitrage means, you should damn well know what the rules of the run line is then.

DSI and 5Dimes are as good as books as it gets, 5D with Tony may be gruff, I get that, but he won't stiff you, as far as DSI goes, their CS is top notch, to call them fucktards, and accuse them of dirty pool is classless, know what you are doing before you do it, and know what you are talking about before you call their CS and have a hissy fit.

You sound like a 5 year old whose toy was taken away, "wah, wah, wah, I am going to tell on you at SBR"

For several reasons, you look like a total idiot here.

Now man up little boy, log into DSI, and go to chat, apolgize for your actions, and post that here.
They graded everything correctly, did all the right things, you did not.
Show me something.

[stevenash]

You should remove your account password from that chat arpeggiomeister... and change it immediately.

No, he deserves what the gets.
Let it be.

p.s. you are doing a good job Opt

[R.P. McMurphy]

Being a member of sbr since '08 kind of shocked you don't know these rules unless you are just now betting bases?!? Same applies to bets on totals as rl's fyi when a gm has been called.

[redtagboys]

Both games should be a wash.. that's how it works for me

[BeanTownClown88]

Here is what these fucktards had to say.Please wait for a site operator to respond.
You are now chatting with 'Frank'
Frank: Welcome to our Live Chat Department. My name is Frank. How may I be of assistance?
Frank: Hello Michael!
xx137728: We have a problem
xx137728: I placed a bet last night that I call a semi-arbitrage. I place a bet on the favorite on the run line and on the underdog one the money line. The only way to lose the bet is if the favored team wins by one run... ...or so I thought. This is the bet I placed. NYY +128 $254.00 BAL -1.5 +135 $246.43 ($78.69) The game was delayed and cut short in the 5th inning. BAL won. BETdsi counted the loss on NYY but claimed “no action” on the winning bet on BAL. That is pretty frikkin dirty. If my bet on BAL is “no action” then the bet on NYY should be “no action” as well. If NYY counts as a loss then BAL should count as a win. ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401068 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 254.00 - To Win: 325.12 ) LOSE 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [927] NY YANKEES +128( ACTION ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) LOSE $-254.00 $246.56 ONLINE 07/13/2014 04:47 PM [ # 178401077 ] STRAIGHT BET ( Risking: 246.43 - To Win: 332.68 ) NO BET 07/13/2014 05:15 PM MLB [928] BAL ORIOLES -1.5 +135( C WHITLEY -R / K GAUSMAN -R ) Score: NY YANKEES(1) - BAL ORIOLES(3) N/A SHORT $0.00 $246.56
Frank: You have contacted the right place!
Frank: For security reasons, will you please confirm your password?

Frank: Thank you! I appreciate it…
Frank: I apologize, the bet was cancelled due to they did not complete the full 5 innings, therefore as per the rules the bet is cancelled and the risk amount is returned..
Frank: Only moneylines are graded is home is leading after 4 1/2 innings..
xx137728: then the risk amount should also be returned on the bet on NYY. you can't have it both ways.
Frank: I apologize, however only moneylines are graded..
xx137728: I should inform you that I have started a thread on SBR letting everyone know about how you handle this. I further plan on putting this on youtube.

I had Orioles -1 and they gave me a push so I disputed the same way on 5dimes. Said only ML bets get graded as wins or losses when games are cut short. It's just the rules you will get them next time.

Sucks to approach dead week with a bad taste in your mouth though

[stevenash]

From the DSI site

BaseballBaseball General Rules
Official Game Time

Winners and Losers are official after 5 innings of play unless the home team is leading after 4½ innings. If a game is called or suspended, the score after the last full inning determines the winner. If the home team scores to tie - or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning and the inning is not completed, the score at the time the game is called determines the winner. Monies will be refunded if the home team ties the game and it is then suspended. Events will not carry over to the following day (unless otherwise specified). BETDSI does not recognize suspended games, protests, overturned decisions, etc. for betting purposes.
When betting on the total runs (over/under) the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is ahead) to have action. Wagers on total runs will be refunded if a pitcher change occurs prior to both listed pitchers throwing at least one pitch. Rules for the run line wagers are the same as those for baseball totals.
Game must be played on scheduled date and site.

**During the MLB Playoffs, games all wagers will have action until the game is played to completion, regardless of their duration or the day on which they end.**

[stevenash]

Both games should be a wash.. that's how it works for me

Where?
What site grades a rain shortened game after 5 innings a push?

[BarstoolProphet]

Arp. I do feel your pain. But the rules are as they are. Just do as you have been, take that $250 and get 5 in a row and this will be in the rear view mirror.

As for name calling on here referring to him as a child. Really? We all have been there it sucks.

Now, just think had it been the other way around, and NY was leading and you won that bet and the runline bet was returned. Would you have been "praising" them on what a great book they are. Bad beat, move on and get them on the next one. But there is no dirty pool here. The rules are clear. Good Luck Arp.

[stevenash]

As for name calling on here referring to him as a child. Really? We all have been there it sucks.

Yes, the actions and reactions from the OP were childish.
'Child' is spot on accurate, and appropriate, the OP's actions were childish.

When I was working for an 'office' a client made a 'total bases' prop bet once with us.
over/under 3 total bases for Juan Gonzalez if memory serves me right.
Juan-Gon had 2 singles and a walk that game, come settlement day on Tuesday he was 50 dollars short, he though walks counted for total bases, we explained it to him, even told him to look up the definitiion, he did, and instead of going off, he took it like a man, said something to the effect "my bad, I should have known that" paid the 50, and we bought him a shot and a beer.

[MickeyMan]

Wow well thanks for the laugh OP

[asdf21]

Feel sorry for your lost bet but those are the rules, all books I know would have graded it that way. The reason is that RL bettors are at a disadvantage if the game is called early, this is why it's no action. Industry standard I'd say.

[NunyaBidness]

Here is what these fucktards had to say.Please wait for a site operator to respond.

xx137728: I placed a bet last night that I call a semi-arbitrage. I place a bet on the favorite on the run line and on the underdog one the money line. The only way to lose the bet is if the favored team wins by one run.

Love that you:

1) Think you've found an edge on them with your "semi-arbitrage" that doesn't work.
and
2) Tell them about it anyway.

[RavensFan2k3]

Love that you:

1) Think you've found an edge on them with your "semi-arbitrage" that doesn't work.
and
2) Tell them about it anyway.

lmao

[horja1]

you should have at least red the rules after they told you their reasoning

[MickeyMan]

Love that you:

1) Think you've found an edge on them with your "semi-arbitrage" that doesn't work.
and
2) Tell them about it anyway.

3) post your account password for everyone to see on a gambling forum

[stevenash]

3) post your account password for everyone to see on a gambling forum

OP needs to have his wagering privledges revoked.
Bet ya he doesn't chat up DSI and say "my bad, sorry"

[arpeggiomeister]

I can admit when I make a mistake. You have informed me that
those are the rules, so be it. That being said, how does it look?
It is pretty convenient that the loser counts but the bet that would
have been a winner is “no action”. To anyone who is unaware of
this rule it looks highly suspicious.





I have a very healthy distrust of the sportsbooks. I believe they
will screw you over the first chance they get. I believe it was
www.sportsbook.com that
would refuse to pay you if you got over $20,000. The BETUS/John
Morrison scandal was a blatant scam. They were shading the lines for
all Sports Betting Champ Customers and then John Morrison was getting
paid affiliate commisions on the losses. It is absolutely amazing to
me that BETUS is still in business after that. Now the way it looked
from where I was standing is that BETdsi was up to similar shit. If
I catch anyone pulling that kind of crap I will call them out on it.
You guys tell me that those rules are clear. I can accept that.





As for the name calling and other accusations I will respond
directly. I was accused of being childish. First we will take a
look at my motivations for making this post and then look at the
motivations of those who accuse me of being childish and you will see
who the real children are!!!





I got burned on a bet that, to my knowledge at the time, should
have won. It is not the amount of money I lost that I am upset
about, it is the principle of it. My purpose in coming here and
posting this is to keep others from getting burned in a similar
fashion. Mistake or no mistake, my motivations are honorable. If
this post keeps even just one person from losing money then I have
done something worthwhile. If a sportsbook screws you over these
forums are the only form of recourse we have. You can not take them
to court. The only thing you can do is let others know what they
have done and make them pay for it in the form of lost business.





As for the motivations of those people calling me childish, as
well as the other accompanying insults, what are your motivations?
Are your intentions honorable? Not in the slightest. There is an
over-abundance of people on this site that get their rocks off by
rubbing other peoples' noses in the dirt. “Oh you have been a
member since '08 and you didn't know that. You are an idiot.
Hahahahahaha” “He deserves what he gets”. ...and you are
calling me childish. Really???? You are stroking your own egos,
nothing more. How childish is that?





As far as my account is concerned, while I acted rashly I am not
overly concerned. I can change my password, not a big deal. If
someone does try to clean it out they will not get very much. As I
stated before, it is not the money but the principle that motivated
me. I was more concerned with other people getting burned.





Stevenash, I have no problem at all sending Betdsi an apology. I
do not “cry” about getting beat as long as it is above board.
This looked highly suspicious to me and I took immediate action. I
made a mistake. So be it. Your commentary was completely out of
line, arrogant, and self-serving. You made the comment that I would
not hit them up and apologize. Well I bet you can not man up and
admit that you are out of line. You should have your posting
privileges on this site revoked.